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Title: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: nizel13 on July 11, 2009, 02:45:38 PM I would like inform you of a recent development relating to a situation involving Vincent Price and myself Neil Ryder. On the Friday 26th June preceding the £500 Summer Series main event me and Vinny agreed to put in half the buy in (£275) for a 50/50 share of the prize money and he would play the event. On the day of the tournament we both put in £275 at the cash desk at Walsall and again agreed to 50/50. Unfortunately as in many cases involving big tournament wins Vinny has not upheld his share of the agreement. He now only wants to give me £4000 of the £16000 he won and saying that is fair, which of course it isn't as it completely contradicts the agreement we had. He gave me £2500 on the day and further payments totalling £650 and said he would transfer the rest to my account when the cheque cleared, of course this hasn't happened!!!!!!!!! I've been arguing with him all day about this with him saying I should be happy with what I have got. I have even tried to be reasonable and said i'll take £6000 which isn't even 40% as I believe he deserved a premium for playing the tournament and winning it but he is keeping what is 'rightfully his'.
I think it's right to let everybody in the poker community know about this type of betrayal. It's unfortunate that such a brilliant performance from him will be tarnished in this way but I guess seeing the £££££ makes people forget about what really got them there. If you would like to discuss this further then please do not hesitate to contact me. Yours sincerely, Neil Ryder ryderneil@hotmail.com Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: byronkincaid on July 11, 2009, 03:14:41 PM what's all this cheque nonsense? were you there when he won? if so why didn't you go to the cashier with him and take your 50% in cash?
Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: celtic on July 11, 2009, 03:49:23 PM Why are you now prepared to take less than 40% when the deal was 50/50?
Kick his arse for the rest imo. Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: boldie on July 11, 2009, 03:52:20 PM Why are you now prepared to take less than 40% when the deal was 50/50? Kick his arse for the rest imo. Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: pokerfan on July 11, 2009, 03:58:14 PM Why are you now prepared to take less than 40% when the deal was 50/50? Kick his arse for the rest imo. Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: MANTIS01 on July 11, 2009, 04:00:04 PM I can't imagine why you would try and be reasonable by offering to accept less than 40% if your staking agreement was for 50%. Why would you do that? You put half the money down...your buddy tries to grim you....you're ok with getting grimmed...as long as it's only for about 10% or less. No way he should get an extra 10% just because he won some races in the tournament. You should be more outraged...not offering grim limitation deals.
Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: byronkincaid on July 11, 2009, 04:02:34 PM lol at his t shirt, was he trying to tell you something?
Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: Free_Rollin on July 11, 2009, 04:04:44 PM Don't hold out for £6k, you should get the whole £8k.
If it went the other way, and he didn't win or cash in the tourney, he wasn't going to offer you anything back, was he? Also, check your PM. Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: GreekStein on July 11, 2009, 04:09:33 PM If someone did that to me they'd be spending their £12k on a coffin.
Your agreement was for 50-50 so don't take any less. Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: Rupert on July 11, 2009, 04:22:17 PM live player in scumbag shocker
Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: StuartHopkin on July 11, 2009, 04:57:24 PM Ill get you the full £8k but then were goin 50/50 and i need an alibi 8)
Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: dousche on July 11, 2009, 04:59:30 PM watch the saw movies for inspiration
Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: Woodsey on July 11, 2009, 05:00:18 PM If someone did that to me they'd be spending their £12k on a coffin. Your agreement was for 50-50 so don't take any less. Since when did you become a tough guy? ;surrender; Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: Dewi_cool on July 11, 2009, 05:05:31 PM Do you still have 50% of him in the champion of champions comp?
Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: GreekStein on July 11, 2009, 05:20:37 PM If someone did that to me they'd be spending their £12k on a coffin. Your agreement was for 50-50 so don't take any less. Since when did you become a tough guy? ;surrender; Its not about being hard or not, it's just not letting people take the piss Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: scotty2hatty on July 11, 2009, 05:29:36 PM If someone did that to me they'd be spending their £12k on a coffin. Your agreement was for 50-50 so don't take any less. Since when did you become a tough guy? ;surrender; lol Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: ItsMrAlex2u on July 11, 2009, 05:49:07 PM Do you still have 50% of him in the champion of champions comp? Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: 810ofclubs on July 11, 2009, 06:17:14 PM Omg WTF u just cannot trust some ppl, I chopped with him and he got 16k in cash, so y didn't u take the money then?
he seemed like a nice guy and now he has just ruined a rep that he only just started fool! Sounds like u should get some mates and go find this geezer, Greek stein won't b alot of help btw lol Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: vinni on July 11, 2009, 06:18:25 PM ff are you a mug ,he would`nt have got out of the door of the casino .
i might know some one who can get it you if your interested. Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: bolt pp on July 11, 2009, 07:00:41 PM If someone did that to me they'd be spending their £12k on a coffin. Your agreement was for 50-50 so don't take any less. Since when did you become a tough guy? ;surrender; Its not about being hard or not, it's just not letting people take the piss One day, one day some of the kids from the neighborhood carried my mother’s groceries all the way home. You know why? It was out of respect. Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: GreekStein on July 11, 2009, 07:29:40 PM If someone did that to me they'd be spending their £12k on a coffin. Your agreement was for 50-50 so don't take any less. Since when did you become a tough guy? ;surrender; Its not about being hard or not, it's just not letting people take the piss One day, one day some of the kids from the neighborhood carried my mother’s groceries all the way home. You know why? It was out of respect. congrats Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: bolt pp on July 11, 2009, 07:34:39 PM If someone did that to me they'd be spending their £12k on a coffin. Your agreement was for 50-50 so don't take any less. Since when did you become a tough guy? ;surrender; Its not about being hard or not, it's just not letting people take the piss One day, one day some of the kids from the neighborhood carried my mother’s groceries all the way home. You know why? It was out of respect. congrats That piece of shit up there, I never liked him, I never trusted him. For all I know he had me set up and had my friend Angel Fernandez killed Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: AndrewT on July 11, 2009, 07:40:39 PM For those interested Vincent Price is playing in the £500 tourney at the Vic tonight - table 8 seat 3...
Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: littlemissC on July 11, 2009, 07:48:55 PM im so shocked by this you two looked pretty tight as friends go
Neil dont let him screw you ffs get what ur owed even if it means getting baz involved,lol Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: Karabiner on July 11, 2009, 08:57:46 PM Shock horror as good mate grims his poker buddy.
Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: Boba Fett on July 11, 2009, 10:45:59 PM Even Fergus8 paid up when we swapped percentages and he took down tourneys :O
Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: MC on July 11, 2009, 11:40:39 PM Your agreement was for 50-50 so don't take any less. +1 Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: AlexMartin on July 12, 2009, 07:00:14 AM btw i know i ow mond 100 and richie 250+ and its comiiiinnnng......
Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: Steve Swift on July 12, 2009, 11:20:03 AM This is pretty sick, i hope to get involved in staking at some point, you knew each other well and he still did you. He has played for long enough to know he is wrong. So sick.
Hope u get your rightful wedge. Steve Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: Steve Swift on July 12, 2009, 11:21:28 AM For those interested Vincent Price is playing in the £500 tourney at the Vic tonight - table 8 seat 3... I wonder how he got on, who bought him in? Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: Steve Swift on July 12, 2009, 11:23:29 AM Unfortunately as in many cases involving big tournament wins Vinny has not upheld his share of the agreement.
And you had a deal with this sort of character? Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: StuartHopkin on July 12, 2009, 12:45:39 PM For those interested Vincent Price is playing in the £500 tourney at the Vic tonight - table 8 seat 3... I wonder how he got on, who bought him in? Probably could afford this himself But in a way it was the OP DUCY Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: George2Loose on July 12, 2009, 01:00:20 PM btw i know i ow mond 100 and richie 250+ and its comiiiinnnng...... forgotten me haven't you bud? :'( Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: riverdave on July 13, 2009, 05:08:37 AM If someone did that to me they'd be spending their £12k on a coffin. Your agreement was for 50-50 so don't take any less. Since when did you become a tough guy? ;surrender; Its not about being hard or not, it's just not letting people take the piss One day, one day some of the kids from the neighborhood carried my mother’s groceries all the way home. You know why? It was out of respect. The Original Nuttah? Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: bolt pp on July 13, 2009, 10:08:32 AM If someone did that to me they'd be spending their £12k on a coffin. Your agreement was for 50-50 so don't take any less. Since when did you become a tough guy? ;surrender; Its not about being hard or not, it's just not letting people take the piss One day, one day some of the kids from the neighborhood carried my mother’s groceries all the way home. You know why? It was out of respect. The Original Nuttah? yes but goodfellas first obv ::) and the other one?(without googling)!!!!! Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: action man on July 13, 2009, 11:05:18 AM there are a few people on the circuit who specialise in debt collection.
Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: littlemissC on July 13, 2009, 01:19:22 PM he was playing cash at dtd last night
i was so close to asking him if he had seen this thread but for once thought id mind my own buisness ;D Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: I KNOW IT on July 13, 2009, 01:23:48 PM If someone did that to me they'd be spending their £12k on a coffin. Your agreement was for 50-50 so don't take any less. Since when did you become a tough guy? ;surrender; Its not about being hard or not, it's just not letting people take the piss One day, one day some of the kids from the neighborhood carried my mother’s groceries all the way home. You know why? It was out of respect. The Original Nuttah? yes but goodfellas first obv ::) and the other one?(without googling)!!!!! Scarface Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: bolt pp on July 13, 2009, 02:15:52 PM If someone did that to me they'd be spending their £12k on a coffin. Your agreement was for 50-50 so don't take any less. Since when did you become a tough guy? ;surrender; Its not about being hard or not, it's just not letting people take the piss One day, one day some of the kids from the neighborhood carried my mother’s groceries all the way home. You know why? It was out of respect. The Original Nuttah? yes but goodfellas first obv ::) and the other one?(without googling)!!!!! Scarface o.k couple more for you, but NO googling!! ;D "leave the gun, take the cannolis" "favour'll kill you faster than a bullet" "culture, sophistication, genius, little bit more than an hotdog, know whqat i mean"? Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: cia260895 on July 13, 2009, 02:31:49 PM be careful when trying to take on Vincent Price,
look what happened to the last person that called him a grimmer.. (http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/oo133/cia260895/imagesvp.jpg) Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: tikay on July 13, 2009, 05:36:46 PM there are a few people on the circuit who specialise in debt creation. FYP Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: nirvana on July 13, 2009, 06:29:26 PM If someone did that to me they'd be spending their £12k on a coffin. Your agreement was for 50-50 so don't take any less. Since when did you become a tough guy? ;surrender; Its not about being hard or not, it's just not letting people take the piss One day, one day some of the kids from the neighborhood carried my mother’s groceries all the way home. You know why? It was out of respect. The Original Nuttah? yes but goodfellas first obv ::) and the other one?(without googling)!!!!! Scarface o.k couple more for you, but NO googling!! ;D "leave the gun, take the cannolis" "favour'll kill you faster than a bullet" "culture, sophistication, genius, little bit more than an hotdog, know whqat i mean"? First one is from the Godafther - Clemenza I think after carrying out an execution jobbie Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: bolt pp on July 13, 2009, 06:36:21 PM If someone did that to me they'd be spending their £12k on a coffin. Your agreement was for 50-50 so don't take any less. Since when did you become a tough guy? ;surrender; Its not about being hard or not, it's just not letting people take the piss One day, one day some of the kids from the neighborhood carried my mother’s groceries all the way home. You know why? It was out of respect. The Original Nuttah? yes but goodfellas first obv ::) and the other one?(without googling)!!!!! Scarface o.k couple more for you, but NO googling!! ;D "leave the gun, take the cannolis" "favour'll kill you faster than a bullet" "culture, sophistication, genius, little bit more than an hotdog, know whqat i mean"? First one is from the Godafther - Clemenza I think after carrying out an execution jobbie :)up Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: jambo22 on July 23, 2009, 09:42:46 AM How did this end up? Did OP get his cash
Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: snoopy1239 on July 24, 2009, 11:00:16 AM You're not the first. He screwed Bret too.
Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: The Camel on July 24, 2009, 11:57:17 AM there are a few people on the circuit who specialise in debt creation. FYP Tikay's funniest ever post. Title: Re: Walsall Summer Series Main Event Screwjob Post by: FISHCOP1 on July 31, 2009, 06:12:52 PM Sat on his table last night at the £150 at the Broadway last night, looks like he spent most of that wedge on his watch! Nice bling there P Diddy! lol.
Rough what happened over the chop, some brass neck for the guy to still show his face in the same cardroom as the dude he fleeced and not even say a word to him. Hope you get the money you are owed back, dont settle for a penny less than 50% in my opinion. A deals a deal, if he had a problem handin over large chunks of cash he shoulda thought about that scenario before agreeing to it. |