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Title: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: action man on July 01, 2009, 12:46:10 PM
watching loose women, these broads say there is calling for smoking to be banned OUTSIDE of pubs/bars/restaurants
what a load of old bollocks this is.


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: Claw75 on July 01, 2009, 12:50:27 PM
watching loose women, these broads say there is calling for smoking to be banned OUTSIDE of pubs/bars/restaurants
what a load of old bollocks this is.

didn't see it, but did they just mean right outside doorways and stuff like that?  Can understand people coming in and out wouldn't want to do so through a fog of smoke.


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: action man on July 01, 2009, 12:52:39 PM
oh a fog of smoke, poor babies


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: GreekStein on July 01, 2009, 12:53:38 PM
watching loose women, these broads say there is calling for smoking to be banned OUTSIDE of pubs/bars/restaurants
what a load of old bollocks this is.

you can't say broad to sound cool when you're watching loose women!


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: boldie on July 01, 2009, 01:04:25 PM
watching loose women, these broads say there is calling for smoking to be banned OUTSIDE of pubs/bars/restaurants
what a load of old bollocks this is.

 I want to ban stupid-menstrual-semi-feminist-fat-slappers from telly. (This includes Kyle and Vine)


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: Girgy85 on July 01, 2009, 01:05:15 PM
watching loose women, these broads say there is calling for smoking to be banned OUTSIDE of pubs/bars/restaurants
what a load of old bollocks this is.

didn't see it, but did they just mean right outside doorways and stuff like that?  Can understand people coming in and out wouldn't want to do so through a fog of smoke.

Agreed!


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: ScottMGee on July 01, 2009, 01:11:54 PM
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oh a fog of smoke, poor babies

Oh I'm not going to able to kill myself and others whilst looking like a loser, poor baby.


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: boldie on July 01, 2009, 01:13:38 PM
watching loose women, these broads say there is calling for smoking to be banned OUTSIDE of pubs/bars/restaurants
what a load of old bollocks this is.

didn't see it, but did they just mean right outside doorways and stuff like that?  Can understand people coming in and out wouldn't want to do so through a fog of smoke.

Agreed!

I don't like walking behind someone in the street who smokes, reckon they should ban that as well.


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: EvilPie on July 01, 2009, 01:22:33 PM
watching loose women, these broads say there is calling for smoking to be banned OUTSIDE of pubs/bars/restaurants
what a load of old bollocks this is.

didn't see it, but did they just mean right outside doorways and stuff like that?  Can understand people coming in and out wouldn't want to do so through a fog of smoke.

Agreed!

I don't like walking behind someone in the street who smokes, reckon they should ban that as well.

And people smoking outside when it's sunny because I want to sit outside as well.


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: boldie on July 01, 2009, 01:36:04 PM
watching loose women, these broads say there is calling for smoking to be banned OUTSIDE of pubs/bars/restaurants
what a load of old bollocks this is.

didn't see it, but did they just mean right outside doorways and stuff like that?  Can understand people coming in and out wouldn't want to do so through a fog of smoke.

Agreed!

I don't like walking behind someone in the street who smokes, reckon they should ban that as well.

And people smoking outside when it's sunny because I want to sit outside as well.
Good point.


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: cia260895 on July 01, 2009, 01:43:51 PM
watching loose women, these broads say there is calling for smoking to be banned OUTSIDE of pubs/bars/restaurants
what a load of old bollocks this is.

 I want to ban stupid-menstrual-semi-feminist-fat-slappers from telly. (This includes Kyle and Vine)

where's the petition?

watching loose women, these broads say there is calling for smoking to be banned OUTSIDE of pubs/bars/restaurants
what a load of old bollocks this is.

didn't see it, but did they just mean right outside doorways and stuff like that?  Can understand people coming in and out wouldn't want to do so through a fog of smoke.

Agreed!

I don't like walking behind someone in the street who smokes, reckon they should ban that as well.

walk quicker and get in front

 everyone's a winner


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: Dewi_cool on July 01, 2009, 01:49:34 PM
watching loose women, these broads say there is calling for smoking to be banned OUTSIDE of pubs/bars/restaurants
what a load of old bollocks this is.

surprised to find you watch this rubbish tbh


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: boldie on July 01, 2009, 01:50:46 PM
watching loose women, these broads say there is calling for smoking to be banned OUTSIDE of pubs/bars/restaurants
what a load of old bollocks this is.

 I want to ban stupid-menstrual-semi-feminist-fat-slappers from telly. (This includes Kyle and Vine)

where's the petition?

watching loose women, these broads say there is calling for smoking to be banned OUTSIDE of pubs/bars/restaurants
what a load of old bollocks this is.

didn't see it, but did they just mean right outside doorways and stuff like that?  Can understand people coming in and out wouldn't want to do so through a fog of smoke.

Agreed!

I don't like walking behind someone in the street who smokes, reckon they should ban that as well.

walk quicker and get in front

 everyone's a winner


walk quicker?..but what if I'm out for a leasurely stroll?


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: George2Loose on July 01, 2009, 01:57:28 PM
Surely they mean ban smoking in public places full stop?

I'm sure some states in America have this law.

As a non smoker I'm obviously going to agree that it should be banned full stop.

But from a rights point of view I think the smoking ban we have atm is sufficient enough


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: boldie on July 01, 2009, 02:15:51 PM
yeah some parks in the States are non-smoking.

 


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: Rod Paradise on July 01, 2009, 02:28:22 PM
As a non-smoker I think this is a pile of shite... FFS IF the governement would give up their huge haul from the tax on tobacco then I'd believe they were serious in trying to ban it.

Leave people alone. They banned smoking in pubs and now you can smell every fart, bit of BO & you can see the people in the place - they all looked better through a smokey haze!!!

Leave it as an open choice (remember them) and pubs put up a sign to say they are smoking or non-smoking - job done. And I'd rather second hand smoke than the non-smoker doing the 'cough cough, handwaving' pish they do to show their disapproval of smokers.



Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: George2Loose on July 01, 2009, 02:31:26 PM
As a non-smoker I think this is a pile of shite... FFS IF the governement would give up their huge haul from the tax on tobacco then I'd believe they were serious in trying to ban it.

Leave people alone. They banned smoking in pubs and now you can smell every fart, bit of BO & you can see the people in the place - they all looked better through a smokey haze!!!

Leave it as an open choice (remember them) and pubs put up a sign to say they are smoking or non-smoking - job done. And I'd rather second hand smoke than the non-smoker doing the 'cough cough, handwaving' pish they do to show their disapproval of smokers.



I'd rather put up with the odour then die of lung cancer TYVM


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: Rod Paradise on July 01, 2009, 02:33:27 PM
As a non-smoker I think this is a pile of shite... FFS IF the governement would give up their huge haul from the tax on tobacco then I'd believe they were serious in trying to ban it.

Leave people alone. They banned smoking in pubs and now you can smell every fart, bit of BO & you can see the people in the place - they all looked better through a smokey haze!!!

Leave it as an open choice (remember them) and pubs put up a sign to say they are smoking or non-smoking - job done. And I'd rather second hand smoke than the non-smoker doing the 'cough cough, handwaving' pish they do to show their disapproval of smokers.



I'd rather put up with the odour then die of lung cancer TYVM

Or go to another pub? Seriously the risk is overplayed anyway FFS. How many old smokers are there? Plenty. If a bit of tobacco smoke cleans up the species by eliminating weak lunged people with a flimsy DNA then it's just darwinism in action anyway.


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: boldie on July 01, 2009, 02:43:07 PM
As a non-smoker I think this is a pile of shite... FFS IF the governement would give up their huge haul from the tax on tobacco then I'd believe they were serious in trying to ban it.

Leave people alone. They banned smoking in pubs and now you can smell every fart, bit of BO & you can see the people in the place - they all looked better through a smokey haze!!!

Leave it as an open choice (remember them) and pubs put up a sign to say they are smoking or non-smoking - job done. And I'd rather second hand smoke than the non-smoker doing the 'cough cough, handwaving' pish they do to show their disapproval of smokers.



I'd rather put up with the odour then die of lung cancer TYVM

Or go to another pub? Seriously the risk is overplayed anyway FFS. How many old smokers are there? Plenty. If a bit of tobacco smoke cleans up the species by eliminating weak lunged people with a flimsy DNA then it's just darwinism in action anyway.

I think I love you.


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: doubleup on July 01, 2009, 02:50:29 PM

Smoking is a load of pish


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: George2Loose on July 01, 2009, 02:51:05 PM
As a non-smoker I think this is a pile of shite... FFS IF the governement would give up their huge haul from the tax on tobacco then I'd believe they were serious in trying to ban it.

Leave people alone. They banned smoking in pubs and now you can smell every fart, bit of BO & you can see the people in the place - they all looked better through a smokey haze!!!

Leave it as an open choice (remember them) and pubs put up a sign to say they are smoking or non-smoking - job done. And I'd rather second hand smoke than the non-smoker doing the 'cough cough, handwaving' pish they do to show their disapproval of smokers.



I'd rather put up with the odour then die of lung cancer TYVM

Or go to another pub? Seriously the risk is overplayed anyway FFS. How many old smokers are there? Plenty. If a bit of tobacco smoke cleans up the species by eliminating weak lunged people with a flimsy DNA then it's just darwinism in action anyway.

I think I love you.

Disagree. Why should I have to go elsewhere? Smoke if you want. But I don't want to put up with ta.

Also I remember coming home after a night out or even a game of poker stinking of smoke- I'd rather not have that.

I can also take my kids to numberous pubs/restuarants etc without having them put up with passive smoking

Overplayed or not- people die of passive smoking. It shouldn't happen and now that we have a reasonable ban in place it will happen less which can only be a good thing


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: Bongo on July 01, 2009, 02:59:23 PM
The smoke in gala notts used to make my eyes sting. It really was that bad.


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: WarBwastard on July 01, 2009, 03:00:01 PM
As a non-smoker I think this is a pile of shite... FFS IF the governement would give up their huge haul from the tax on tobacco then I'd believe they were serious in trying to ban it.

Leave people alone. They banned smoking in pubs and now you can smell every fart, bit of BO & you can see the people in the place - they all looked better through a smokey haze!!!

Leave it as an open choice (remember them) and pubs put up a sign to say they are smoking or non-smoking - job done. And I'd rather second hand smoke than the non-smoker doing the 'cough cough, handwaving' pish they do to show their disapproval of smokers.



I'd rather put up with the odour then die of lung cancer TYVM

Or go to another pub? Seriously the risk is overplayed anyway FFS. How many old smokers are there? Plenty. If a bit of tobacco smoke cleans up the species by eliminating weak lunged people with a flimsy DNA then it's just darwinism in action anyway.

Darwinsm also selects ignorant twats for elimination too don't forget.


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: Rod Paradise on July 01, 2009, 03:00:37 PM
As a non-smoker I think this is a pile of shite... FFS IF the governement would give up their huge haul from the tax on tobacco then I'd believe they were serious in trying to ban it.

Leave people alone. They banned smoking in pubs and now you can smell every fart, bit of BO & you can see the people in the place - they all looked better through a smokey haze!!!

Leave it as an open choice (remember them) and pubs put up a sign to say they are smoking or non-smoking - job done. And I'd rather second hand smoke than the non-smoker doing the 'cough cough, handwaving' pish they do to show their disapproval of smokers.



I'd rather put up with the odour then die of lung cancer TYVM

Or go to another pub? Seriously the risk is overplayed anyway FFS. How many old smokers are there? Plenty. If a bit of tobacco smoke cleans up the species by eliminating weak lunged people with a flimsy DNA then it's just darwinism in action anyway.

I think I love you.

Disagree. Why should I have to go elsewhere? Smoke if you want. But I don't want to put up with ta.

Also I remember coming home after a night out or even a game of poker stinking of smoke- I'd rather not have that.

I can also take my kids to numberous pubs/restuarants etc without having them put up with passive smoking

Overplayed or not- people die of passive smoking. It shouldn't happen and now that we have a reasonable ban in place it will happen less which can only be a good thing

Hang on though, your premise here is that because YOU don't like smoking in a premises NO premise in the country should be allowed to have smoking? I just can't see myself as that important TBH. I don't like rave music but if I go into a pub playing it I'm humble enough to leave and find some other pub.

In the end if it's a venue of which there is a limited amount in an area (ie casino/ciinema) I can understand the ban, but if there 3 pubs on a street why should NONE of them offer people doing something legal & taxed? And to attempt to ban smoking outside..... damn the puritan/pretctionist/nanny state we've become. You'd need to laugh because it could make you cry.


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: Rod Paradise on July 01, 2009, 03:01:42 PM
As a non-smoker I think this is a pile of shite... FFS IF the governement would give up their huge haul from the tax on tobacco then I'd believe they were serious in trying to ban it.

Leave people alone. They banned smoking in pubs and now you can smell every fart, bit of BO & you can see the people in the place - they all looked better through a smokey haze!!!

Leave it as an open choice (remember them) and pubs put up a sign to say they are smoking or non-smoking - job done. And I'd rather second hand smoke than the non-smoker doing the 'cough cough, handwaving' pish they do to show their disapproval of smokers.



I'd rather put up with the odour then die of lung cancer TYVM

Or go to another pub? Seriously the risk is overplayed anyway FFS. How many old smokers are there? Plenty. If a bit of tobacco smoke cleans up the species by eliminating weak lunged people with a flimsy DNA then it's just darwinism in action anyway.

Darwinsm also selects ignorant twats for elimination too don't forget.

And the government keeps bringing in laws to prevent it too. It's just wrong.


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: steeveg on July 01, 2009, 03:02:30 PM
i can understand people wanting a total ban on somoking if they feel there safety is in danger, it just annoys me when i see a lot idiots causing trouble in town centers due to alchol, they attack innocent people, some just act abusive and threatining, nothing seems to be done to stop this but  i am told i cant light a ciggie ,seems prorities are wrong sometimes,the sooner society starts to not just pick on easy targets the better.


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: WarBwastard on July 01, 2009, 03:06:50 PM
As a non-smoker I think this is a pile of shite... FFS IF the governement would give up their huge haul from the tax on tobacco then I'd believe they were serious in trying to ban it.

Leave people alone. They banned smoking in pubs and now you can smell every fart, bit of BO & you can see the people in the place - they all looked better through a smokey haze!!!

Leave it as an open choice (remember them) and pubs put up a sign to say they are smoking or non-smoking - job done. And I'd rather second hand smoke than the non-smoker doing the 'cough cough, handwaving' pish they do to show their disapproval of smokers.



I'd rather put up with the odour then die of lung cancer TYVM

Or go to another pub? Seriously the risk is overplayed anyway FFS. How many old smokers are there? Plenty. If a bit of tobacco smoke cleans up the species by eliminating weak lunged people with a flimsy DNA then it's just darwinism in action anyway.

Darwinsm also selects ignorant twats for elimination too don't forget.

And the government keeps bringing in laws to prevent it too. It's just wrong.

So this is one of the many areas our Government has a duplicitous and hypocritical approach to.  You can make that point without implying weak lunged people deserve to die anyway.


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: Tuffster on July 01, 2009, 03:12:23 PM
As a smoker, I was in favour of the ban inside pubs, fair enough, it gets cold outside in the winter, but hey ho, if it prevents bar workers from picking up secondary smoke then I'm all in favour of it.

It's the bloody sanctimonious non-smokers who really tilt me, the ones who move into your area whilst you are enjoying a cigarette and then request you put it out. Grrrrrr. A classic example, I'm leaning against the (outside) of an empty bus-stop in Central London awaiting my number 25 to finally turn up, so I thought I'd try Murphy's Law and light a fag to get the bus to arrive. No such luck, however a woman with a pushchair toddles up to my otherwise empty bus stop, stands within 3 feet of me and then looks at me with with hate filled eyes and asks me to "put out that f**king disgusting fag as it's harming my beautiful baby". WTF, I turned to look at her, took another drag on my fag and calmly told her feck off and if she was that worried about my smoke; a) stand INSIDE the bus shelter, b) worry more about the car pollution affecting little babies lungs or c) stop being such a stupid cow.

/rant


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: boldie on July 01, 2009, 03:14:42 PM
As a non-smoker I think this is a pile of shite... FFS IF the governement would give up their huge haul from the tax on tobacco then I'd believe they were serious in trying to ban it.

Leave people alone. They banned smoking in pubs and now you can smell every fart, bit of BO & you can see the people in the place - they all looked better through a smokey haze!!!

Leave it as an open choice (remember them) and pubs put up a sign to say they are smoking or non-smoking - job done. And I'd rather second hand smoke than the non-smoker doing the 'cough cough, handwaving' pish they do to show their disapproval of smokers.



I'd rather put up with the odour then die of lung cancer TYVM

Or go to another pub? Seriously the risk is overplayed anyway FFS. How many old smokers are there? Plenty. If a bit of tobacco smoke cleans up the species by eliminating weak lunged people with a flimsy DNA then it's just darwinism in action anyway.

Darwinsm also selects ignorant twats for elimination too don't forget.

And the government keeps bringing in laws to prevent it too. It's just wrong.

So this is one of the many areas our Government has a duplicitous and hypocritical approach to.  You can make that point without implying weak lunged people deserve to die anyway.

lol@ the sensitivity. I thought it was obvious it wasn't meant literally.


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: George2Loose on July 01, 2009, 03:15:29 PM
As a non-smoker I think this is a pile of shite... FFS IF the governement would give up their huge haul from the tax on tobacco then I'd believe they were serious in trying to ban it.

Leave people alone. They banned smoking in pubs and now you can smell every fart, bit of BO & you can see the people in the place - they all looked better through a smokey haze!!!

Leave it as an open choice (remember them) and pubs put up a sign to say they are smoking or non-smoking - job done. And I'd rather second hand smoke than the non-smoker doing the 'cough cough, handwaving' pish they do to show their disapproval of smokers.



I'd rather put up with the odour then die of lung cancer TYVM

Or go to another pub? Seriously the risk is overplayed anyway FFS. How many old smokers are there? Plenty. If a bit of tobacco smoke cleans up the species by eliminating weak lunged people with a flimsy DNA then it's just darwinism in action anyway.

I think I love you.

Disagree. Why should I have to go elsewhere? Smoke if you want. But I don't want to put up with ta.

Also I remember coming home after a night out or even a game of poker stinking of smoke- I'd rather not have that.

I can also take my kids to numberous pubs/restuarants etc without having them put up with passive smoking

Overplayed or not- people die of passive smoking. It shouldn't happen and now that we have a reasonable ban in place it will happen less which can only be a good thing

Hang on though, your premise here is that because YOU don't like smoking in a premises NO premise in the country should be allowed to have smoking? I just can't see myself as that important TBH. I don't like rave music but if I go into a pub playing it I'm humble enough to leave and find some other pub.

In the end if it's a venue of which there is a limited amount in an area (ie casino/ciinema) I can understand the ban, but if there 3 pubs on a street why should NONE of them offer people doing something legal & taxed? And to attempt to ban smoking outside..... damn the puritan/pretctionist/nanny state we've become. You'd need to laugh because it could make you cry.

How many people have died from passive rave music?

How many pubs were non smoking pre the smoking ban?

Passive smoking is a killer- I'm not in favour of banning smoking or smoking in the open air. The current ban makes sense.


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: WarBwastard on July 01, 2009, 03:22:11 PM
As a non-smoker I think this is a pile of shite... FFS IF the governement would give up their huge haul from the tax on tobacco then I'd believe they were serious in trying to ban it.

Leave people alone. They banned smoking in pubs and now you can smell every fart, bit of BO & you can see the people in the place - they all looked better through a smokey haze!!!

Leave it as an open choice (remember them) and pubs put up a sign to say they are smoking or non-smoking - job done. And I'd rather second hand smoke than the non-smoker doing the 'cough cough, handwaving' pish they do to show their disapproval of smokers.



I'd rather put up with the odour then die of lung cancer TYVM

Or go to another pub? Seriously the risk is overplayed anyway FFS. How many old smokers are there? Plenty. If a bit of tobacco smoke cleans up the species by eliminating weak lunged people with a flimsy DNA then it's just darwinism in action anyway.

Darwinsm also selects ignorant twats for elimination too don't forget.

And the government keeps bringing in laws to prevent it too. It's just wrong.

So this is one of the many areas our Government has a duplicitous and hypocritical approach to.  You can make that point without implying weak lunged people deserve to die anyway.

lol@ the sensitivity. I thought it was obvious it wasn't meant literally.

FFS I know it's not, but it's still an insensitive thing to say.  You might need weak lungs and flimsy DNA to appreciate why though.


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: boldie on July 01, 2009, 03:23:37 PM
I have no problem with banning smoking in doors (although I think that if there was a market for non-smoking pubs they already would have existed before the smoking ban) but to say that people are not allowed to smoke outdoors is ridiculous IMO.

I also don't like people driving in cities and towns as cars pollute the air as well...can we please stop that as well?

It's ridiculous, there used to be a time when smokers and non-smokers just worked shit out; In the workplace and pretty much everywhere. Non-smokinjg H&S are in charge now..so no more working out.



Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: Rod Paradise on July 01, 2009, 03:28:09 PM
As a non-smoker I think this is a pile of shite... FFS IF the governement would give up their huge haul from the tax on tobacco then I'd believe they were serious in trying to ban it.

Leave people alone. They banned smoking in pubs and now you can smell every fart, bit of BO & you can see the people in the place - they all looked better through a smokey haze!!!

Leave it as an open choice (remember them) and pubs put up a sign to say they are smoking or non-smoking - job done. And I'd rather second hand smoke than the non-smoker doing the 'cough cough, handwaving' pish they do to show their disapproval of smokers.



I'd rather put up with the odour then die of lung cancer TYVM

Or go to another pub? Seriously the risk is overplayed anyway FFS. How many old smokers are there? Plenty. If a bit of tobacco smoke cleans up the species by eliminating weak lunged people with a flimsy DNA then it's just darwinism in action anyway.

Darwinsm also selects ignorant twats for elimination too don't forget.

And the government keeps bringing in laws to prevent it too. It's just wrong.

So this is one of the many areas our Government has a duplicitous and hypocritical approach to.  You can make that point without implying weak lunged people deserve to die anyway.

Indeed, like you could have showed your lack of humour without indulging in flaming and insults, which I pretended not to notice.

[  ] I meant it.
[X] I've had lung problems since childhood.


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: Rod Paradise on July 01, 2009, 03:30:39 PM
As a non-smoker I think this is a pile of shite... FFS IF the governement would give up their huge haul from the tax on tobacco then I'd believe they were serious in trying to ban it.

Leave people alone. They banned smoking in pubs and now you can smell every fart, bit of BO & you can see the people in the place - they all looked better through a smokey haze!!!

Leave it as an open choice (remember them) and pubs put up a sign to say they are smoking or non-smoking - job done. And I'd rather second hand smoke than the non-smoker doing the 'cough cough, handwaving' pish they do to show their disapproval of smokers.



I'd rather put up with the odour then die of lung cancer TYVM

Or go to another pub? Seriously the risk is overplayed anyway FFS. How many old smokers are there? Plenty. If a bit of tobacco smoke cleans up the species by eliminating weak lunged people with a flimsy DNA then it's just darwinism in action anyway.

Darwinsm also selects ignorant twats for elimination too don't forget.

And the government keeps bringing in laws to prevent it too. It's just wrong.

So this is one of the many areas our Government has a duplicitous and hypocritical approach to.  You can make that point without implying weak lunged people deserve to die anyway.

lol@ the sensitivity. I thought it was obvious it wasn't meant literally.

FFS I know it's not, but it's still an insensitive thing to say.  You might need weak lungs and flimsy DNA to appreciate why though.

Still lolling at the over-sensitivity though. Or do you want a blanket ban on all jokes that might be a bit insensitive now as well?


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: lazaroonie on July 01, 2009, 03:35:15 PM
sad and pathetic.

i remember all the hoohaa at the the time of the smoking ban, with all these arseholes who had never been in a pub in their life proclaiming that they would now enjoy going to pubs, because they were clean.

guess what ? they have stopped going again. They have found some other pathetic thing that they dont like about pubs to use as an excuse for not going.

take a drive/walk/cycle through any small town these days and count the number of for sale boards up on pubs. You can also go into most pubs and get your pick of where to sit, since they are being deserted in droves. hundred of pubs are closing every month.

in all seriousness, as a smoker, I wouldnt mind if the government was serious about it - in which case ban it completely. But we all know if they did that, then the economy would completely collapse. So despite all their words and posturing, they are as dependant on the smokers and I am on the marlboro.



Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: WarBwastard on July 01, 2009, 03:37:49 PM
As a non-smoker I think this is a pile of shite... FFS IF the governement would give up their huge haul from the tax on tobacco then I'd believe they were serious in trying to ban it.

Leave people alone. They banned smoking in pubs and now you can smell every fart, bit of BO & you can see the people in the place - they all looked better through a smokey haze!!!

Leave it as an open choice (remember them) and pubs put up a sign to say they are smoking or non-smoking - job done. And I'd rather second hand smoke than the non-smoker doing the 'cough cough, handwaving' pish they do to show their disapproval of smokers.



I'd rather put up with the odour then die of lung cancer TYVM

Or go to another pub? Seriously the risk is overplayed anyway FFS. How many old smokers are there? Plenty. If a bit of tobacco smoke cleans up the species by eliminating weak lunged people with a flimsy DNA then it's just darwinism in action anyway.

Darwinsm also selects ignorant twats for elimination too don't forget.

And the government keeps bringing in laws to prevent it too. It's just wrong.

So this is one of the many areas our Government has a duplicitous and hypocritical approach to.  You can make that point without implying weak lunged people deserve to die anyway.

lol@ the sensitivity. I thought it was obvious it wasn't meant literally.

FFS I know it's not, but it's still an insensitive thing to say.  You might need weak lungs and flimsy DNA to appreciate why though.

Still lolling at the over-sensitivity though. Or do you want a blanket ban on all jokes that might be a bit insensitive now as well?

I don't want a ban on anything, not even smoking ironically, but I'm still allowed to be offended if I don't like the joke and say so.    


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: George2Loose on July 01, 2009, 03:41:35 PM
sad and pathetic.

i remember all the hoohaa at the the time of the smoking ban, with all these arseholes who had never been in a pub in their life proclaiming that they would now enjoy going to pubs, because they were clean.

guess what ? they have stopped going again. They have found some other pathetic thing that they dont like about pubs to use as an excuse for not going.

take a drive/walk/cycle through any small town these days and count the number of for sale boards up on pubs. You can also go into most pubs and get your pick of where to sit, since they are being deserted in droves. hundred of pubs are closing every month.

in all seriousness, as a smoker, I wouldnt mind if the government was serious about it - in which case ban it completely. But we all know if they did that, then the economy would completely collapse. So despite all their words and posturing, they are as dependant on the smokers and I am on the marlboro.



haha not biased at all......

People who smoke obv want to smoke where u want

People who don't- don't want to subject themselves to lung cancer

A total ban would be unfair- I still maintain the current ban is fair for all. Kill yourself if you want to- don't take others with you imo


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: boldie on July 01, 2009, 03:43:09 PM
sad and pathetic.

i remember all the hoohaa at the the time of the smoking ban, with all these arseholes who had never been in a pub in their life proclaiming that they would now enjoy going to pubs, because they were clean.

guess what ? they have stopped going again. They have found some other pathetic thing that they dont like about pubs to use as an excuse for not going.

take a drive/walk/cycle through any small town these days and count the number of for sale boards up on pubs. You can also go into most pubs and get your pick of where to sit, since they are being deserted in droves. hundred of pubs are closing every month.

in all seriousness, as a smoker, I wouldnt mind if the government was serious about it - in which case ban it completely. But we all know if they did that, then the economy would completely collapse. So despite all their words and posturing, they are as dependant on the smokers and I am on the marlboro.



haha not biased at all......

People who smoke obv want to smoke where u want

People who don't- don't want to subject themselves to lung cancer

A total ban would be unfair- I still maintain the current ban is fair for all. Kill yourself if you want to- don't take others with you imo

this for me.


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: Rod Paradise on July 01, 2009, 03:45:09 PM
As a non-smoker I think this is a pile of shite... FFS IF the governement would give up their huge haul from the tax on tobacco then I'd believe they were serious in trying to ban it.

Leave people alone. They banned smoking in pubs and now you can smell every fart, bit of BO & you can see the people in the place - they all looked better through a smokey haze!!!

Leave it as an open choice (remember them) and pubs put up a sign to say they are smoking or non-smoking - job done. And I'd rather second hand smoke than the non-smoker doing the 'cough cough, handwaving' pish they do to show their disapproval of smokers.



I'd rather put up with the odour then die of lung cancer TYVM

Or go to another pub? Seriously the risk is overplayed anyway FFS. How many old smokers are there? Plenty. If a bit of tobacco smoke cleans up the species by eliminating weak lunged people with a flimsy DNA then it's just darwinism in action anyway.

Darwinsm also selects ignorant twats for elimination too don't forget.

And the government keeps bringing in laws to prevent it too. It's just wrong.

So this is one of the many areas our Government has a duplicitous and hypocritical approach to.  You can make that point without implying weak lunged people deserve to die anyway.

lol@ the sensitivity. I thought it was obvious it wasn't meant literally.

FFS I know it's not, but it's still an insensitive thing to say.  You might need weak lungs and flimsy DNA to appreciate why though.

Still lolling at the over-sensitivity though. Or do you want a blanket ban on all jokes that might be a bit insensitive now as well?

I don't want a ban on anything, not even smoking ironically, but I'm still allowed to be offended if I don't like the joke and say so.    

OK, as I'm allowed to be offended by someone calling me a twat, although I'm not allowed to tell him to f*** off.

But run me through your thought process that took that so seriously? You know, when you read that sentence "If a bit of tobacco smoke cleans up the species by eliminating weak lunged people with a flimsy DNA then it's just darwinism in action anyway." did you think 'God, that bastard Rod's advocating a Hitleresque final solution for the atshmatics & people prone to cancer, what an ignorant twat'?

If I'd said we should release tigers into the street to reduce the number of fat people would you have taken it seriously as well? Applogies to the gravitationally challenged among us, this is not a call to have you hunted and eaten by big stripy cats, but purely the obvious use of hyperbole to exagerate a point in a humourous manner.


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: WarBwastard on July 01, 2009, 03:47:58 PM
sad and pathetic.

i remember all the hoohaa at the the time of the smoking ban, with all these arseholes who had never been in a pub in their life proclaiming that they would now enjoy going to pubs, because they were clean.

guess what ? they have stopped going again. They have found some other pathetic thing that they dont like about pubs to use as an excuse for not going.

take a drive/walk/cycle through any small town these days and count the number of for sale boards up on pubs. You can also go into most pubs and get your pick of where to sit, since they are being deserted in droves. hundred of pubs are closing every month.

in all seriousness, as a smoker, I wouldnt mind if the government was serious about it - in which case ban it completely. But we all know if they did that, then the economy would completely collapse. So despite all their words and posturing, they are as dependant on the smokers and I am on the marlboro.



haha not biased at all......

People who smoke obv want to smoke where u want

People who don't- don't want to subject themselves to lung cancer

A total ban would be unfair- I still maintain the current ban is fair for all. Kill yourself if you want to- don't take others with you imo

this for me.

The ironic thing about banning smoking in pubs is alcohol kills more people than cigarettes.  I've never asked anyone to stop smoking and never had a problem with not going to certain pubs because I knew they'd be smokey as I felt I'd sound a bit daft asking someone not to blow their cancerous smoke in my face while I was busy saturating my liver with German lager and poisoning my blood stream with shots of Turkish whiskey.


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: EvilPie on July 01, 2009, 03:48:25 PM

take a drive/walk/cycle through any small town these days and count the number of for sale boards up on pubs. You can also go into most pubs and get your pick of where to sit, since they are being deserted in droves. hundred of pubs are closing every month.


This is nothing to do with the smoking ban. It is because lots of greedy people opened lots of new pubs when the economy was booming and lots of people had lots of disposable income.

Now that people have less disposable income they don't go to pubs as much because they can't afford it, hence some pubs have to close.

In fact if they banned smoking completely I suspect pubs would be better off because previous smokers who now had more disposable income would need an alternative. The pub for half a mild seems the perfect substitute.


in all seriousness, as a smoker, I wouldnt mind if the government was serious about it - in which case ban it completely. But we all know if they did that, then the economy would completely collapse. So despite all their words and posturing, they are as dependant on the smokers and I am on the marlboro.


Not sure about this either. The social costs of smoking are huge hence the reason for taxing it so highly.

Just picking up all the dirty fag ends that get thrown on the floor must cost councils thousands every year.

The strain on the NHS because of smoking obviously makes this pale in to insignificance as that must run in to billions.


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: david3103 on July 01, 2009, 03:49:24 PM
This quote from the Middlesbrough Theatre website

Smoking Policy: Smoking is not permitted in or near the theatre. (my bold)

This means that to smoke you have to stand more than 5yards from ashtrays fixed to the wall at the front of the building ....


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: dik9 on July 01, 2009, 03:49:50 PM
So the weathers picked up and the non smokers are pissed all the smokers are sitting on the same chairs in the beer garden that we sat on in the winter when it was snowing.

When it's raining they will forget about it again.


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: TheChipPrince on July 01, 2009, 03:53:04 PM
Seriously, who smokes these days, if people are dumb enough to smoke their way to a quicker death gl to them...


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: Colchester Kev on July 01, 2009, 03:56:30 PM
Seriously, who smokes these days, if people are dumb enough to smoke their way to a quicker death gl to them...

Shake hands with us dumb smokers, for without us you would be paying shit loads more in tax in various forms.


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: lazaroonie on July 01, 2009, 03:57:18 PM

Not sure about this either. The social costs of smoking are huge hence the reason for taxing it so highly.

Just picking up all the dirty fag ends that get thrown on the floor must cost councils thousands every year.

The strain on the NHS because of smoking obviously makes this pale in to insignificance as that must run in to billions.


cost to nhs of smoking related treatments - 1.7billion

income raised from smoking taxes - 12 billion.


yup, a huge strain.



Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: WarBwastard on July 01, 2009, 03:57:37 PM
As a non-smoker I think this is a pile of shite... FFS IF the governement would give up their huge haul from the tax on tobacco then I'd believe they were serious in trying to ban it.

Leave people alone. They banned smoking in pubs and now you can smell every fart, bit of BO & you can see the people in the place - they all looked better through a smokey haze!!!

Leave it as an open choice (remember them) and pubs put up a sign to say they are smoking or non-smoking - job done. And I'd rather second hand smoke than the non-smoker doing the 'cough cough, handwaving' pish they do to show their disapproval of smokers.



I'd rather put up with the odour then die of lung cancer TYVM

Or go to another pub? Seriously the risk is overplayed anyway FFS. How many old smokers are there? Plenty. If a bit of tobacco smoke cleans up the species by eliminating weak lunged people with a flimsy DNA then it's just darwinism in action anyway.

Darwinsm also selects ignorant twats for elimination too don't forget.

And the government keeps bringing in laws to prevent it too. It's just wrong.

So this is one of the many areas our Government has a duplicitous and hypocritical approach to.  You can make that point without implying weak lunged people deserve to die anyway.

lol@ the sensitivity. I thought it was obvious it wasn't meant literally.

FFS I know it's not, but it's still an insensitive thing to say.  You might need weak lungs and flimsy DNA to appreciate why though.

Still lolling at the over-sensitivity though. Or do you want a blanket ban on all jokes that might be a bit insensitive now as well?

I don't want a ban on anything, not even smoking ironically, but I'm still allowed to be offended if I don't like the joke and say so.    

OK, as I'm allowed to be offended by someone calling me a twat, although I'm not allowed to tell him to f*** off.

But run me through your thought process that took that so seriously? You know, when you read that sentence "If a bit of tobacco smoke cleans up the species by eliminating weak lunged people with a flimsy DNA then it's just darwinism in action anyway." did you think 'God, that bastard Rod's advocating a Hitleresque final solution for the atshmatics & people prone to cancer, what an ignorant twat'?

If I'd said we should release tigers into the street to reduce the number of fat people would you have taken it seriously as well? Applogies to the gravitationally challenged among us, this is not a call to have you hunted and eaten by big stripy cats, but purely the obvious use of hyperbole to exagerate a point in a humourous manner.

You're more than welcome to tell me to f**k off, shall we just tell each other to f**k off and agree to disagree?  To answer your question, I'm probably more likely to be offended by your original comment as it's obviously more relevant to my circumstances and people in my situation are being killed off by secondary smoke so it's a comment that irks me somewhat..where as it's highly unlikely that fat people will ever be targeted by rampant tigers.  I apologise for calling you a twat though.  



Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: EvilPie on July 01, 2009, 04:10:50 PM
Seriously, who smokes these days, if people are dumb enough to smoke their way to a quicker death gl to them...

Shake hands with us dumb smokers, for without us you would be paying shit loads more in tax in various forms.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8086142.stm

 ;whistle;

Add to this all the other burdens such as time off work (including 15 paid fag breaks per day) cleaning up their leftovers etc. etc. and you can probably take that handshake back.

I'm not anti smoking btw I just don't like it when smokers claim they are saving everyone money because they pay tax on their ciggies.


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: steeveg on July 01, 2009, 04:12:54 PM
Quote
t's highly unlikely that fat people will ever be targeted by rampant tigers.  
not really ,all the fat people will be at the back when the rest of us are running like the clappers


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: TheChipPrince on July 01, 2009, 04:13:30 PM
Seriously, who smokes these days, if people are dumb enough to smoke their way to a quicker death gl to them...

Shake hands with us dumb smokers, for without us you would be paying shit loads more in tax in various forms.

I meant it more in a way that with so many warnings on packets etc, how can people do it to themselves?

It is just the addiction, or do people just not care, 'if i die I die' attitude...


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: Rod Paradise on July 01, 2009, 04:15:44 PM

You're more than welcome to tell me to f**k off, shall we just tell each other to f**k off and agree to disagree?  To answer your question, I'm probably more likely to be offended by your original comment as it's obviously more relevant to my circumstances and people in my situation are being killed off by secondary smoke so it's a comment that irks me somewhat..where as it's highly unlikely that fat people will ever be targeted by rampant tigers.  I apologise for calling you a twat though. 



Right, to draw a line under a spat over an off the cuff remark. I'm sorry you have lung trouble, I'm asthmatic & while thankfully I'm not too bad now I'd a few spells in hospital as a kid, it's a scary thing when you have an attack as well. My Grandad died of silicosis too, so I'm not totally insensitive to respiratory problems. I'm not going to withdraw the gag though becasue it seems pretty obvious to me that it wasn't a serious attack on anyone, just a ridiculous exageration.

I do however have my doubts about the number of people killed by secondary smoke. If smoking is the problem why have the incidences of asthma gone up considerably while smoking is on the wane?

There are large claims of the number killed by passive smoking, but they all seem to be from the anti-smoking lobby or the politicians introducing the legislation. Even the doctor who proved the link between smoking and lung cancer said that the effect of secondary smoke was too small to worry him. The effect of a walk through a city centre in rush hour is likely to more dangerous than sitting in a smoky pub for the same time. (Indeed they did test on a non-smoking pub ona a main street in Glasgow City centre & a smoking pub down a side street with good ventilation & the air was healthier in the smoking pub). Since the legislators and the anti-smoking lobby made such a hoo-haa about it that it's logical I suppose for people to be worried, but I don't think it justifies a total ban, if there's 2 pubs on a street, let them compete for a smoking license - one gets it & there's a choice, and to ban smoking in the street outside the premises is nonsense.



Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: Colchester Kev on July 01, 2009, 04:15:55 PM
Seriously, who smokes these days, if people are dumb enough to smoke their way to a quicker death gl to them...

Shake hands with us dumb smokers, for without us you would be paying shit loads more in tax in various forms.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8086142.stm

 ;whistle;

Add to this all the other burdens such as time off work (including 15 paid fag breaks per day) cleaning up their leftovers etc. etc. and you can probably take that handshake back.

I'm not anti smoking btw I just don't like it when smokers claim they are saving everyone money because they pay tax on their ciggies.

A separate paper published by the team in the Journal of Public Health found that alcohol consumption costs the UK NHS £3bn.

never let it be said that poker players are tax dodgers :D


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: Claw75 on July 01, 2009, 04:17:24 PM
Seriously, who smokes these days, if people are dumb enough to smoke their way to a quicker death gl to them...

Shake hands with us dumb smokers, for without us you would be paying shit loads more in tax in various forms.

I meant it more in a way that with so many warnings on packets etc, how can people do it to themselves?

It is just the addiction, or do people just not care, 'if i die I die' attitude...


addiction for me.  if it was as easy to take or leave as, say a bar of chocolate, I'd not be poisoning my body with chemicals that I can't afford to buy.


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: Josedinho on July 01, 2009, 04:31:03 PM
Interesting thread. Release the tigers i say. I'm pretty confident of surviving despite my weight but i'd be interested in seeing the experiment work.


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: CelticGeezeer on July 01, 2009, 04:53:28 PM
This is shows just how addiction can affect behavior


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4570665.stm


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: trafficjam on July 01, 2009, 05:30:25 PM


 I want to ban stupid-menstrual-semi-feminist-fat-slappers from telly. (This includes Kyle and Vine)


Hmm it is obvious you do not watch the programme!  I find your observations insulting!


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: thetank on July 01, 2009, 05:44:28 PM
So the weathers picked up and the non smokers are pissed all the smokers are sitting on the same chairs in the beer garden that we sat on in the winter when it was snowing.

When it's raining they will forget about it again.

This


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: boldie on July 01, 2009, 06:03:18 PM


 I want to ban stupid-menstrual-semi-feminist-fat-slappers from telly. (This includes Kyle and Vine)


Hmm it is obvious you do not watch the programme!  I find your observations insulting!

I have sat through about 3 or 4 episodes of the programme. It rates no higher than the Jeremy Kyle show with me..or that annoying phone in thing on Channel5..the Wright stuff.



I also have to laugh @ the whole "secondary smoke thing" in the context of the discussion about smoking outside. Are we now saying that walking past someone exhaling smoke in a well ventilated area (I assume "outside" is well ventilated enough..it being in the open air and all that) will give you lung cancer in the same way that sitting in a smoking room without ventilation (the famous blue cloud hanging in the air) does?

A big load of nonsense.


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: trafficjam on July 01, 2009, 06:24:15 PM


 I want to ban stupid-menstrual-semi-feminist-fat-slappers from telly. (This includes Kyle and Vine)


Hmm it is obvious you do not watch the programme!  I find your observations insulting!

I have sat through about 3 or 4 episodes of the programme. It rates no higher than the Jeremy Kyle show with me..or that annoying phone in thing on Channel5..the Wright stuff.





Goes to show what a sexist person you are as none of the women on that show are a) stupid, b) semi-feminist c) fat ( what is wrong with that) and d) being slappers well, how would you know, do you know them personally? and finally c) menstrual, yes you got that right, and if women were not menstral you wouldn't be here!!!!

I thought this was a nice forum with friendly people who can have a good debate and can be rude to each other in a friendly fashion but you have overstepped the mark with your degrading views of women!


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: byronkincaid on July 01, 2009, 06:37:04 PM


 I want to ban stupid-menstrual-semi-feminist-fat-slappers from telly. (This includes Kyle and Vine)


Hmm it is obvious you do not watch the programme!  I find your observations insulting!

I have sat through about 3 or 4 episodes of the programme. It rates no higher than the Jeremy Kyle show with me..or that annoying phone in thing on Channel5..the Wright stuff.





Goes to show what a sexist person you are as none of the women on that show are a) stupid, b) semi-feminist c) fat ( what is wrong with that) and d) being slappers well, how would you know, do you know them personally? and finally c) menstrual, yes you got that right, and if women were not menstral you wouldn't be here!!!!

I thought this was a nice forum with friendly people who can have a good debate and can be rude to each other in a friendly fashion but you have overstepped the mark with your degrading views of women!


ban boldie the insulting german sexist pig!

was wondering while cooking dinner how they get the figures for smoking costs the nhs £X. seems like it would be almost impossible to get an accurate figure but obv I'm not a statistician so wadda I know



Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: Colchester Kev on July 01, 2009, 06:47:37 PM


 I want to ban stupid-menstrual-semi-feminist-fat-slappers from telly. (This includes Kyle and Vine)


Hmm it is obvious you do not watch the programme!  I find your observations insulting!

I have sat through about 3 or 4 episodes of the programme. It rates no higher than the Jeremy Kyle show with me..or that annoying phone in thing on Channel5..the Wright stuff.





Goes to show what a sexist person you are as none of the women on that show are a) stupid, b) semi-feminist c) fat ( what is wrong with that) and d) being slappers well, how would you know, do you know them personally? and finally c) menstrual, yes you got that right, and if women were not menstral you wouldn't be here!!!!

I thought this was a nice forum with friendly people who can have a good debate and can be rude to each other in a friendly fashion but you have overstepped the mark with your degrading views of women!


ban boldie the insulting german sexist pig!

was wondering while cooking dinner how they get the figures for smoking costs the nhs £X. seems like it would be almost impossible to get an accurate figure but obv I'm not a statistician so wadda I know



Womans job innit ??


Thats what boldie told me, and in no way reflects the views of my good self ;)


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: nirvana on July 01, 2009, 07:09:38 PM
I like the system in Florida - anywhere serving food - total smoking ban. Nightlcubs and the like, total ban. Places that are bars only are allowed to allow smoking.

People then have choices and supply and demand will take care of which venues will succeed.

In that scenario, I then don't have to give a rats arse about the 'rights' of non-smokers (employees or patrons) who would then choose to spend time in 'my' smoking venue over 'their' non smoking venue. Equally I wouldn't go to a non smoking venue and insist I should be allowed to smoke.

Just allow choice imo and let the market take care of the rest



Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: Ironside on July 01, 2009, 07:33:01 PM

take a drive/walk/cycle through any small town these days and count the number of for sale boards up on pubs. You can also go into most pubs and get your pick of where to sit, since they are being deserted in droves. hundred of pubs are closing every month.


This is nothing to do with the smoking ban. It is because lots of greedy people opened lots of new pubs when the economy was booming and lots of people had lots of disposable income.





wrong the decline in the pubs happened along time before the downturn in the econmy with people prefering to stay at home with a beer and a smoke than goto the pub
then all the non smkoers decided not to goto the pub as there was no one there

smoking ban is actually going to do more harm than good as many people will now be smoking at home infront of there kids when before they would disapear to the pub for a smoke


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: Somerled on July 01, 2009, 07:37:23 PM
Nah, the decline in pubs has been going on long before the smoking ban came in. The big pubcos (Punch, Enterprise etc..) have a lot more to do with the decline imo, along with cheap supermarket booze and big brewers knackering the market. All these "Fancy" "Foreign" lagers which are just cheap shite sold under a fancy badge and clever branding.


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: sovietsong on July 01, 2009, 07:41:23 PM
Ban bacon, alcohol, and butter, I know I can't die from passive bacon, alcohol and butter intake however watching other people eat such things makes me want to and how can I be blamed for my own lack of self discipline.



Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: Colchester Kev on July 01, 2009, 08:01:26 PM
Ban bacon, alcohol, and butter, I know I can't die from passive bacon, alcohol and butter intake however watching other people eat such things makes me want to and how can I be blamed for my own lack of self discipline.



FML ... just had a bacon sarnie with butter, now having a bottle of beer and a smoke.


will i die tonight ??


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: Ironside on July 01, 2009, 08:02:30 PM


How many people have died from passive rave music?



not many died but a few hundred thousand are disabled through it every year and those numbers will increase as people get older as the damage is irreversible even if its not showing yet


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: sovietsong on July 01, 2009, 08:03:48 PM
Ban bacon, alcohol, and butter, I know I can't die from passive bacon, alcohol and butter intake however watching other people eat such things makes me want to and how can I be blamed for my own lack of self discipline.



FML ... just had a bacon sarnie with butter, now having a bottle of beer and a smoke.


will i die tonight ??

I hope so....where the fk is my tshirt.


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: Colchester Kev on July 01, 2009, 08:12:42 PM
Ban bacon, alcohol, and butter, I know I can't die from passive bacon, alcohol and butter intake however watching other people eat such things makes me want to and how can I be blamed for my own lack of self discipline.



FML ... just had a bacon sarnie with butter, now having a bottle of beer and a smoke.


will i die tonight ??

I hope so....where the fk is my tshirt.

I am gonna be cremated in it.

If you PM me your address, I will send you a couple of blonde badges as compensation :)


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: Claw75 on July 01, 2009, 08:20:24 PM
Ban bacon, alcohol, and butter, I know I can't die from passive bacon, alcohol and butter intake however watching other people eat such things makes me want to and how can I be blamed for my own lack of self discipline.



FML ... just had a bacon sarnie with butter, now having a bottle of beer and a smoke.


will i die tonight ??

I hope so....where the fk is my tshirt.

I am gonna be cremated in it.

If you PM me your address, I will send you a couple of blonde badges as compensation :)

no no no - please put it in your will that you want to be cremated in a blonde shirt with 'bolt pp' written on it


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: henrik777 on July 01, 2009, 08:29:05 PM
Anybody standing in a doorway should be shot often with the largest calibre bullets available.

Why do most people actually not know what a doorway is for ? If people didn't need to go in and out the builders would have used bricks !!! Get out of the bloody way.

Sandy


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: boldie on July 01, 2009, 08:35:11 PM


 I want to ban stupid-menstrual-semi-feminist-fat-slappers from telly. (This includes Kyle and Vine)


Hmm it is obvious you do not watch the programme!  I find your observations insulting!

I have sat through about 3 or 4 episodes of the programme. It rates no higher than the Jeremy Kyle show with me..or that annoying phone in thing on Channel5..the Wright stuff.





Goes to show what a sexist person you are as none of the women on that show are a) stupid, b) semi-feminist c) fat ( what is wrong with that) and d) being slappers well, how would you know, do you know them personally? and finally c) menstrual, yes you got that right, and if women were not menstral you wouldn't be here!!!!

I thought this was a nice forum with friendly people who can have a good debate and can be rude to each other in a friendly fashion but you have overstepped the mark with your degrading views of women!


I don't have a degrading view of women in general. Just these women (and Oprah type women)..in the same way that I don't hate all man for thinking Jeremy Vine and Jeremy Kyle and Mr Wright are all lowlife-scraemongering- assholes that pander to the racist and unemployed.


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: StuartHopkin on July 01, 2009, 08:48:35 PM
If I own a pub, i employee some smokers who love to smoke, and i pay my taxes and create their taxable positions why the hell should I be told that people cannot smoke in my pub?

I really dont understand why they are aloud to tell you what to do with your own business/building.

People who dont want to smoke dont come in and definately dont apply for a job.

Most pubs are closing because they are badly run imo.


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: Jon MW on July 01, 2009, 09:07:40 PM
If I own a pub, i employee some smokers who love to smoke, and i pay my taxes and create their taxable positions why the hell should I be told that people cannot smoke in my pub?

I really dont understand why they are aloud to tell you what to do with your own business/building.

People who dont want to smoke dont come in and definately dont apply for a job.

Most pubs are closing because they are badly run imo.

So you'll be discriminating against non-smokers in your employment?

The best possible person for the job won't necessarily get the job?

And no, most pubs close because it costs so much more to go out then it does to buy from the supermarket.


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: thetank on July 01, 2009, 10:17:22 PM
lol @ boldie gettin' it


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: Claw75 on July 01, 2009, 10:20:54 PM
lol @ boldie gettin' it

+1 :D

If that's boldie's opinion of the loose women, god knows what he makes of us lot on here!  ;scarymoment;


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: taximan007 on July 01, 2009, 10:22:10 PM
smoke AND fat, not much hope really...................


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: trafficjam on July 01, 2009, 10:25:35 PM


 I want to ban stupid-menstrual-semi-feminist-fat-slappers from telly. (This includes Kyle and Vine)


Hmm it is obvious you do not watch the programme!  I find your observations insulting!

I have sat through about 3 or 4 episodes of the programme. It rates no higher than the Jeremy Kyle show with me..or that annoying phone in thing on Channel5..the Wright stuff.





Goes to show what a sexist person you are as none of the women on that show are a) stupid, b) semi-feminist c) fat ( what is wrong with that) and d) being slappers well, how would you know, do you know them personally? and finally c) menstrual, yes you got that right, and if women were not menstrual you wouldn't be here!!!!

I thought this was a nice forum with friendly people who can have a good debate and can be rude to each other in a friendly fashion but you have overstepped the mark with your degrading views of women!


I don't have a degrading view of women in general. Just these women (and Oprah type women)..in the same way that I don't hate all man for thinking Jeremy Vine and Jeremy Kyle and Mr Wright are all lowlife-scraemongering- assholes that pander to the racist and unemployed.

That's where you cannot have seen the programme properly. Loose Women is not a programme typical of Jeremy Kyle etc (a programme which I think is distasteful and would not watch), the programme is given that name as it is a programme about women's chatter and they discuss all sorts of subjects and not necessarily those about women and mainly subjects that are in the news.  I agree some of their subjects are a bit saucy but no more than what I have seen here on this forum which have been posted.

What I disagree with your post was the language you used in such a derogatory way which is quite unacceptable!  I ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr;

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Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: thetank on July 01, 2009, 10:29:18 PM
lol @ boldie gettin' it

+1 :D

If that's boldie's opinion of the loose women, god knows what he makes of us lot on here!  ;scarymoment;

He's a bad egg


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: Claw75 on July 01, 2009, 10:29:56 PM
smoke AND fat, not much hope really...................

lol join the club Taxi - me, you and half the forum I think!


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: pokerfan on July 01, 2009, 10:36:41 PM


 I want to ban stupid-menstrual-semi-feminist-fat-slappers from telly. (This includes Kyle and Vine)


Hmm it is obvious you do not watch the programme!  I find your observations insulting!

I have sat through about 3 or 4 episodes of the programme. It rates no higher than the Jeremy Kyle show with me..or that annoying phone in thing on Channel5..the Wright stuff.





Goes to show what a sexist person you are as none of the women on that show are a) stupid, b) semi-feminist c) fat ( what is wrong with that) and d) being slappers well, how would you know, do you know them personally? and finally c) menstrual, yes you got that right, and if women were not menstrual you wouldn't be here!!!!

I thought this was a nice forum with friendly people who can have a good debate and can be rude to each other in a friendly fashion but you have overstepped the mark with your degrading views of women!


I don't have a degrading view of women in general. Just these women (and Oprah type women)..in the same way that I don't hate all man for thinking Jeremy Vine and Jeremy Kyle and Mr Wright are all lowlife-scraemongering- assholes that pander to the racist and unemployed.

That's where you cannot have seen the programme properly. Loose Women is not a programme typical of Jeremy Kyle etc (a programme which I think is distasteful and would not watch), the programme is given that name as it is a programme about women's chatter and they discuss all sorts of subjects and not necessarily those about women and mainly subjects that are in the news.  I agree some of their subjects are a bit saucy but no more than what I have seen here on this forum which have been posted.

What I disagree with your post was the language you used in such a derogatory way which is quite unacceptable!  I ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr;

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Dont get your knickers in a twist love he`s German, they have different upbringins to us British folk when it comes to women. Now pop the kettle on and do a bit of ironing that should calm you down.


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: taximan007 on July 01, 2009, 10:47:16 PM
I always wonder how many EX smokers have given up for health reasons, imo MOST have stopped for financial reasons, another reason I love living in the Philippines 200 Malboro £3.23  ;D


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: trafficjam on July 01, 2009, 10:49:13 PM


 I want to ban stupid-menstrual-semi-feminist-fat-slappers from telly. (This includes Kyle and Vine)


Hmm it is obvious you do not watch the programme!  I find your observations insulting!

I have sat through about 3 or 4 episodes of the programme. It rates no higher than the Jeremy Kyle show with me..or that annoying phone in thing on Channel5..the Wright stuff.





Goes to show what a sexist person you are as none of the women on that show are a) stupid, b) semi-feminist c) fat ( what is wrong with that) and d) being slappers well, how would you know, do you know them personally? and finally c) menstrual, yes you got that right, and if women were not menstrual you wouldn't be here!!!!

I thought this was a nice forum with friendly people who can have a good debate and can be rude to each other in a friendly fashion but you have overstepped the mark with your degrading views of women!


I don't have a degrading view of women in general. Just these women (and Oprah type women)..in the same way that I don't hate all man for thinking Jeremy Vine and Jeremy Kyle and Mr Wright are all lowlife-scraemongering- assholes that pander to the racist and unemployed.

That's where you cannot have seen the programme properly. Loose Women is not a programme typical of Jeremy Kyle etc (a programme which I think is distasteful and would not watch), the programme is given that name as it is a programme about women's chatter and they discuss all sorts of subjects and not necessarily those about women and mainly subjects that are in the news.  I agree some of their subjects are a bit saucy but no more than what I have seen here on this forum which have been posted.

What I disagree with your post was the language you used in such a derogatory way which is quite unacceptable!  I ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr;

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Dont get your knickers in a twist love he`s German, they have different upbringins to us British folk when it comes to women. Now pop the kettle on and do a bit of ironing that should calm you down.


 rotflmfao  No wonder!   By the way I don't do the little woman thing, can't you tell, I can give as good as I get!


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: sovietsong on July 01, 2009, 11:03:46 PM
Kev if you want to get cremated in a bolt pp t-shirt, don't worry about putting it in your Will as they are normally read after the funeral. Just let your close family know and that should cover it.

As I have been so helpful could I have a t-shirt, not a blonde one just a nice t-shirt. I'm skint you see...

PS - I don't think the smoking ban or any future bans are a good idea.


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: Girgy85 on July 02, 2009, 02:25:51 PM
Anybody standing in a doorway should be shot often with the largest calibre bullets available.

Why do most people actually not know what a doorway is for ? If people didn't need to go in and out the builders would have used bricks !!! Get out of the bloody way.

Sandy

+1


Title: Re: Smoking to be banned OUTSIDE?
Post by: Rod Paradise on July 02, 2009, 02:32:38 PM
Anybody standing in a doorway should be shot often with the largest calibre bullets available.

Why do most people actually not know what a doorway is for ? If people didn't need to go in and out the builders would have used bricks !!! Get out of the bloody way.

Sandy

+1
I usually find the magic phrase 'excuse me' works & I'm not pushing a fellow drinker out into the rain/cold for any longer than they need be.