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Title: Pre flop gamble 100bb Deep Post by: roscopiko on August 14, 2009, 08:54:45 AM Interested on peoples thoughts here please.
Bit of history with this player and have been at his table for over 2 hours. The tournament is $50k G $3+R and there are 3000 runners remaining. Winning this pot would put us in top 10 and imo give us free reign on a weak table. Villain has doubles us 2 hands previous when open shoving 200BB with 55 vs our AA. We have seen villain shove all pairs and AK on at least 10 occasions in this games. Question is, if you can happily (say 95% sure) put villain on range of AJ- and most likely worst case KQ do we need to call pre in this spot so deep where we are >60% fav or should we wait for a better post flop spot??? PokerStars Game #31592646401: Tournament #185960792, $3.00+$0.30 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (125/250) - 2009/08/13 22:22:02 CET [2009/08/13 16:22:02 ET] Table '185960792 118' 9-max Seat #7 is the button Seat 1: malesur (16425 in chips) Seat 2: andersmeli (20109 in chips) Seat 3: mutataboy (8062 in chips) is sitting out Seat 4: Cuadratura (21866 in chips) Seat 5: Blazer95 (4750 in chips) Seat 6: wellwill (16976 in chips) Seat 7: roscopiko (28669 in chips) Seat 8: kanalratte (14595 in chips) Seat 9: AALeNomadeKK (45105 in chips) malesur: posts the ante 30 andersmeli: posts the ante 30 mutataboy: posts the ante 30 Cuadratura: posts the ante 30 Blazer95: posts the ante 30 wellwill: posts the ante 30 roscopiko: posts the ante 30 kanalratte: posts the ante 30 AALeNomadeKK: posts the ante 30 kanalratte: posts small blind 125 AALeNomadeKK: posts big blind 250 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to roscopiko Ad Jd malesur: folds andersmeli: folds mutataboy: folds Cuadratura: calls 250 Blazer95: folds wellwill: calls 250 roscopiko: raises 750 to 1000 kanalratte: folds AALeNomadeKK: folds Cuadratura: calls 750 wellwill: raises 15946 to 16946 and is all-in Title: Re: Pre flop gamble 100bb Deep Post by: MANTIS01 on August 14, 2009, 09:55:31 AM We have seen villain shove all pairs and A-K on at least 10 occassions. Yet we are 95% certain his range is behind A-J. Why would we think that?
Title: Re: Pre flop gamble 100bb Deep Post by: roscopiko on August 14, 2009, 09:57:07 AM We have seen villain shove all pairs and A-K on at least 10 occassions. Yet we are 95% certain his range is behind A-J. Why would we think that? Good point, not explained. The fact he has initially limped where as he has open shoved with these hands. Title: Re: Pre flop gamble 100bb Deep Post by: ZZZZZZZROPE on August 14, 2009, 02:15:34 PM meh alot of bad players will limp aa kk type hands then jam when u raise. personally i fold and find better spots which im sure theyl b plenty in a 3r
Title: Re: Pre flop gamble 100bb Deep Post by: roscopiko on August 14, 2009, 02:29:54 PM meh alot of bad players will limp aa kk type hands then jam when u raise. personally i fold and find better spots which im sure theyl b plenty in a 3r ok, agreed its not 100% he doesnt have a monster, if you ignore this actual hand my question is more if you were offered a min of 60/40 with these stacks do you fold and wait for better post flop situations or gamble for 100bb on a 60/40 spot Title: Re: Pre flop gamble 100bb Deep Post by: BulldozerD on August 14, 2009, 02:56:51 PM snap fold - we are out of the rebuy period and AJ isn't in great shape
Title: Re: Pre flop gamble 100bb Deep Post by: gatso on August 14, 2009, 06:58:11 PM have we folded yet? there's nothing to suggest we're ahead of a single hand in his range
Title: Re: Pre flop gamble 100bb Deep Post by: MC on August 14, 2009, 10:34:03 PM super standard fold
Title: Re: Pre flop gamble 100bb Deep Post by: paulhouk03 on August 16, 2009, 08:42:40 PM easy fold
u have lots of chips find a better spot but i will never fold ak and QQ+ |