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Title: do you go with ur hand here? Post by: outragous76 on August 06, 2009, 01:46:02 AM $55 1100 runners - we have already cashed and are down to 80 players:
not that it matters decission wise - but i have been super tight - and c bet after most p/f raises PokerStars Game #31293962682: Tournament #183606304, $50+$5 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (800/1600) - 2009/08/06 1:39:26 WET [2009/08/05 20:39:26 ET] Table '183606304 72' 9-max Seat #7 is the button Seat 1: mddgfc (27147 in chips) Seat 2: outragous76 (51080 in chips) Seat 3: texaszanardi (27694 in chips) Seat 4: vaksi31 (36463 in chips) Seat 5: FMatos78 (96473 in chips) Seat 6: wmmcl (66750 in chips) Seat 7: mmzzqq (36192 in chips) Seat 8: 13LuckyLucky (43770 in chips) Seat 9: tinsil8 (51933 in chips) mddgfc: posts the ante 150 outragous76: posts the ante 150 texaszanardi: posts the ante 150 vaksi31: posts the ante 150 FMatos78: posts the ante 150 wmmcl: posts the ante 150 mmzzqq: posts the ante 150 13LuckyLucky: posts the ante 150 tinsil8: posts the ante 150 13LuckyLucky: posts small blind 800 tinsil8: posts big blind 1600 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to outragous76 [Kd Qd] mddgfc: folds FMatos78 said, "nh" outragous76: raises 2050 to 3650 texaszanardi: folds vaksi31: folds FMatos78: calls 3650 wmmcl: folds mmzzqq: folds 13LuckyLucky: calls 2850 tinsil8: folds *** FLOP *** [8s Jc Tc] 13LuckyLucky: checks outragous76: checks FMatos78: bets 8000 13LuckyLucky: raises 31970 to 39970 and is all-in outragous76: ?????? Title: Re: do you go with ur hand here? Post by: riverdave on August 06, 2009, 04:14:47 AM More info required of particular importance is average stack. Assuming you arent short here as you've played it you could quite easily pass worst case you could find yourself 3 way with only 6 or even as few as 4 live outs if some of them are in oppo's hands. Of course you could find yourself heads up with 14 outs but that seems unlikely.
I don't really like the flop check my normal line would be bet/price myself in to call the shove/bink. The problem is we don't know what the flop leader is going to do and we could of given ourselves a lot more information by leading ourselves. What was thought process behind checking, were you hoping to check shove/bink for free? Title: Re: do you go with ur hand here? Post by: dousche on August 06, 2009, 05:58:52 AM why can i only see Kd in your hand?
Title: Re: do you go with ur hand here? Post by: dousche on August 06, 2009, 05:59:37 AM ok, as soon as i post that changes to Kd Qd. only now theres only Jc Tc on the flop. effing internet ghosts
Title: Re: do you go with ur hand here? Post by: AlexMartin on August 06, 2009, 07:36:50 AM no, i fold
Title: Re: do you go with ur hand here? Post by: outragous76 on August 06, 2009, 09:17:00 AM More info required of particular importance is average stack. Assuming you arent short here as you've played it you could quite easily pass worst case you could find yourself 3 way with only 6 or even as few as 4 live outs if some of them are in oppo's hands. Of course you could find yourself heads up with 14 outs but that seems unlikely. I don't really like the flop check my normal line would be bet/price myself in to call the shove/bink. The problem is we don't know what the flop leader is going to do and we could of given ourselves a lot more information by leading ourselves. What was thought process behind checking, were you hoping to check shove/bink for free? if i fold i am left with the average stack (circa 25bb's) The reason i checked is that I am against 2 opponents on a semi scary board, and i figured that c-betting just lets someone jam in my eye then i am forced to go with my hand. I was prepared to let someone bet then shove all in, but then when i have a bettor and a reshipper in front it wasnt really as i had planned. I guess my question is, given that I am in the money - do I take this spot to become CL and press on for the win, or do I realise that I still have a healthy stack and fold? The first flat caller had been flatting alot of my raises but folded to most of my c bets and the 2nd guy i just figured called because of the price. However this was one of those boards which i am not a fan of c betting against 2 opponents. I wanted to see if they would give me a free card and see if i could bink. so do you go for the win or fold and maintain 25bbs? Title: Re: do you go with ur hand here? Post by: MANTIS01 on August 06, 2009, 09:23:10 AM I think folding is more going for the win than calling
Title: Re: do you go with ur hand here? Post by: EvilPie on August 06, 2009, 12:39:26 PM Easy pass.
If you're short or huge then possibly call but in this spot drop it quick. Title: Re: do you go with ur hand here? Post by: Cf on August 06, 2009, 12:49:59 PM Snap fold for me.
Title: Re: do you go with ur hand here? Post by: outragous76 on August 06, 2009, 01:06:00 PM ok thats all fine - i just wanted to check.
I did snap fold but wondered where people stood on this kind of spot interestingly the hands were KJ for the bettor and AQo for the all in - KJ snap called! board ran dry 22 or something cheers Title: Re: do you go with ur hand here? Post by: gatso on August 06, 2009, 01:19:09 PM I think folding is more going for the win than calling err, this other than being late for the pub I can't see a single reason to not fold Title: Re: do you go with ur hand here? Post by: GreekStein on August 06, 2009, 01:59:53 PM I did snap fold You not consider folding faster? Title: Re: do you go with ur hand here? Post by: MC on August 06, 2009, 03:01:48 PM It's a fold, surprised you didn't lead out this flop though...although it probs worked out better for you that you didn't...
Title: Re: do you go with ur hand here? Post by: Sack it off on August 06, 2009, 06:55:53 PM I think if your up against a flush draw your fkd
If your up against J10 your fkd Combine these... your fkd. I'd fold If the board was rainbow that could change things |