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Title: DTD - My first visit.. (long)
Post by: The Camel on May 30, 2009, 11:31:37 AM
So, with a £50k overlay just too good to miss I finally got my arse into gear and made the drive to Nottingham to visit DT (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/)D (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/) for their WSOP tournament.

Nottingham is an awkward distance from me, just too far to drive there and back in day, but so close it feels like a waste of money to stay in a hotel.

Rather than a blow by blow trip report, I would like to briefly outline the positives and the negatives of the tournament and the venue from my point of view..

POSITIVES:

Staff. The most important feature of any service industry business is the staff. And the staff at DT (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/)D (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/) were just fantastic. I have never see so many smiles. The staff seem very happy to be working there and this shows by their eagerness to help and positive attitude. Kudos must go to the management for keeping them so happy.

Dealers: Flawless. Probably had 5 dealers in my (short) time in the tournament. Each one was excellent. Not sure if they were trained by DT (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/)D (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/) or poached from other venues, but they were way better than most other places I have played. Kept the games running smoothly and concentrated well (My petpeeve about some dealers is they don't concentrate well enough and that's why mistakes occur). I would put the general level of dealing on a par with the Vic. Which means they are equal best in Britain.

Floor: There was one small dispute at my table, which the dealer dealt with perfectly, calling the floor at exactly the right moment before tempers flared. The floor made the correct decision and (just as importantly) explained the decision to the aggreived party perfectly.

Management: A bit unfair for me to judge the management, because the 2 Simon's were friends long before DT (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/)D (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/) was even thought of. But, put simply they seemed to be as excellent a job as I would have expected.

Valets: I have played poker all over the world and I have never seen so many valets at one venue. The last tournament I played was the €10,000 + 600 event at Monte Carlo. I wanted a bottle of water. I had to ask the dealer twice and the floor 3 times (!!!!) to get a waitress and when one finally arrived it took 20 minutes for her to get my water and she never gave me any change from a 20 for a 6 Euro bottle. No such problems at DT (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/)D (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/). The valets were swarming around eagerto help and fast and efficient. And when I tipped one £2.50 after she brought me a burger and chips she must have thanked me 5 times!

Facilities: A well stocked and very pleasant bar area, That is enough facilities for me! Seriously, the poker player was very well catered for when not playing.

Tournament: I remember there was a big hoohar about 5 years ago. The Grosvenor Wallsall had a tournament called the "Quarter Million" http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/event.php?a=r&n=1258. It was a £2,500 event and they guaranteed 1/4 million. When they realised they weren't going to get 100 players, they whipped off the guarantee as quick as you like. DT (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/)D (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/) makes a similar guarantee and they are man enough to swallow the loss. Hat's off. The structure was just amazing. I do think as there was such a small field playing 5 levels on day 1 was unneccessary. 4 would have been plenty. But that's a small thing. For a venue to attempt to stage such an ambitious event was very impressive. To go through with it and run it so well was fantastic. They really deserved to get at least 250 runners. For sure I will be playing the other 2 legs.

Playing: The plasma screens told you everything you needed to know and were kept up to date far better than those at the UKPT's. The tables were spacious and there was room to move about. The chips and the cards were of the highest quality.

Cash games. I didn't play any cash games, so it would be unfair for me to comment. Altho I will say I saw an old friend who I hadn't seen in 5+ years and he's a cash game grinder. He is currently in the process of moving to Nottingham, so I think it's safe to assume rthe games are blinding!


NEGATIVES

Location/Gettig there: Now I am a pretty terrible driver at the best of times. I printed off the directions to find DT (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/)D (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/) from the website and drove pretty slow once I got to the city (So slow I got beeped about 6 times!). I am certain I followed them to the letter, and I still got hopelessly lost. Nottingham is a nightmare to drive in with one ways and ring roads. I wouldn't be confident of finding DT (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/)D (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/) again without terrible problems.

Food: I ordered burger and chips at the table and that was excellent. However, just before leaving I availed myself of a breakfast and to be honest it wasn't very good. The bacon and sausages were cold and the scrambled egg looked like lumpy porridge.

Price: £7 for burger and chips was just about ok.. but I really would have baulked at paying £3 for a cheese and onion sandwich. That is way too much imo.

Toilets: I understand it was a pretty busy night (maybe one of the busiest of the year?) But the toilets weren't in great condition. Someone had pissed all over the floor and it hadn't been cleaned up and there was toilet paper everywhere on the floor. The place seems so well staffed, surely there could be room for a toilet attendant?


CONCLUSION: All in all an excellent experience. The place desrves to succeed, the staff are excellent and the management are trying so hard to give poker players a better deal. I am only kicking myself for not going sooner!



Title: Re: DTD - My first visit.. (long)
Post by: Rupert on May 30, 2009, 11:36:02 AM
solid trip report.  the toilets definitely haven't been that bad in the 3 or 4 times i've been over and in fact have been pretty nice so you probs just ran bad


Title: Re: DTD - My first visit.. (long)
Post by: Eck on May 30, 2009, 11:44:38 AM
solid trip report.  the toilets definitely haven't been that bad in the 3 or 4 times i've been over and in fact have been pretty nice so you probs just ran bad

Yes agree, been there a few times and toilets always in excellent condition. Agree with all your points especially location needs to be about 500 miles more Northerly imo  ;D


Title: Re: DTD - My first visit.. (long)
Post by: boldie on May 30, 2009, 11:45:15 AM
solid trip report.  the toilets definitely haven't been that bad in the 3 or 4 times i've been over and in fact have been pretty nice so you probs just ran bad

Yes agree, been there a few times and toilets always in excellent condition. Agree with all your points especially location needs to be about 500 miles more Northerly imo  ;D

this.


Title: Re: DTD - My first visit.. (long)
Post by: The Camel on May 30, 2009, 11:47:23 AM
Maybe I was a little too harsh in my criticism of the loos.

But they certainly weren't in keeping with the state of the rest of the facilities.


Title: Re: DTD - My first visit.. (long)
Post by: Girgy85 on May 30, 2009, 11:50:43 AM

NEGATIVES

Location/Gettig there: Now I am a pretty terrible driver at the best of times. I printed off the directions to find DT (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/)D (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/) from the website and drove pretty slow once I got to the city (So slow I got beeped about 6 times!). I am certain I followed them to the letter, and I still got hopelessly lost. Nottingham is a nightmare to drive in with one ways and ring roads. I wouldn't be confident of finding DT (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/)D (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/) again without terrible problems.


SatNav FTW!!

Good report Keith

Also regards to the toilets ive noticed a few times that the cubicals dont get cleaned throughout the night so maybe a Toilet Attendent/General Maintainance position is needed.


Title: Re: DTD - My first visit.. (long)
Post by: LeKnave on May 30, 2009, 11:53:32 AM
Location/Gettig there: Now I am a pretty terrible driver at the best of times. I printed off the directions to find DT (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/)D (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/) from the website and drove pretty slow once I got to the city (So slow I got beeped about 6 times!). I am certain I followed them to the letter, and I still got hopelessly lost. Nottingham is a nightmare to drive in with one ways and ring roads. I wouldn't be confident of finding DT (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/)D (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/) again without terrible problems.

lol buy a sat nav you nit!


Title: Re: DTD - My first visit.. (long)
Post by: Matt.NFFC. on May 30, 2009, 11:58:49 AM
Good read this.

I'm so lucky to have this place just 30 mins down the road.  Just a shame I'm too poor to play regularly enough for my liking  :(

I've always thought the place was almost faultless, only thing I would like to see is a shorthanded tournament introduced and for me, this is the only thing missing in what is a cracking place to be at.


Title: Re: DTD - My first visit.. (long)
Post by: In Form on May 30, 2009, 12:10:31 PM
she brought me a burger and chips

 ;gobsmacked;


Title: Re: DTD - My first visit.. (long)
Post by: Gazza on May 30, 2009, 03:27:38 PM
So, with a £50k overlay just too good to miss I finally got my arse into gear and made the drive to Nottingham to visit DT (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/)D (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/) for their WSOP tournament.

Nottingham is an awkward distance from me, just too far to drive there and back in day, but so close it feels like a waste of money to stay in a hotel.

Rather than a blow by blow trip report, I would like to briefly outline the positives and the negatives of the tournament and the venue from my point of view..

POSITIVES:

Staff. The most important feature of any service industry business is the staff. And the staff at DT (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/)D (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/) were just fantastic. I have never see so many smiles. The staff seem very happy to be working there and this shows by their eagerness to help and positive attitude. Kudos must go to the management for keeping them so happy.

Dealers: Flawless. Probably had 5 dealers in my (short) time in the tournament. Each one was excellent. Not sure if they were trained by DT (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/)D (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/) or poached from other venues, but they were way better than most other places I have played. Kept the games running smoothly and concentrated well (My petpeeve about some dealers is they don't concentrate well enough and that's why mistakes occur). I would put the general level of dealing on a par with the Vic. Which means they are equal best in Britain.

Floor: There was one small dispute at my table, which the dealer dealt with perfectly, calling the floor at exactly the right moment before tempers flared. The floor made the correct decision and (just as importantly) explained the decision to the aggreived party perfectly.

Management: A bit unfair for me to judge the management, because the 2 Simon's were friends long before DT (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/)D (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/) was even thought of. But, put simply they seemed to be as excellent a job as I would have expected.

Valets: I have played poker all over the world and I have never seen so many valets at one venue. The last tournament I played was the €10,000 + 600 event at Monte Carlo. I wanted a bottle of water. I had to ask the dealer twice and the floor 3 times (!!!!) to get a waitress and when one finally arrived it took 20 minutes for her to get my water and she never gave me any change from a 20 for a 6 Euro bottle. No such problems at DT (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/)D (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/). The valets were swarming around eagerto help and fast and efficient. And when I tipped one £2.50 after she brought me a burger and chips she must have thanked me 5 times!

Facilities: A well stocked and very pleasant bar area, That is enough facilities for me! Seriously, the poker player was very well catered for when not playing.

Tournament: I remember there was a big hoohar about 5 years ago. The Grosvenor Wallsall had a tournament called the "Quarter Million" http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/event.php?a=r&n=1258. It was a £2,500 event and they guaranteed 1/4 million. When they realised they weren't going to get 100 players, they whipped off the guarantee as quick as you like. DT (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/)D (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/) makes a similar guarantee and they are man enough to swallow the loss. Hat's off. The structure was just amazing. I do think as there was such a small field playing 5 levels on day 1 was unneccessary. 4 would have been plenty. But that's a small thing. For a venue to attempt to stage such an ambitious event was very impressive. To go through with it and run it so well was fantastic. They really deserved to get at least 250 runners. For sure I will be playing the other 2 legs.

Playing: The plasma screens told you everything you needed to know and were kept up to date far better than those at the UKPT's. The tables were spacious and there was room to move about. The chips and the cards were of the highest quality.

Cash games. I didn't play any cash games, so it would be unfair for me to comment. Altho I will say I saw an old friend who I hadn't seen in 5+ years and he's a cash game grinder. He is currently in the process of moving to Nottingham, so I think it's safe to assume rthe games are blinding!


NEGATIVES

Location/Gettig there: Now I am a pretty terrible driver at the best of times. I printed off the directions to find DT (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/)D (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/) from the website and drove pretty slow once I got to the city (So slow I got beeped about 6 times!). I am certain I followed them to the letter, and I still got hopelessly lost. Nottingham is a nightmare to drive in with one ways and ring roads. I wouldn't be confident of finding DT (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/)D (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/) again without terrible problems.

Food: I ordered burger and chips at the table and that was excellent. However, just before leaving I availed myself of a breakfast and to be honest it wasn't very good. The bacon and sausages were cold and the scrambled egg looked like lumpy porridge.

Price: £7 for burger and chips was just about ok.. but I really would have baulked at paying £3 for a cheese and onion sandwich. That is way too much imo.

Toilets: I understand it was a pretty busy night (maybe one of the busiest of the year?) But the toilets weren't in great condition. Someone had pissed all over the floor and it hadn't been cleaned up and there was toilet paper everywhere on the floor. The place seems so well staffed, surely there could be room for a toilet attendant?


CONCLUSION: All in all an excellent experience. The place desrves to succeed, the staff are excellent and the management are trying so hard to give poker players a better deal. I am only kicking myself for not going sooner!



Seems you just run bad, the food is usually great and the toilets are usually noticeably clean. DTD has only one fault and that's the rake, but we can (partly) blame the government for that I guess!


Title: Re: DTD - My first visit.. (long)
Post by: Kev B on May 30, 2009, 03:38:34 PM
Great read. 45 min drive for me, you have talked me into a trip over. ;D And yes Sat nav FTW.


Title: Re: DTD - My first visit.. (long)
Post by: Simon Galloway on May 30, 2009, 07:23:54 PM
And when I tipped one £2.50 after she brought me a burger and chips she must have thanked me 5 times!


She prob thought "£2.50 for bringing this guy a starter - not bad!  Should be nailed on for a fiver when I bring him his main course..."


Title: Re: DTD - My first visit.. (long)
Post by: vinni on June 01, 2009, 02:49:47 PM
And when I tipped one £2.50 after she brought me a burger and chips she must have thanked me 5 times!


She prob thought "£2.50 for bringing this guy a starter - not bad!  Should be nailed on for a fiver when I bring him his main course..."

lmao ,what a quote. rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao