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Title: Anyone know where to find a real life Dragons Den situation!
Post by: StuartHopkin on June 04, 2009, 02:10:16 PM
I have a product that I retail around the UK.

There is global interest in distributing this product but I feel that it is beyond my capabilities to take this forward.

Does anyone have any contacts that would be able to advise on selling the design rights to another company?
Ie Find a company who will pay so they can make the product, and obviously take into account the international interest in the product.

Almost like a real life dragons den?


Title: Re: URGENT BUSINESS ADVICE REQUIRED SELLING A BRAND/PRODUCT
Post by: kinboshi on June 04, 2009, 02:11:01 PM
Is it StuHop's Black Eye Cream?


Title: Re: URGENT BUSINESS ADVICE REQUIRED SELLING A BRAND/PRODUCT
Post by: Colchester Kev on June 04, 2009, 02:11:51 PM
Is it Clown shoes that change colour to match any outfit ??


Title: Re: URGENT BUSINESS ADVICE REQUIRED SELLING A BRAND/PRODUCT
Post by: gatso on June 04, 2009, 02:13:20 PM
Is it Clown shoes that change colour to match any outfit ??

A+


Title: Re: URGENT BUSINESS ADVICE REQUIRED SELLING A BRAND/PRODUCT
Post by: TightEnd on June 04, 2009, 02:14:58 PM
serious answer


I can recommend these people. I don't know someone there anymore, but I used to. Very good on things like design rights, intellectual proprty etc

http://www.bristows.com/practice_areas/brand_and_design_protection


stock answer

if it's this http://painting.about.com/od/facepaintingdesigns/ss/facepaintClown.htm, its already been done


Title: Re: URGENT BUSINESS ADVICE REQUIRED SELLING A BRAND/PRODUCT
Post by: GreekStein on June 04, 2009, 02:16:02 PM
clown


Title: Re: URGENT BUSINESS ADVICE REQUIRED SELLING A BRAND/PRODUCT
Post by: StuartHopkin on June 04, 2009, 02:17:05 PM
serious answer


I can recommend these people. I don't know someone there anymore, but I used to. Very good on things like design rights, intellectual proprty etc

http://www.bristows.com/practice_areas/brand_and_design_protection


stock answer

if it's this http://painting.about.com/od/facepaintingdesigns/ss/facepaintClown.htm, its already been done

Oh dear

I actually need some sensible advice.

Thanks tighty, are they to do with protecting the design only or do you think they would know about selling the rights etc and how to market/go about it?


Title: Re: URGENT BUSINESS ADVICE REQUIRED SELLING A BRAND/PRODUCT
Post by: TightEnd on June 04, 2009, 02:18:31 PM
They are solicitors, who specialise in the field

ie will protect your rights, won't help you take it to market


Title: Re: URGENT BUSINESS ADVICE REQUIRED SELLING A BRAND/PRODUCT
Post by: tikay on June 04, 2009, 02:19:16 PM
serious answer


I can recommend these people. I don't know someone there anymore, but I used to. Very good on things like design rights, intellectual proprty etc

http://www.bristows.com/practice_areas/brand_and_design_protection


stock answer

if it's this http://painting.about.com/od/facepaintingdesigns/ss/facepaintClown.htm, its already been done

Rich!

I don't know someone there anymore

Kinboshi & the Pedant Police will have your guts for garters when they see that. Are you in training for Editorship of a Poker Magazine?


Title: Re: URGENT BUSINESS ADVICE REQUIRED SELLING A BRAND/PRODUCT
Post by: TightEnd on June 04, 2009, 02:20:19 PM
a slip of the quill, sorry


Title: Re: URGENT BUSINESS ADVICE REQUIRED SELLING A BRAND/PRODUCT
Post by: StuartHopkin on June 04, 2009, 02:20:53 PM
Shit!

Not worded the OP correctly, i dont want to sell the product to market.

I want to sell the design rights to another company.


Title: Re: URGENT BUSINESS ADVICE REQUIRED SELLING A BRAND/PRODUCT
Post by: kinboshi on June 04, 2009, 02:23:51 PM
(http://behance.vo.llnwd.net/profiles/87189/projects/157662/871891230020422.jpg)


Title: Re: Anyone know where to find a real life Dragons Den situation!
Post by: gatso on June 04, 2009, 02:27:18 PM
question is a bit vague stu

what kind of product are we talking about?


Title: Re: URGENT BUSINESS ADVICE REQUIRED SELLING A BRAND/PRODUCT
Post by: Bongo on June 04, 2009, 02:32:44 PM
These guys? (http://www.bbc.co.uk/dragonsden/)


Title: Re: Anyone know where to find a real life Dragons Den situation!
Post by: StuartHopkin on June 04, 2009, 02:32:58 PM
Not going into too much detail on here but to give you an idea of the scale and product its Dell International that are expressing an interest in marketing it worldwide.


Title: Re: URGENT BUSINESS ADVICE REQUIRED SELLING A BRAND/PRODUCT
Post by: StuartHopkin on June 04, 2009, 02:34:38 PM
These guys? (http://www.bbc.co.uk/dragonsden/)

I think its a bit beyond that point already Bongo if that makes sense.


Title: Re: Anyone know where to find a real life Dragons Den situation!
Post by: gatso on June 04, 2009, 02:52:31 PM
I have people who are looking for products to manufacture and distribute though something that has dell interested may be too high tech. if you can pm me a few more details though I can check it out


Title: Re: Anyone know where to find a real life Dragons Den situation!
Post by: Shogun112 on June 04, 2009, 03:26:47 PM
its a USB powered squirty water device?  LOL...

I was going to say, if you have not already done it, protecting it before you show the possible buyers, or, as Theo would say, if it is not protected, I will go out there and make my own before you.!!!


Title: Re: Anyone know where to find a real life Dragons Den situation!
Post by: StuartHopkin on June 04, 2009, 04:16:28 PM
its a USB powered squirty water device?  LOL...

I was going to say, if you have not already done it, protecting it before you show the possible buyers, or, as Theo would say, if it is not protected, I will go out there and make my own before you.!!!

Its already well protected and in full production and distributed across the UK. Intellectual design rights worldwide etc.
Its all about finding out about how you go about selling the product to one of the larger companies.

On another note, im going to enquire about said USB water devices, i think they could be the next big thing.


Title: Re: Anyone know where to find a real life Dragons Den situation!
Post by: pokerfan on June 04, 2009, 04:24:01 PM
If its really that good and Dell are rolling it out too then the big nobs will come to you anyway.


Title: Re: Anyone know where to find a real life Dragons Den situation!
Post by: StuartHopkin on June 04, 2009, 04:41:27 PM
If its really that good and Dell are rolling it out too then the big nobs will come to you anyway.

Not to sure if this is true as were the manufacturer, they will just assume that were gonna be shipping them out happily.
Were not a small concern in the first place, until you compare us to something like this!
Where it could go from 3000 units a year in the UK, to 300,000 units per year internationally.


Title: Re: Anyone know where to find a real life Dragons Den situation!
Post by: pokerfan on June 04, 2009, 06:40:08 PM
If its really that good and Dell are rolling it out too then the big nobs will come to you anyway.

Not to sure if this is true as were the manufacturer, they will just assume that were gonna be shipping them out happily.
Were not a small concern in the first place, until you compare us to something like this!
Where it could go from 3000 units a year in the UK, to 300,000 units per year internationally.
well you sold it to me, can i have a job.


Title: Re: Anyone know where to find a real life Dragons Den situation!
Post by: mondatoo on June 04, 2009, 06:45:32 PM
Just go on dragon's den imo


Title: Re: Anyone know where to find a real life Dragons Den situation!
Post by: gatso on June 04, 2009, 07:28:00 PM
Just go on dragon's den imo

you are joking? peter jones has a hissy fit if people don't wear ties when they go on. he's gonna kill someone dressed as a harlequin


Title: Re: Anyone know where to find a real life Dragons Den situation!
Post by: boldie on June 04, 2009, 09:09:45 PM
If its really that good and Dell are rolling it out too then the big nobs will come to you anyway.

He's talking Dingdell, it's a squirty flower that you can shove up your arse.


Title: Re: Anyone know where to find a real life Dragons Den situation!
Post by: bolt pp on July 09, 2009, 09:31:36 PM
i was thinking about this before, there should be an online site like dragons den.

you dont have to have any resident "dragons" just a site where people can go to pitch there ideas and outline what it's all about and recreational/professional investors can scour the site for opportunities to invest in, a bit like the staking board really but on a huge scale.

It would save people sending a shitload of e-mails to a bunch of people who dont get back to you, a perfect idea for the OP really, is there anything like that around?


Title: Re: Anyone know where to find a real life Dragons Den situation!
Post by: dousche on July 10, 2009, 10:47:39 AM
just take it to mass market yourself, big business is like poker right? you can just kinda pick it up as you go along...


Title: Re: Anyone know where to find a real life Dragons Den situation!
Post by: StuartHopkin on July 10, 2009, 12:40:02 PM
just take it to mass market yourself, big business is like poker right? you can just kinda pick it up as you go along...

Yeah in a way thats where it is now heading.

I just really want to retire at christmas.

Im lazy like that.


Title: Re: Anyone know where to find a real life Dragons Den situation!
Post by: scotty2hatty on July 10, 2009, 05:52:52 PM
i was thinking about this before, there should be an online site like dragons den.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dragonsden/onlinepitches/


Title: Re: Anyone know where to find a real life Dragons Den situation!
Post by: bolt pp on July 10, 2009, 06:09:56 PM
i was thinking about this before, there should be an online site like dragons den.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dragonsden/onlinepitches/

That's where i shouldve pitched my t.v show idea.