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Title: 500th time lucky Post by: Ironside on July 22, 2009, 10:40:14 PM betting size better this time?
PokerStars Game #30760140449: Tournament #180540428, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (40/80) - 2009/07/22 22:33:26 WET [2009/07/22 17:33:26 ET] Table '180540428 230' 9-max Seat #2 is the button Seat 1: kingdig (2150 in chips) Seat 2: JackiCan (5230 in chips) Seat 3: Rødmix2 (11085 in chips) is sitting out Seat 4: PRITTPRITT (2600 in chips) Seat 5: Hustlerben (4055 in chips) Seat 6: SJAFFIE (2740 in chips) Seat 7: thomascaen (3950 in chips) Seat 8: Touareg23 (3350 in chips) Seat 9: Ironside (6545 in chips) Rødmix2: posts small blind 40 PRITTPRITT: posts big blind 80 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Ironside [Kc Kh] Rødmix2 has returned Hustlerben: folds SJAFFIE: raises 160 to 240 thomascaen: folds Touareg23: folds Ironside: raises 300 to 540 kingdig: folds JackiCan: folds Rødmix2: folds Rødmix2 is sitting out PRITTPRITT: folds SJAFFIE: calls 300 *** FLOP *** [As 5c 7d] SJAFFIE: bets 2200 and is all-in Title: Re: 500th time lucky Post by: MC on July 22, 2009, 11:01:07 PM If I was intending to make a small raise, I'd still make it 600 here; why so small??
Title: Re: 500th time lucky Post by: Ironside on July 22, 2009, 11:06:21 PM If I was intending to make a small raise, I'd still make it 600 here; why so small?? cause i am trying to adjust my game 600 is where i would normally raise here but been told my bets and raise are too big think this is one i got right (i hope) cause for once not having flushy laugh would be a good start Table '180540428 230' 9-max Seat #4 is the button Seat 1: kingdig (4320 in chips) Seat 2: JackiCan (8060 in chips) Seat 3: mikeytaker (16070 in chips) Seat 4: PRITTPRITT (2210 in chips) Seat 5: Hustlerben (8655 in chips) is sitting out Seat 6: SJAFFIE (6150 in chips) Seat 7: thomascaen (12905 in chips) Seat 8: Touareg23 (5620 in chips) Seat 9: Ironside (8915 in chips) kingdig: posts the ante 10 JackiCan: posts the ante 10 mikeytaker: posts the ante 10 PRITTPRITT: posts the ante 10 Hustlerben: posts the ante 10 SJAFFIE: posts the ante 10 thomascaen: posts the ante 10 Touareg23: posts the ante 10 Ironside: posts the ante 10 Hustlerben: posts small blind 50 SJAFFIE: posts big blind 100 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Ironside [Ac Ad] thomascaen: folds Touareg23: folds Ironside: raises 150 to 250 kingdig: folds JackiCan: raises 550 to 800 mikeytaker: folds PRITTPRITT: folds Hustlerben: folds SJAFFIE: folds Ironside: raises 1000 to 1800 JackiCan: raises 6250 to 8050 and is all-in Ironside: calls 6250 Title: Re: 500th time lucky Post by: Graham C on July 22, 2009, 11:20:23 PM For a 3 bet, I'd raise more in the first hand. Hand 2 he's showing keen by 3 betting so much, make it a bit more, around 2.4k.
Just what I'd do obv, not necessary correct! Title: Re: 500th time lucky Post by: Ironside on July 22, 2009, 11:25:50 PM For a 3 bet, I'd raise more in the first hand. Hand 2 he's showing keen by 3 betting so much, make it a bit more, around 2.4k. Just what I'd do obv, not necessary correct! anything is better than i have been doing cause i am getting royally fucked Title: Re: 500th time lucky Post by: Royal Flush on July 22, 2009, 11:53:53 PM 2nd one i like.
First one is way to small, make it at the least 640 but probs 720, although i prefer a flat more than a 3b. Title: Re: 500th time lucky Post by: Longy on July 22, 2009, 11:56:57 PM Iron just have a standard raise size and stick to it.
My raise sizing in tourneys is as follows. Opening 2.5x and adding 1bb for each limper, if i am 3betting making it 3x the open. Title: Re: 500th time lucky Post by: Ironside on July 22, 2009, 11:58:23 PM 2nd one i like. quote so he cant delete wohooooooooooooooooooo 1 hand in a thousand i got right pity i butchered Js Ts on a JJA flop to lose alot of the chips again Title: Re: 500th time lucky Post by: Ironside on July 23, 2009, 12:02:30 AM Iron just have a standard raise size and stick to it. My raise sizing in tourneys is as follows. Opening 2.5x and adding 1bb for each limper, if i am 3betting making it 3x the open. i did but got told my sizes were wrong so trying to adjust i havent played much NLHE mtts online for so long everythng has changed Title: Re: 500th time lucky Post by: ChipRich on July 23, 2009, 12:07:26 AM 2nd one i like. First one is way to small, make it at the least 640 but probs 720, although i prefer a flat more than a 3b. this bascially. Title: Re: 500th time lucky Post by: Royal Flush on July 23, 2009, 12:10:56 AM Typically i 3x my opens pre antes, and 2.5x with antes.
3b size i tend to 3b 3x pre antes and smaller after the antes depending on my position. Title: Re: 500th time lucky Post by: dousche on July 24, 2009, 12:34:20 PM Typically i 3x my opens pre antes, and 2.5x with antes. 3b size i tend to 3b 3x pre antes and smaller after the antes depending on my position. why smaller post-antes? seems strange as obv you're giving much better odds. unless its just because stacks are shallower? Title: Re: 500th time lucky Post by: outragous76 on July 24, 2009, 01:03:41 PM in part you are more likely to be stealing - therefore number of attemts v's number of sucesses if fewer
eg blinds are 1000 2000 200 10 handed therefore pot = 5k pre 2.5x = 5k 3x = 6k at 2.5x only 1 in 2 raises needs to be sucessful to be break even at 3x 2/3 needs to be successful (& will show a minor gain) That said bearing in mind no-one raise folds with < 20bb's nowadays this is prob less relevant however the smaller raise size is more relevant as people are more likely to be reshoving therefore you are less exposed Title: Re: 500th time lucky Post by: The Camel on July 24, 2009, 01:06:33 PM Typically i 3x my opens pre antes, and 2.5x with antes. 3b size i tend to 3b 3x pre antes and smaller after the antes depending on my position. This is back to front surely. Raise more with antes less without. Title: Re: 500th time lucky Post by: Royal Flush on July 24, 2009, 01:38:14 PM Typically i 3x my opens pre antes, and 2.5x with antes. 3b size i tend to 3b 3x pre antes and smaller after the antes depending on my position. This is back to front surely. Raise more with antes less without. No. Title: Re: 500th time lucky Post by: Royal Flush on July 24, 2009, 01:39:06 PM That said bearing in mind no-one raise folds with < 20bb's nowadays this is prob less relevant Everything you said was pretty much spot on apart from this, raise folding 15-20bb is v effective. Title: Re: 500th time lucky Post by: outragous76 on July 24, 2009, 01:44:02 PM That said bearing in mind no-one raise folds with < 20bb's nowadays this is prob less relevant Everything you said was pretty much spot on apart from this, raise folding 15-20bb is v effective. i think so - but not many do! and thank you - flushy says something positive on one of my posts - weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ;) Title: Re: 500th time lucky Post by: outragous76 on July 24, 2009, 01:46:49 PM Typically i 3x my opens pre antes, and 2.5x with antes. 3b size i tend to 3b 3x pre antes and smaller after the antes depending on my position. This is back to front surely. Raise more with antes less without. very few people call junk with pot odds created by smaller raises - and if they do its a pretty bad spew therefore if 2.5x is effective - then use it - obv means you are donating less if you have to fold finally - if you are 3.5x or even 4x'ing - your competant opposition will think you are terribad - so dont do it! Title: Re: 500th time lucky Post by: mckelinho on July 24, 2009, 02:12:58 PM in part you are more likely to be stealing - therefore number of attemts v's number of sucesses if fewer eg blinds are 1000 2000 200 10 handed therefore pot = 5k pre 2.5x = 5k 3x = 6k at 2.5x only 1 in 2 raises needs to be sucessful to be break even at 3x 2/3 needs to be successful (& will show a minor gain) That said bearing in mind no-one raise folds with < 20bb's nowadays this is prob less relevant however the smaller raise size is more relevant as people are more likely to be reshoving therefore you are less exposed Yeah, this is spot on!! As when antes are in play a when we are less deepstacked so there is alot of going over the top. I 2.5x it with antes unless im holding a monster i'll 3-3.5x hoping someone goes over the top of me. Situational of course Title: Re: 500th time lucky Post by: bolt pp on July 24, 2009, 02:33:33 PM lol
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