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Title: Jacks, Double or Nothing scenario
Post by: TightEnd on August 27, 2009, 11:31:02 AM
Double or Nothing SNG, 5 paid

PokerStars Game #32108751682: Tournament #190454018, $50+$2 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2009/08/27 5:50:07 ET
Table '190454018 1' 10-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: SantaZzz (1600 in chips)
Seat 4: Prewie (2485 in chips)
Seat 5: DeDachs (1280 in chips)
Seat 6: Norrda (1030 in chips)
Seat 7: Konnopke (2290 in chips)
Seat 8: wudiyg (4045 in chips)
Seat 9: VK_074 (1055 in chips)
Seat 10: sibrek (1215 in chips)
SantaZzz: posts the ante 15
Prewie: posts the ante 15
DeDachs: posts the ante 15
Norrda: posts the ante 15
Konnopke: posts the ante 15
wudiyg: posts the ante 15
VK_074: posts the ante 15
sibrek: posts the ante 15
Prewie: posts small blind 75
DeDachs: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Prewie [Jh Jd]
Norrda: folds
Konnopke: folds
wudiyg: folds
VK_074: raises 890 to 1040 and is all-in
sibrek: folds
SantaZzz: raises 545 to 1585 and is all-in


900 if you call and lose

The win locked up if you scoop

Your decision is?

Very tight table, but it's moving time for anyone 1500 or below in these


Title: Re: Jacks, Double or Nothing scenario
Post by: bolt pp on August 27, 2009, 11:44:00 AM
call


Title: Re: Jacks, Double or Nothing scenario
Post by: Longy on August 27, 2009, 11:48:04 AM
Is Santazzz tight/comptent? If so this is a clear pass, in fact i would need a read they are bad to call here.


Title: Re: Jacks, Double or Nothing scenario
Post by: TightEnd on August 27, 2009, 11:50:41 AM
Is Santazzz tight/comptent? If so this is a clear pass, in fact i would need a read they are bad to call here.

Not a lot of info, but nothing to suggest he is anything other than an ABC player in these

That doesn't necessarily mean he can't have 77+ A10+ but in my mind precluded anything much worse


Title: Re: Jacks, Double or Nothing scenario
Post by: EvilPie on August 27, 2009, 11:54:51 AM
Is Santazzz tight/comptent? If so this is a clear pass, in fact i would need a read they are bad to call here.

So what do we need to call?

I had a similar situation in a DoN recently with AK and made the laydown although we were down to 7 and I was 3rd in chips so slightly different I guess.

Is this hand only a call with KK or AA?


Title: Re: Jacks, Double or Nothing scenario
Post by: thetank on August 27, 2009, 12:03:55 PM
I can't see this being a call against standard opposition, and would likely sigh before folding QQ and AKs too.

3 way action is an equity disaster


Title: Re: Jacks, Double or Nothing scenario
Post by: Longy on August 27, 2009, 12:42:58 PM
Is Santazzz tight/comptent? If so this is a clear pass, in fact i would need a read they are bad to call here.

So what do we need to call?

I had a similar situation in a DoN recently with AK and made the laydown although we were down to 7 and I was 3rd in chips so slightly different I guess.

Is this hand only a call with KK or AA?

Yeah kk+ looks good, queens is close and much better than calling with ak here.


Title: Re: Jacks, Double or Nothing scenario
Post by: MC on August 27, 2009, 12:54:10 PM
It's def a fold in a DoN

AK is a fold too, QQ is borderline and I'd have a tough time folding it...


Title: Re: Jacks, Double or Nothing scenario
Post by: boldie on August 27, 2009, 12:58:26 PM
I'll fold in a double or nothing ...and quite fast as well.


Title: Re: Jacks, Double or Nothing scenario
Post by: gatso on August 27, 2009, 01:53:56 PM
really, really, really easy fold. that's 3 reallys


Title: Re: Jacks, Double or Nothing scenario
Post by: bolt pp on August 27, 2009, 02:15:33 PM
really, really, really easy fold. that's 3 reallys

if you had said 5 i'd change my mind, 3? pffft, no thanks, i might know fck all about stts but untill i see some serious reallys its a call all day long


Title: Re: Jacks, Double or Nothing scenario
Post by: gatso on August 27, 2009, 02:17:38 PM
really, really, really easy fold. that's 3 reallys

if you had said 5 i'd change my mind, 3? pffft, no thanks, i might know fck all about stts but untill i see some serious reallys its a call all day long

for future info TT would've got 5 reallys. there is no hand that gets 4 in this situation


Title: Re: Jacks, Double or Nothing scenario
Post by: Cf on August 27, 2009, 02:18:32 PM
really, really, really easy fold. that's 3 reallys

if you had said 5 i'd change my mind, 3? pffft, no thanks, i might know fck all about stts but untill i see some serious reallys its a call all day long

for future info TT would've got 5 reallys. there is no hand that gets 4 in this situation

What about JT?


Title: Re: Jacks, Double or Nothing scenario
Post by: bolt pp on August 27, 2009, 02:21:54 PM
really, really, really easy fold. that's 3 reallys

if you had said 5 i'd change my mind, 3? pffft, no thanks, i might know fck all about stts but untill i see some serious reallys its a call all day long

for future info TT would've got 5 reallys. there is no hand that gets 4 in this situation

AQ suited(and it's the lucky suit you always make a flush with)?


Title: Re: Jacks, Double or Nothing scenario
Post by: gatso on August 27, 2009, 02:45:56 PM
really, really, really easy fold. that's 3 reallys

if you had said 5 i'd change my mind, 3? pffft, no thanks, i might know fck all about stts but untill i see some serious reallys its a call all day long

for future info TT would've got 5 reallys. there is no hand that gets 4 in this situation

AQ suited(and it's the lucky suit you always make a flush with)?

if it's your lucky suit then why would it be a really, really, really, really, easy fold? it'd be a call


Title: Re: Jacks, Double or Nothing scenario
Post by: TightEnd on August 27, 2009, 07:40:02 PM
Prewie: folds


55 and AJ shown


Title: Re: Jacks, Double or Nothing scenario
Post by: gatso on August 27, 2009, 07:53:20 PM
Prewie: folds


55 and AJ shown


this would be best case if you called and you're still only 50/50 to win the hand. it's close to being a fold if you can see their cards