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Title: QQ In Big blind facing a 4-Bet Post by: Rod on July 12, 2009, 10:33:41 PM Hi Guy's
Am interested in some opinions on this hand I get dealt QQ not long after joining the table. I get in this hand with jonpon and he has been playing tight but I only have 17 hands on him. He was playing 12/6 and had not made any 3-Bets. When he raises from the button I have to reraise but when he raises me back what is the best play. Not 100% sure my shove is correct. GAME #1710584086: Texas Hold'em NL $0.25/$0.50 2009-07-05 11:45:28 Table Bally (No DP 50 bb min) Seat 1: TimeGoesForGood ($60.79 in chips) Seat 3: KoiNoi ($49.00 in chips) DEALER Seat 5: jonpon ($136.66 in chips) Seat 6: Rodder5 ($44.76 in chips) Seat 10: BOTSUP ($111.56 in chips) jonpon: Post SB $0.25 Rodder5: Post BB $0.50 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Rodder5 [SQ CQ] BOTSUP: Fold TimeGoesForGood: Fold KoiNoi: Fold jonpon: Raise (NF) $1.50 Rodder5: Raise (NF) $5.00 jonpon: Raise (NF) $12.00 Rodder5: Raise (NF) $44.76 Title: Re: QQ In Big blind facing a 4-Bet Post by: DaveShoelace on July 12, 2009, 10:46:57 PM I think in this spot, with no concrete reads, I think I am opting to flat the 4-bet with a view to check raising all in on a favourable flop (ie. no ace or king, assume he is gonna c-bet all his ace-x hands etc) - I think it just keeps in a few more of the hands you want in there.
Title: Re: QQ In Big blind facing a 4-Bet Post by: TightEnd on July 12, 2009, 11:37:35 PM I think in this spot, with no concrete reads, I think I am opting to flat the 4-bet with a view to check raising all in on a favourable flop (ie. no ace or king, assume he is gonna c-bet all his ace-x hands etc) - I think it just keeps in a few more of the hands you want in there. and you check fold on any A and/or K flop? where he c-bets JJ for example. Title: Re: QQ In Big blind facing a 4-Bet Post by: GreekStein on July 12, 2009, 11:47:31 PM I think in this spot, with no concrete reads, I think I am opting to flat the 4-bet with a view to check raising all in on a favourable flop (ie. no ace or king, assume he is gonna c-bet all his ace-x hands etc) - I think it just keeps in a few more of the hands you want in there. and you check fold on any A and/or K flop? where he c-bets JJ for example. Opposite occurs though when the flop comes raggy and we are able to get it in against 1010 99 JJ type hands Title: Re: QQ In Big blind facing a 4-Bet Post by: AlexMartin on July 13, 2009, 12:37:06 PM Meh, i fold to his small 4ball pre. Hes 12/6, exploit a tight player by folding.
Title: Re: QQ In Big blind facing a 4-Bet Post by: DaveShoelace on July 13, 2009, 03:08:36 PM Meh, i fold to his small 4ball pre. Hes 12/6, exploit a tight player by folding. Rod only has 17 hands on him at this point. Title: Re: QQ In Big blind facing a 4-Bet Post by: DaveShoelace on July 13, 2009, 03:12:16 PM I think in this spot, with no concrete reads, I think I am opting to flat the 4-bet with a view to check raising all in on a favourable flop (ie. no ace or king, assume he is gonna c-bet all his ace-x hands etc) - I think it just keeps in a few more of the hands you want in there. and you check fold on any A and/or K flop? where he c-bets JJ for example. I'm not sure JJ c-bets all the time on an a/or k flop, I think it checks back quite a bit of the time trying to get a cheap showdown. 99-tt might c-bet and then we might be getting outplayed if we fold, but as greekyboy says, we get to stack the same hands much more on low flops. Title: Re: QQ In Big blind facing a 4-Bet Post by: Rod on July 13, 2009, 06:37:32 PM If anybody wanted to know the result he called and showed AA. I was wondering if anything other than this and KK are actually going to call this. AK might but I am not that far aheda in that case and a decent player would fold jacks to this bet I would ahve thought. Is is better to just fold pre (seems very tight) or call and get it in on a flop without and A or K???
Title: Re: QQ In Big blind facing a 4-Bet Post by: silverslick on July 14, 2009, 12:48:54 AM I had a similar experience at 50c $1 recently and the guy had aces. With not many hands on the guy the range widens and I made it a call. Don't play enough to know a typical range a player might do this with. I figured down to Jacks and AJ suited.
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