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Title: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: david3103 on July 02, 2009, 04:07:58 PM
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Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: TheChipPrince on July 02, 2009, 04:21:17 PM
I haven't even heard him linked with Manure        :dontask:


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: david3103 on July 02, 2009, 04:34:43 PM
I haven't even heard him linked with Manure        :dontask:

Nor had I till this.
Not sure about it tbh, have to be on a per match/per goal pay basis but he'll get plenty chances to do what he does best


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: celtic on July 02, 2009, 04:35:48 PM
Owen will join man u imo.


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: Micko on July 02, 2009, 05:06:18 PM
I think on the right contract it could be a great signing. Hes gonna get so many more chances and be playing with quality be an interesting move.


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: Ironside on July 02, 2009, 05:15:11 PM
4/9 on to go man u

must be a gamble on the exchanges driving the price down IMO

no chance will he be at man u


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: kinboshi on July 02, 2009, 05:22:50 PM
If he goes to man u the low opinion many Liverpool fans have of him will hit rock bottom.

If he remains fit, he'll score goals for anyone.  Big IF though.


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: cambo on July 02, 2009, 05:59:03 PM
4/9 on to go man u

must be a gamble on the exchanges driving the price down IMO

no chance will he be at man u

what? if hes odds on there must be something to this, every chance he'll be at man u


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: Longy on July 02, 2009, 06:03:23 PM
4/9 on to go man u

must be a gamble on the exchanges driving the price down IMO

no chance will he be at man u

Lay that price on the exchanges and profit then imo.


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: cambo on July 02, 2009, 06:10:24 PM
heard earlier on talksport that adebayor is a target for man u, is there any strength in this rumour? what do manu and arsenal fans think of that?


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: Ironside on July 02, 2009, 06:58:18 PM
4/9 on to go man u

must be a gamble on the exchanges driving the price down IMO

no chance will he be at man u

Lay that price on the exchanges and profit then imo.

would if i could afford to lose but i cant so i wont

never gamble with money i cant afford to lose no matter what the odds


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: FuglyBaz on July 02, 2009, 07:45:30 PM
Why would Man Utd want somebody who has been rusty for a few years anyway? Should buy back Saha in my opinion, proved his worth since leaving


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: scotty2hatty on July 02, 2009, 07:46:35 PM
Should buy back Saha in my opinion, proved his worth since leaving

joke obv?


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: dan on July 02, 2009, 07:54:37 PM
heard earlier on talksport that adebayor is a target for man u, is there any strength in this rumour? what do manu and arsenal fans think of that?


I just hope Adybayor goes TBH and I dont even care where, although I would be surprised if it was to Man Utd that wanted him surely they cant afford to have 2 lazy bastards like Berbertov and Adybayor up front.

As for Owen, I wouldnt mind seeing him at Arsenal, like someone said in this thread he will score goals and we could do with a natural finisher even if it was for just half a season.


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: FuglyBaz on July 02, 2009, 08:30:22 PM
Should buy back Saha in my opinion, proved his worth since leaving

joke obv?

You prat, was hoping to get some abuse before saying I was joking! :D


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: George2Loose on July 03, 2009, 12:14:24 AM
save your money iron....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/8131801.stm


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: Ironside on July 03, 2009, 12:35:13 AM
not that i would lay it but there is no market on betfair

driving home tonight i heard on radio 5 that the price is 5-2 which is massive compared to where it was this evening

skybet pulls the market overnight would be intrested in seeing the price in the morning

but i still cant see it


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: Micko on July 03, 2009, 09:11:58 AM
Done deal according to sky sports news.


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: Rookie (Rodney) on July 03, 2009, 09:29:57 AM
Good signing IMO, would have liked to see Chelsea pick him up but nvm.


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: kinboshi on July 03, 2009, 09:44:34 AM
Good signing IMO, would have liked to see Chelsea pick him up but nvm.

Good signing if he can stay fit. 

He'll sure get a nice welcome back at Anfield though :D.


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: pokerfan on July 03, 2009, 10:11:00 AM
Owen under going medical at Old Traffod
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_5412939,00.html


(same shit as George`s link my bad)


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: kinboshi on July 03, 2009, 10:20:16 AM
Owen undergoing a medical.

Wonder if he's as fit/young/healthy as his brochure says.


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: Pawprint on July 03, 2009, 11:35:18 AM
Good signing IMO, would have liked to see Chelsea pick him up but nvm.

Good signing if he can stay fit. 

He'll sure get a nice welcome back at Anfield though :D.

Dan,

What's with the downer on Owen ?

I thought most Liverpool fans still rated him and would have had him back on a freebie, but Rafa has never been keen.

When he left for Real, was it on bad terms then ?

On a free transfer, it seems good business for whoever gets him, which looks like us at the moment.


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: kinboshi on July 03, 2009, 12:10:45 PM
He's a mercenary.  Half the Liverpool fans disowned him long ago, the other half will probably join in with those sentiments now.

Despite his great goalscoring record for us, he was never Liverpool's Michael Owen - always England's Owen.  The adoration that was given to Rush, Aldo, Fowler and now Torres was never quite there for Owen.  His move to Real was fairly sour one, compounded by his supposed eagerness to rejoin us before going to the barcodes.

I think most do rate him as a player, and when he's fit and on form, he's a top class goalscorer.  If man u get him on a pay-per-play basis (which I think it will be?), then it's a shrewd signing.  Not sure he's what you need, but Fergie generally knows what he's doing.


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: pokerfan on July 03, 2009, 12:18:01 PM
He was on 120k @ Newcastle, what ive read reckons 40k @ Man U + mega bonus for goals appearances etc.


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: ScottMGee on July 03, 2009, 03:47:09 PM
Quote
He's a mercenary

+1

I like him turning up in Manchester driven in a BMW despite being sponsored by Jaguar!


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: boldie on July 03, 2009, 04:27:35 PM
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/jim-white/article/9652/

Jimmy White makes sense, me thinks.


About him being a mercenary..lol very hard at that. The guy is looking for a job, should he not go to ManU because he once played for Liverpool? Or because he left to go to Real, the biggest club in the world at that time? Liverpool didn't want him back after he came back from Real and they don't want him now. Owen is doing the best thing for his career ATM..teaming up with Rooney at ManU is the best way for him to get in the frame for the England job again.

Fair play to him for taking a big pay cut and not going to Stoke or some other club where he might make more money (not taking into account bonusses and all that) but going to a team where he can achieve something.


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: Rooky9 on July 03, 2009, 04:31:38 PM
S dI love how the figure he earnt at Newcastle keeps going up and up.

I'll be really really interested to see how he gets on, performance and attitude. I think it's a bit strange because to get back in the England team and break that record (which I think is far and away his top ambition) he'll have to both score and play regularly at club level. I haven't seen much at all that would suggest he'll be doing that at Man U. In terms of pace for a PL player (which sadly is more valuable than actually being able to play football now) he is average at best - perhaps some confidence (or lack of, in his body and game).

I don't feel like I've had value out of my £40 'Owen 10' top, without evening getting to the £38m he cost Newcastle.

GG Michael, enjoy the gambling spin downs.


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: kinboshi on July 03, 2009, 05:08:57 PM
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/jim-white/article/9652/

Jimmy White makes sense, me thinks.


About him being a mercenary..lol very hard at that. The guy is looking for a job, should he not go to ManU because he once played for Liverpool? Or because he left to go to Real, the biggest club in the world at that time? Liverpool didn't want him back after he came back from Real and they don't want him now. Owen is doing the best thing for his career ATM..teaming up with Rooney at ManU is the best way for him to get in the frame for the England job again.

Fair play to him for taking a big pay cut and not going to Stoke or some other club where he might make more money (not taking into account bonusses and all that) but going to a team where he can achieve something.

“We will sort something out amicably next summer,” said Owen. “I won’t just up and leave on a Bosman. I have the rest of this season and all next still left on my existing contract but talks have already started on a new one. Inevitably, they are complex though and don’t get done in just a week. But I certainly see myself at Liverpool next year. Why not? I’m not in football for the money. And that is largely what it means when players sit out their contracts and go for free.”


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: david3103 on July 03, 2009, 05:30:25 PM
S dI love how the figure he earnt at Newcastle keeps going up and up.

I'll be really really interested to see how he gets on, performance and attitude. I think it's a bit strange because to get back in the England team and break that record (which I think is far and away his top ambition) he'll have to both score and play regularly at club level. I haven't seen much at all that would suggest he'll be doing that at Man U. In terms of pace for a PL player (which sadly is more valuable than actually being able to play football now) he is average at best - perhaps some confidence (or lack of, in his body and game).

I don't feel like I've had value out of my £40 'Owen 10' top, without evening getting to the £38m he cost Newcastle.

GG Michael, enjoy the gambling spin downs.

Not sure you ever get value out of a £40 replica shirt, whichever team, whichever player's name goes on it


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: kinboshi on July 03, 2009, 05:31:54 PM
S dI love how the figure he earnt at Newcastle keeps going up and up.

I'll be really really interested to see how he gets on, performance and attitude. I think it's a bit strange because to get back in the England team and break that record (which I think is far and away his top ambition) he'll have to both score and play regularly at club level. I haven't seen much at all that would suggest he'll be doing that at Man U. In terms of pace for a PL player (which sadly is more valuable than actually being able to play football now) he is average at best - perhaps some confidence (or lack of, in his body and game).

I don't feel like I've had value out of my £40 'Owen 10' top, without evening getting to the £38m he cost Newcastle.

GG Michael, enjoy the gambling spin downs.

Not sure you ever get value out of a £40 replica shirt, whichever team, whichever player's name goes on it

Agreed.  Retro shirts FTW.

However, if you get a Vennegoor of Hesselink shirt, then you're at least getting your money's worth in lettering.


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: david3103 on July 03, 2009, 05:43:12 PM
S dI love how the figure he earnt at Newcastle keeps going up and up.

I'll be really really interested to see how he gets on, performance and attitude. I think it's a bit strange because to get back in the England team and break that record (which I think is far and away his top ambition) he'll have to both score and play regularly at club level. I haven't seen much at all that would suggest he'll be doing that at Man U. In terms of pace for a PL player (which sadly is more valuable than actually being able to play football now) he is average at best - perhaps some confidence (or lack of, in his body and game).

I don't feel like I've had value out of my £40 'Owen 10' top, without evening getting to the £38m he cost Newcastle.

GG Michael, enjoy the gambling spin downs.

Not sure you ever get value out of a £40 replica shirt, whichever team, whichever player's name goes on it

Agreed.  Retro shirts FTW.

However, if you get a Vennegoor of Hesselink shirt, then you're at least getting your money's worth in lettering.

I believe the correct way to respond is...

"I lol'd hard at this"

but on reflection, isn't it 10p a letter?


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: Girgy85 on July 03, 2009, 06:20:27 PM
I think its £1 a letter and £4 a number!

So his name and shirt likely to cost you £64 ish!


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: Ironside on July 03, 2009, 06:50:21 PM
well all i can say is fergie must be suffering from oldtimers cause that is a huge mistake IMHO owen will be lucky if he starts in 10 league games next season


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: Pawprint on July 03, 2009, 07:10:33 PM
well all i can say is fergie must be suffering from oldtimers cause that is a huge mistake IMHO owen will be lucky if he starts in 10 league games next season

By the sounds of it, if he plays 10 games, he gets paid for ten games.

Seems good business.


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: boldie on July 03, 2009, 07:34:30 PM
well all i can say is fergie must be suffering from oldtimers cause that is a huge mistake IMHO owen will be lucky if he starts in 10 league games next season

Fergie ussually doesn't get proven wrong...and I'll be surprised if this doesn't turn out to be a clever bit of business.


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: steeveg on July 03, 2009, 07:44:21 PM
shocked ,fergie came in for him, there must be no top players available and he is desperate to stenghthen the squad, Ronaldo gone, Tevez as good as gone,Owen in,lol


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: ACE2M on July 03, 2009, 07:56:47 PM
i think its a great buy, his goal return everywhere is outstanding, just if he stays fit.


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: sovietsong on July 03, 2009, 08:05:53 PM
hope he doesnt get splinters...


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: Ironside on July 03, 2009, 08:21:40 PM
hope he doesnt get splinters...

not much hope of him getting near the bench to get the splinters


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: sovietsong on July 03, 2009, 08:27:15 PM
hope he doesnt get splinters...

not much hope of him getting near the bench to get the splinters

just read a story that Man Utd are trying to coax Darren Anderton out of retirement on a pay as you play scheme...seems they arent worried about there medical bill...


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: pokerfan on July 03, 2009, 09:02:34 PM
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,12040_5414181,0.html
(http://img.skysports.com/09/07/218x298/MichaelOwen_2325092.jpg)


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: Indestructable on July 03, 2009, 09:39:29 PM
i think its a great buy, his goal return everywhere is outstanding, just if he stays fit.

Hate to admit it, but agree with above. Best chance of Owen getting a prem medal and of going to the World Cup.


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: gatso on July 03, 2009, 10:12:32 PM
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,12040_5414181,0.html
(http://img.skysports.com/09/07/218x298/MichaelOwen_2325092.jpg)

kit is awful


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: Longy on July 03, 2009, 10:27:17 PM
well all i can say is fergie must be suffering from oldtimers cause that is a huge mistake IMHO owen will be lucky if he starts in 10 league games next season

Fergie ussually doesn't get proven wrong...and I'll be surprised if this doesn't turn out to be a clever bit of business.

Veron
Taibi
Bosnich
Poborsky
Jordi Cruyff
Prunier
Djemba Djemba
Kleberson
Nani

Need i go on?

Ferguson often gets it wrong in the transfer market, he is no Wenger. Having said that I quite like this signing and think it is a pretty good risk to take, given the possible rewards.


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: George2Loose on July 03, 2009, 10:54:38 PM
Nothing to lose imo- he's on pay as your play. If he's shite we'll ship him out but I've often heard people say that an average striker will score more goals at United simply due the chances they'd get.

Mercenary or not, he has a reason to succeed with the world cup coming up.


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: thetank on July 03, 2009, 11:29:10 PM
Going to bump thread at end of season and petition for it to be renamed the epic Ironstein failathon


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: kukushkin88 on July 03, 2009, 11:40:41 PM
i think its a great buy, his goal return everywhere is outstanding, just if he stays fit.

lol everywhere? where? In league football his record is poor. <20 goals every season


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: Ironside on July 03, 2009, 11:50:37 PM
Going to bump thread at end of season and petition for it to be renamed the epic Ironstein failathon
not first or last


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: thetank on July 03, 2009, 11:58:35 PM
Englands top goalscorer in 2006 World Cup wasn't he?


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: ACE2M on July 04, 2009, 10:08:40 AM
i think its a great buy, his goal return everywhere is outstanding, just if he stays fit.

lol everywhere? where? In league football his record is poor. <20 goals every season

goals to games ratio


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: The Baron on July 04, 2009, 11:48:29 AM
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/jim-white/article/9652/

Jimmy White makes sense, me thinks.


About him being a mercenary..lol very hard at that. The guy is looking for a job, should he not go to ManU because he once played for Liverpool? Or because he left to go to Real, the biggest club in the world at that time? Liverpool didn't want him back after he came back from Real and they don't want him now. Owen is doing the best thing for his career ATM..teaming up with Rooney at ManU is the best way for him to get in the frame for the England job again.

Fair play to him for taking a big pay cut and not going to Stoke or some other club where he might make more money (not taking into account bonusses and all that) but going to a team where he can achieve something.

I agree on his choice now at this stage because let's be honest, who else is goin to ofer him CL football? I wont hold it against him.

His move to Real isn't a huge problem for me either but it was the timing of the move and the way he went about getting it that annoyed me a little. He basically left us with no move for anyone else.

His move to Newcastle is what really made me dislike he guy. He knew he could have held out for a move to Liverpool by calling Madrid's bluff and at very worst having to spend one more season at Real, where he was getting semi-cult status with some quarters of their fans a la Guti, but England came first and knowing Newcastle under Souness would be shocking he still went there asically killing off four years of his career. He openly told everyone before the move that they weren't his first choice then tried to insult both sets of fans by claiming it's where he wanted to be.

As a player I really rate him (30 odd goals in 65 odd games for Newcastle tells it's own story) and in terms of self belief he's a borderline cocky, in a good way, when it comes to his own ability. The guy is just a bit of a c*ck though.

He'll do a good job for Utd if fit but he'd have not fitted in to our style of play any more without his electric pace.


Title: Re: Whither Michael Owen
Post by: boldie on July 04, 2009, 07:26:46 PM
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/jim-white/article/9652/

Jimmy White makes sense, me thinks.


About him being a mercenary..lol very hard at that. The guy is looking for a job, should he not go to ManU because he once played for Liverpool? Or because he left to go to Real, the biggest club in the world at that time? Liverpool didn't want him back after he came back from Real and they don't want him now. Owen is doing the best thing for his career ATM..teaming up with Rooney at ManU is the best way for him to get in the frame for the England job again.

Fair play to him for taking a big pay cut and not going to Stoke or some other club where he might make more money (not taking into account bonusses and all that) but going to a team where he can achieve something.

I agree on his choice now at this stage because let's be honest, who else is goin to ofer him CL football? I wont hold it against him.

His move to Real isn't a huge problem for me either but it was the timing of the move and the way he went about getting it that annoyed me a little. He basically left us with no move for anyone else.

His move to Newcastle is what really made me dislike he guy. He knew he could have held out for a move to Liverpool by calling Madrid's bluff and at very worst having to spend one more season at Real, where he was getting semi-cult status with some quarters of their fans a la Guti, but England came first and knowing Newcastle under Souness would be shocking he still went there asically killing off four years of his career. He openly told everyone before the move that they weren't his first choice then tried to insult both sets of fans by claiming it's where he wanted to be.

As a player I really rate him (30 odd goals in 65 odd games for Newcastle tells it's own story) and in terms of self belief he's a borderline cocky, in a good way, when it comes to his own ability. The guy is just a bit of a c*ck though.

He'll do a good job for Utd if fit but he'd have not fitted in to our style of play any more without his electric pace.

Oh yeah, I'd actually forgotten about that..that was bad.