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Title: Trips on flop Post by: david3103 on June 10, 2009, 05:31:27 PM 8 handed 5,000 starting stack 50/100 blinds
I'm in BB and my stack has dropped to 3,300 thanks to some inspired preflop calls by others! K 9 hitting two pair when I'd raised with AK for one... two limpers plus S makes up I have Kh Ts and check ... (mistake?) flop is Qh Tc Td SB checks I check first limper bets 300, fold, call action? Title: Re: Trips on flop Post by: kukushkin88 on June 10, 2009, 06:18:10 PM Make it 900, snap if he shoves.
Title: Re: Trips on flop Post by: StuartHopkin on June 10, 2009, 08:42:02 PM check is fine pre, K 10 is pretty poor
now its massive bet the flop as played raise to 900 as kukush says Title: Re: Trips on flop Post by: DUNK619 on June 10, 2009, 08:44:21 PM whats the reason for the raise
Title: Re: Trips on flop Post by: StuartHopkin on June 10, 2009, 08:47:23 PM whats the reason for the raise why not? lol need to make sure we can get all the chips in at some point and although its a rainbow board its all over a few typically limped hands Title: Re: Trips on flop Post by: boldie on June 10, 2009, 09:44:20 PM Lead out on the flop for me...as played Flat call and hope he fires again on the turn.
Title: Re: Trips on flop Post by: Numpty Dumpty on June 10, 2009, 11:00:14 PM i reckons lead the flop. as played raise to 900 is good.
if you flat and check the turn it is likely you will get nothing else in against hands like KJ, J9. flatting and leading the turn is horrible - you may as well carry a sign saying "i have a ten" Title: Re: Trips on flop Post by: mondatoo on June 10, 2009, 11:25:13 PM What other hand would you check raise with on this board other than having a 10 in your hand since it's a pretty dry board ??
Title: Re: Trips on flop Post by: MANTIS01 on June 11, 2009, 02:04:59 AM What other hand would you check raise with on this board other than having a 10 in your hand since it's a pretty dry board ?? K-J, J-9, air Title: Re: Trips on flop Post by: david3103 on June 11, 2009, 06:13:48 AM I raised to 800 (close enough?) Bet sizing is an issue for me sometimes, I'm trying to counter a tendency to overbet, and my first thought was to make it 1300...
Initial better folds (he had an underpair apparently) and sb calls the extra 500 turn is Js SB checks.... Title: Re: Trips on flop Post by: boldie on June 11, 2009, 07:43:41 AM I raised to 800 (close enough?) Bet sizing is an issue for me sometimes, I'm trying to counter a tendency to overbet, and my first thought was to make it 1300... Initial better folds (he had an underpair apparently) and sb calls the extra 500 turn is Js SB checks.... SB calls?...OK...he must have some sort of hand. I am still happy to bet out here though. 1500 should do (the chips are obv going to go in the middle here). Title: Re: Trips on flop Post by: david3103 on June 11, 2009, 10:58:32 AM I raised to 800 (close enough?) Bet sizing is an issue for me sometimes, I'm trying to counter a tendency to overbet, and my first thought was to make it 1300... Initial better folds (he had an underpair apparently) and sb calls the extra 500 turn is Js SB checks.... SB calls?...OK...he must have some sort of hand. I am still happy to bet out here though. 1500 should do (the chips are obv going to go in the middle here). I bet a 1000 - he called instantly Turn card was a blank - a 4 I think SB puts me All in.... Title: Re: Trips on flop Post by: kukushkin88 on June 11, 2009, 11:17:47 AM Well we're not folding with 1900 of our stack in the middle and 1400 back, if we were in front on the turn then we still are. Hopefully he has QJ, arguably his most likely holding based on the action.
Title: Re: Trips on flop Post by: boldie on June 11, 2009, 11:30:55 AM I raised to 800 (close enough?) Bet sizing is an issue for me sometimes, I'm trying to counter a tendency to overbet, and my first thought was to make it 1300... Initial better folds (he had an underpair apparently) and sb calls the extra 500 turn is Js SB checks.... SB calls?...OK...he must have some sort of hand. I am still happy to bet out here though. 1500 should do (the chips are obv going to go in the middle here). I bet a 1000 - he called instantly Turn card was a blank - a 4 I think SB puts me All in.... snap and cry. Title: Re: Trips on flop Post by: GreekStein on June 11, 2009, 11:38:09 AM [ X ]check is fine pre, [ ] K 10 is pretty poor K10! POOR? WTF? KING AND A TEN!? THOSE ARE BOTH KINDA BIG STU Title: Re: Trips on flop Post by: StuartHopkin on June 11, 2009, 12:12:00 PM [ X ]check is fine pre, [ ] K 10 is pretty poor K10! POOR? WTF? KING AND A TEN!? THOSE ARE BOTH KINDA BIG STU Its like they add up to 20! Sorry didnt realise! Stick. Title: Re: Trips on flop Post by: MANTIS01 on June 11, 2009, 02:01:11 PM I raised to 800 (close enough?) Bet sizing is an issue for me sometimes, I'm trying to counter a tendency to overbet, and my first thought was to make it 1300... Initial better folds (he had an underpair apparently) and sb calls the extra 500 turn is Js SB checks.... You are trying to counter a tendency to overbet. But don't you think this is a situation where overbetting is actually better? You raise villain's 300 by 500 more...so tell me what hand you are trying to represent with that bet that doesn't include a 10 like Mondatoo said? If you had the straight draw or air would you raise 500 more? No you wouldn't, so why raise 500 more. Just cos you have a tendency to overbet doesn't mean overbetting should be avoided in every situation. Title: Re: Trips on flop Post by: david3103 on June 12, 2009, 10:41:52 AM I raised to 800 (close enough?) Bet sizing is an issue for me sometimes, I'm trying to counter a tendency to overbet, and my first thought was to make it 1300... Initial better folds (he had an underpair apparently) and sb calls the extra 500 turn is Js SB checks.... You are trying to counter a tendency to overbet. But don't you think this is a situation where overbetting is actually better? You raise villain's 300 by 500 more...so tell me what hand you are trying to represent with that bet that doesn't include a 10 like Mondatoo said? If you had the straight draw or air would you raise 500 more? No you wouldn't, so why raise 500 more. Just cos you have a tendency to overbet doesn't mean overbetting should be avoided in every situation. Not sure what the advice is here. Are you suggesting that 500 wasn't enough? Would 600 make a difference? How much would? Based on my knowledge of the villain I'd have almost had to shove the flop to get him off his draw.... Not posting the result for obv reasons Title: Re: Trips on flop Post by: MANTIS01 on June 12, 2009, 11:27:33 AM I raised to 800 (close enough?) Bet sizing is an issue for me sometimes, I'm trying to counter a tendency to overbet, and my first thought was to make it 1300... Initial better folds (he had an underpair apparently) and sb calls the extra 500 turn is Js SB checks.... You are trying to counter a tendency to overbet. But don't you think this is a situation where overbetting is actually better? You raise villain's 300 by 500 more...so tell me what hand you are trying to represent with that bet that doesn't include a 10 like Mondatoo said? If you had the straight draw or air would you raise 500 more? No you wouldn't, so why raise 500 more. Just cos you have a tendency to overbet doesn't mean overbetting should be avoided in every situation. Not sure what the advice is here. Are you suggesting that 500 wasn't enough? Would 600 make a difference? How much would? Based on my knowledge of the villain I'd have almost had to shove the flop to get him off his draw.... Not posting the result for obv reasons My advice is that whether you overbet is dependant on the individual situation, not on your general tendency in other situations. Here you have a villain who you "almost had to shove the flop to get him off his draw" and yet you reduce your bet size due to your "general tendancy" to overbet. But this is a situation where you can overbet. You can overbet here because of the type of villain you're playing and the sort of weak hand you want to represent. I would c-r to 1,100 if not leading the flop. |