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Live cash game, 50p/£1. We're 6-handed and it's getting late.

Hero (who is pretty wasted having been out drinking since 1pm) has about £110.
Villian 1 has everyone easily covered. He is a TAG player. For anyone who plays in Leeds this villian is Justin.
Villian 2 has a similar stack to me. This villian seems to be a standard live cash donk.

So...

Hero opens UTG to £5 with TT.
Villian 1 raises on the button to £18.
SB folds, and Villian 2 flat calls from the big blind.

Hero ??

Well stack sizes are pretty important here, it seems like you just don't have the odds to call to set-mine.  A re-raise is out of the question as you are clearly dominated or flipping vs the TAG 3bet range.  So the question is, do you want to play a three-bet pot Vs a TAG out of position where you are (generally) 7.5-1 to continue in the hand after the flop and you can hit flops that could have you drawing to one out because of the BB's flatting range.  Even if you hit the flop the strongest you might not get paid, if the TAG is could then he will be more than capable of laying down Aces to you on the Flop/Turn. It's gonna be incredibly difficult to hit a flop that gets you fully paid by both of the villains and seems -ev in the long run.  However, if I had been drinking then I would def flat and hope to flop quads.

I don’t think many cash game regulars are passing here for the following reasons:

All three players have over 100 big blinds, and you are capping the betting. The pot is offering you just over 3 to 1 (ok you need 7.5 to 1 to set mine but your implied odds are good here if, a) the BB is weak, b) the button really has a hand and c) never mind implied odds, your tens may currently be best).

The table is six max, meaning that the button can 3-bet with a wide range here. If he is decent and you seem to hint that he is, then he can do this with hands that you are currently beating. On a nine seat table this is an easier pass, but given the way you have described the action I think most players call here. I don’t think re-raising achieves much, other than giving him a chance to put you all-in. In a tournament maybe you can shove here, but this is a cash game and the dynamics are very different indeed.

Another way of looking at the call as being a good play is the fact that you cannot be squeezed, because your position on the pre-flop raiser ensures this. If you flop big and check to the raiser (who will bet), you will be able to either re-raise immediately or call to get more money in on the turn (of course this depends on the texture of the flop and how strong you read your opponent to be when he c-bets). Equally if you miss, you let it go. This is why your position preflop is better than initially it seems.

Passing is too tight (and I say that as one of the tightest live tags out there).

It's £13 more into £42 with £92 back.

I reckon a call is fine here.

Cawl and flop a set or 789. Relative position/stack sizes ftw.

this +1

also, playing drunk then asking for analysis. superb leveeeeeel.

If I'm drunk this is a shove pre

Call then fold.

with a flop in between or immediately following each other pf? I guess the levels of alcohol affect this decision

Normally I'd wait for the AK3 flop and the all-in from the BB before folding, but yes, there are definitely merits to open folding pre-flop after making the call - but only when really drunk.

yeah, gotta balance your spew-fold range imo

This

peel and prey.

Flat and hope to hit biggggg but then again getting  Qc Qd to fold is good too

when is this happening?

When I shoved lol. Justin tanked for ages then eventually folded. The BB pretty much insta-folded after that.

Was a bit awkward. Didn't really like my set mining price (as if i call that's essentially what i'm resigning myself to doing 3 way like this?), but shoving also seemed a bit ott and spewy.

Shoving seems really terrible unless you were so drunk you didn't know you shoved then it's expert.

Obv being drunk increases my eagerness to shove by 1000%

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Opening 5x UTG isnt good usually but if thats how the table is playing then ok, live games can necessitate otherwise spewy play. Pretty sure Justin's range here is JJ+ AK with almost no bluffs but it would depend how youve been playing as to whether that is true.

I think flatting is bad as youre praying to hit a T and even when you do youre not necessarily getting Justin to stack off and youre not going to outplay him when you dont hit a T. Whether its a shove/fold is pretty much dependent on your image and how it would be perceived by him, but given that youre drunk youre probably only going to get JJ/AK to fold some of the time so i would lean towards fold.