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Title: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: DBC2007 on June 14, 2009, 05:38:34 AM
i thought there would maybe be a thread about it.  or do you only follow certain english guys?

live on pkr atm with 5 left

the slowroll he did was completely scummy and he shud be ashamed


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: DBC2007 on June 14, 2009, 05:41:21 AM
4 left now

f it im of to bed.  that slowroll made me hope he loses


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: Rookie (Rodney) on June 14, 2009, 05:45:16 AM
What slowroll did he do??


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: Horneris on June 14, 2009, 05:54:23 AM
Greco Finds a Hand; Promptly Doubles
Michael Greco raised to a barely-over-the-minimum 130,000 and Pete Vilandos called him from the big blind.

Flop:     9c 3c Ks

Vilandos checked and Greco bet 200,000. Call.

Turn:   9h

Vilandos checked again and now Greco made it 250,000 to go -- only for Vilandos to announce all in to cover Greco. Greco now had a real decision -- he wandered off for a moment, then came back to the table and stared at Vilandos for some time.

Then he called for his last 500,000.


Vilandos:    Kd  Ts
Greco:    Ahrt Ad

"Hold! HOOLLLLLDDD!" pleaded the Greco railers (Mr Hougaard was allowed back in at the break).

River:  

Greco doubles to over 2 million.



WTF?


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: DBC2007 on June 14, 2009, 05:59:49 AM
as if your ever folding aces there when getting around 3/1.  just trying to suck up tv time
 

wtf are they not showing the other final table for.  id rather watch ivey vs mortenson and lee instead of 4 nobodys


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: Linux on June 14, 2009, 06:04:52 AM
grecos railers are the biggest clowns ever


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: snoopy1239 on June 14, 2009, 06:05:53 AM
Hardly a slowroll.


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: Rookie (Rodney) on June 14, 2009, 06:07:27 AM
Hardly a slowroll.

Nitroll.


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: DBC2007 on June 14, 2009, 06:07:33 AM
grecos railers are the biggest clowns ever

thats jesper hougaard.  won 2 bracelets last year and staked greco into this event afaik

and lol at snoopy.  so your getting 3/1 and you would think about folding and being shortstacked?  it was a slowroll pure and simple


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: snoopy1239 on June 14, 2009, 06:13:58 AM
grecos railers are the biggest clowns ever

thats jesper hougaard.  won 2 bracelets last year and staked greco into this event afaik

and lol at snoopy.  so your getting 3/1 and you would think about folding and being shortstacked?  it was a slowroll pure and simple

Always easier from the rail. Nitroll, as Rookie said.


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: DBC2007 on June 14, 2009, 06:17:35 AM
ROFL

you are clueless.  there is a 100% chance NOONE is folding this hand.  if you fold then you are shortstacked

therefore if you have no intension/cant fold and you take your time calling.  its a slowroll



Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: ChipRich on June 14, 2009, 06:48:34 AM
LOL its hardly a slowroll unless your holding the abs nuts tbf.

Nitroll, but yeh obv not folding.

EDIT: Unless your balancing your slowrolling range ldo.


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: snoopy1239 on June 14, 2009, 07:04:18 AM
ROFL

you are clueless.  there is a 100% chance NOONE is folding this hand.  if you fold then you are shortstacked

therefore if you have no intension/cant fold and you take your time calling.  its a slowroll



No, not clueless. And as for 100 percent, no way, especially if you've played Paul Parker. If you've played Greco, you'll know he's an absolute rock who wouldn't be (as crazy as it sounds) beyond folding this hand, so this is most likely a nitroll. I think it's worth taking into consideration that this is a WSOP final table with both a bracelet and $607,256 up for grabs. It's a pretty important hand, so I think I can forgive him for not insta-calling on this occasion. Also, as Chiprich said, he's only got a pair here with the river still to come, it's not as if he's fucking around with quads. The way the hand's played out, his opponent could have a nine. Obviously his range is wide enough to hold other cards, so from our perspective it's an easy call, but he's probably knackered, with emotions running high, so let's not begrudge him a little thought before making the call. He also might have some reads on the guy or something too. Greco don't half get a lot of grief, and some of it is probably justified when he lets his "Italian temperament" get the better of him, but at least he's one of these ex-celebrities who's given his all to the game and really worked hard to succeed. Well done I say, third place for $248,855 is a fine result, especially since he grinded a short stack for most of the tournament. Being quick to point the finger and shout "slowroll!" if someone doesn't insta-call seems to be an obsession these days.


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: George2Loose on June 14, 2009, 08:57:32 AM
ROFL

you are clueless.  there is a 100% chance NOONE is folding this hand.  if you fold then you are shortstacked

therefore if you have no intension/cant fold and you take your time calling.  its a slowroll



No, not clueless. And as for 100 percent, no way, especially if you've played Paul Parker. If you've played Greco, you'll know he's an absolute rock who wouldn't be (as crazy as it sounds) beyond folding this hand, so this is most likely a nitroll. I think it's worth taking into consideration that this is a WSOP final table with both a bracelet and $607,256 up for grabs. It's a pretty important hand, so I think I can forgive him for not insta-calling on this occasion. Also, as Chiprich said, he's only got a pair here with the river still to come, it's not as if he's fucking around with quads. The way the hand's played out, his opponent could have a nine. Obviously his range is wide enough to hold other cards, so from our perspective it's an easy call, but he's probably knackered, with emotions running high, so let's not begrudge him a little thought before making the call. He also might have some reads on the guy or something too. Greco don't half get a lot of grief, and some of it is probably justified when he lets his "Italian temperament" get the better of him, but at least he's one of these ex-celebrities who's given his all to the game and really worked hard to succeed. Well done I say, third place for $248,855 is a fine result, especially since he grinded a short stack for most of the tournament. Being quick to point the finger and shout "slowroll!" if someone doesn't insta-call seems to be an obsession these days.

Agree- just cos most of us would snap does not make it a slow roll


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: jambo22 on June 14, 2009, 09:02:15 AM
grecos railers are the biggest clowns ever

thats jesper hougaard.  won 2 bracelets last year and staked greco into this event afaik

and lol at snoopy.  so your getting 3/1 and you would think about folding and being shortstacked?  it was a slowroll pure and simple

Always easier from the rail. Nitroll, as Rookie said.
+1


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: neverbluff67 on June 14, 2009, 09:06:25 AM
ROFL

you are clueless.  there is a 100% chance NOONE is folding this hand.  if you fold then you are shortstacked

therefore if you have no intension/cant fold and you take your time calling.  its a slowroll



need to look up slowroll again imo

even if he was never realistically folding its not a slowroll


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: Dewi_cool on June 14, 2009, 09:18:14 AM
grecos railers are the biggest clowns ever

thats jesper hougaard.  won 2 bracelets last year and staked greco into this event afaik

and lol at snoopy.  so your getting 3/1 and you would think about folding and being shortstacked?  it was a slowroll pure and simple

Always easier from the rail. Nitroll, as Rookie said.
+1
slowroll my ****


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: DBC2007 on June 14, 2009, 09:57:37 AM

he's only got a pair here with the river still to come

i believe he had 2 pair

if he wasen't english you would agree it's a slowroll.  i dont care if he is a nit


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: Horneris on June 14, 2009, 10:02:18 AM
Gianni di Marco wouldve snapped.


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: Linux on June 14, 2009, 10:03:26 AM
Gianni di Marco wouldve snapped.

without a shadow of a doubt, i believe teresa di marco would also have snapped


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: Dewi_cool on June 14, 2009, 10:07:40 AM

he's only got a pair here with the river still to come

i believe he had 2 pair

if he wasen't english you would agree it's a slowroll.  i dont care if he is a nit

I thought he was Italian? at least he was on Eastenders ;whistle;



Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: DUNK619 on June 14, 2009, 10:21:42 AM
Gianni di Marco wouldve snapped.

without a shadow of a doubt, i believe teresa di marco would also have snapped
wellard wouldve snapped


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: Linux on June 14, 2009, 10:32:44 AM
The mitchell brothers took a dim view of his slowroll

(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/05_01/philgrant_468x351.jpg)


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: Karabiner on June 14, 2009, 10:35:46 AM
grecos railers are the biggest clowns ever

thats jesper hougaard.  won 2 bracelets last year and staked greco into this event afaik

and lol at snoopy.  so your getting 3/1 and you would think about folding and being shortstacked?  it was a slowroll pure and simple

Always easier from the rail. Nitroll, as Rookie said.
+1
slowroll my ****

This


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: Horneris on June 14, 2009, 10:36:56 AM
Grant was already unhappy with him trying it on with Tiffany.


Title: Re: English guy beppe on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: Linux on June 14, 2009, 10:40:38 AM
frank and pat were prevalent on Beppe's rail

(http://images.google.co.uk/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/07_03/mreidBBC2907_468x368.jpg&usg=AFQjCNFXm79V6fyiNzINMHgKSLO7DFgrbQ)


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: Horneris on June 14, 2009, 10:44:56 AM
Ian was next to join Beppe's rail, mainly just to tilt Grant.

(http://www.interestment.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/ian-beale-380x380.jpg)


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: MANTIS01 on June 14, 2009, 10:46:15 AM
How can it be a slowroll if bepe hasn't seen villain's cards? Clear nitroll.


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: Linux on June 14, 2009, 10:48:09 AM
Ian was next to join Beppe's rail, mainly just to tilt Grant.

(http://www.interestment.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/ian-beale-380x380.jpg)

could these 2 be related

(http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v652/166/40/519132558/n519132558_2398260_4824.jpg)


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: ACE2M on June 14, 2009, 10:55:56 AM
Ian was next to join Beppe's rail, mainly just to tilt Grant.

(http://www.interestment.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/ian-beale-380x380.jpg)

just the picture made me involuntarily snigger


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: Tractor on June 14, 2009, 11:07:27 AM
What is meant by the term "slowroll"?

If you slowroll someone, then this means that you take an incredibly long period of time (usually the full amount that you are allowed to take) to call when your opponent is already all-in, you have the stone cold nuts and there is nobody left to act after you.

Meaning, you can't lose the hand under ANY circumstances, there is nobody left to act in the hand (meaning, you don't need to act like you don't have a very strong hand as there is no point), yet you still take you sweet time in making the call.

[ ]This hand was a slowroll



Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: kinboshi on June 14, 2009, 11:27:03 AM
Is Minty still in?

(http://www.bbc.co.uk/eastenders/images/characters_cast/characters/minty_p/minty_peterson_large_1.jpg)


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: Horneris on June 14, 2009, 11:29:22 AM
The Rest of Beppe's Rail begins to take shape:

(http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/7251/beppesrail.jpg)


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: Linux on June 14, 2009, 11:30:58 AM
hahahahaha vnh brent


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: kinboshi on June 14, 2009, 11:32:07 AM
;applause;


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: phatomch on June 14, 2009, 11:37:40 AM
hes got 1/4 mill that says he done the right thing at some point, well done  mike "dont call me beppe" grecco


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: Marky147 on June 14, 2009, 11:39:17 AM
The Rest of Beppe's Rail begins to take shape:

(http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/7251/beppesrail.jpg)

ROFL GOLD!


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: phatomch on June 14, 2009, 11:41:48 AM
The Rest of Beppe's Rail begins to take shape:

(http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/7251/beppesrail.jpg)

ROFL GOLD!


hes railing himself?


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: pokerfan on June 14, 2009, 11:42:39 AM
The Rest of Beppe's Rail begins to take shape:

(http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/7251/beppesrail.jpg)

ROFL GOLD!


hes railing himself?
er no


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: phatomch on June 14, 2009, 11:49:22 AM
ah just looked at it closer, hes playing  ;booboo; ;marks;


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: easypickings on June 14, 2009, 11:51:07 AM
I think the word slowroll shouldn't be used on a whim, as it does describe a deliberate delay when you are absolutely sure that you have the best hand. It's about as low as you can get in poker, and not something that Greco would ever consdier doing.

Obviously this is a snap call, but I think you can't be sure you have the best hand, especially as the way the hand has played out has made it obvious that Greco has a big hand.

Nitrolls are frustrating for the opponent, but there is technically nothing wrong with them at all, people just have different styles of play.


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: Claw75 on June 14, 2009, 01:42:28 PM
lol'ing at this thread - quality.





ps
[ ] slowroll


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: Longy on June 14, 2009, 02:10:25 PM
The Rest of Beppe's Rail begins to take shape:

(http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/7251/beppesrail.jpg)

Lol, nh sir.


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: WarBwastard on June 14, 2009, 02:20:09 PM
This is a TV time dwell up at worst.  I don't think it was even that though.  A slow-roll is wasting time when you're holding the nuts just to give your all-in opponent a suggestion that he might be winning purely out of spite.  Grecco has one pair here how can it possibly be a slow-roll.


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: GreekStein on June 14, 2009, 02:55:56 PM
Grant was already unhappy with him trying it on with Tiffany.

Brent thats Lynne Slater, not Tiffany!

Amateur!


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: Amatay on June 14, 2009, 02:56:29 PM
ahahahhahaha, quality thread!


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: jambo22 on June 14, 2009, 03:41:49 PM
 ;bumwiggle;


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: GreekStein on June 14, 2009, 03:46:46 PM
He finished 3rd, the greek bloke won obv.


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: George2Loose on June 14, 2009, 04:18:36 PM
It's one of those "I knew you had a 9 I shoudl have folded Aces" delay- just so on camera he can say "I knew I was beat" blah blah blah.



Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: boldie on June 14, 2009, 05:44:12 PM
He finished 3rd, the greek bloke won obv.

VWP though!


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: owen1923 on June 15, 2009, 09:48:31 AM
I think this thread sums the Brits up perfectly, find fault in our own as soon as someone starts to do well.

Well played I say, never a slow roll.


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: Jon MW on June 15, 2009, 09:49:56 AM
I think this thread sums the Brits up perfectly, find fault in our own as soon as someone starts to do well.

Well played I say, never a slow roll.

Bit of an overgeneralisation don't you think as only one person was finding any fault?


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: GreekStein on June 15, 2009, 09:52:57 AM
I think this thread sums the Brits up perfectly, find fault in our own as soon as someone starts to do well.

Well played I say, never a slow roll.

Bit of an overgeneralisation don't you think as only one person was finding any fault?

I've always thought this was true about us Brits.


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: kinboshi on June 15, 2009, 09:53:48 AM
I think this thread sums the Brits up perfectly, find fault in our own as soon as someone starts to do well.

Well played I say, never a slow roll.

Bit of an overgeneralisation don't you think as only one person was finding any fault?

I've always thought this was true about us Brits.

Thought you were Greek ffs.


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: owen1923 on June 15, 2009, 09:54:12 AM
I think this thread sums the Brits up perfectly, find fault in our own as soon as someone starts to do well.

Well played I say, never a slow roll.

Bit of an overgeneralisation don't you think as only one person was finding any fault?

Yeah well maybe your right, just a little frustrating that a thread focuses on a perceived slow roll,  rather than the achievement.


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: GreekStein on June 15, 2009, 09:56:05 AM
I think this thread sums the Brits up perfectly, find fault in our own as soon as someone starts to do well.

Well played I say, never a slow roll.

Bit of an overgeneralisation don't you think as only one person was finding any fault?

I've always thought this was true about us Brits.

Thought you were Greek ffs.

when it suits me!


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: TheChipPrince on June 15, 2009, 09:59:04 AM
The Rest of Beppe's Rail begins to take shape:

(http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/7251/beppesrail.jpg)

Sneaked in a little Grayson there I see, nh...


Title: Re: English guy greco on final table of 1500 holdem
Post by: gatso on June 15, 2009, 07:27:06 PM
I think this thread sums the Brits up perfectly, find fault in our own as soon as someone starts to do well.

Well played I say, never a slow roll.

Bit of an overgeneralisation don't you think as only one person was finding any fault?

and that one person isn't even british is he?

apart from that it's a pretty good observation owen