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Title: 8 players left in 45 manner
Post by: paulhouk03 on August 28, 2009, 04:47:33 PM
Full Tilt Poker Game #14321796262: $10 + $1 Sit & Go (105397633), Table 1 - 400/800 - No Limit Hold'em - 11:38:39 ET - 2009/08/28
Seat 1: PythagorasSamos (5,530)
Seat 2: jocky_es (10,090)
Seat 3: bcartervol98 (7,750)
Seat 4: dioniso77 (10,265)
Seat 5: manki010 (11,950)
Seat 7: mlowery (8,629)
Seat 8: ImBlufnU (5,355)
Seat 9: notorious p (7,931)
notorious p posts the small blind of 400
PythagorasSamos posts the big blind of 800
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to notorious p [Qc Qd]
jocky_es folds
bcartervol98 raises to 7,750, and is all in
dioniso77 folds
manki010 calls 7,750
mlowery folds
ImBlufnU folds
notorious p ???

fold ?


Title: Re: 8 players left in 45 manner
Post by: Longy on August 28, 2009, 04:50:26 PM
I call, 6 pay right?


Title: Re: 8 players left in 45 manner
Post by: GreekStein on August 28, 2009, 04:52:00 PM
I call, 6 pay right?


I reraise all in.


Title: Re: 8 players left in 45 manner
Post by: paulhouk03 on August 28, 2009, 04:52:36 PM
I call, 6 pay right?

yes 6 get paid
tough spot i think insta jam and call makes my hand abit crappy.

call and hope for ak ak?


Title: Re: 8 players left in 45 manner
Post by: thetank on August 28, 2009, 05:00:55 PM
This is a call for me, but I defo pass JJ and AQ here.


Title: Re: 8 players left in 45 manner
Post by: gatso on August 28, 2009, 05:09:11 PM
shoveaments. why are we even thinking about it?


Title: Re: 8 players left in 45 manner
Post by: Longy on August 28, 2009, 05:23:41 PM
shoveaments. why are we even thinking about it?

Cos we have to beat 2 hands not to bubble, I think it is a call but it isn't as clear as it seems.


Title: Re: 8 players left in 45 manner
Post by: gatso on August 28, 2009, 05:27:30 PM
shoveaments. why are we even thinking about it?

Cos we have to beat 2 hands not to bubble, I think it is a call but it isn't as clear as it seems.

far too negative a view. we need QQ to hold to have more than double 2nd place chips. no point playing these 45 manners if you're going to be scared of the bubble


Title: Re: 8 players left in 45 manner
Post by: Longy on August 28, 2009, 05:29:11 PM
shoveaments. why are we even thinking about it?

Cos we have to beat 2 hands not to bubble, I think it is a call but it isn't as clear as it seems.

far too negative a view. we need QQ to hold to have more than double 2nd place chips. no point playing these 45 manners if you're going to be scared of the bubble

Lol, sure am falling for that level.


Title: Re: 8 players left in 45 manner
Post by: thetank on August 28, 2009, 05:33:19 PM
shoveaments. why are we even thinking about it?

Cos we have to beat 2 hands not to bubble, I think it is a call but it isn't as clear as it seems.

far too negative a view. we need QQ to hold to have more than double 2nd place chips. no point playing these 45 manners if you're going to be scared of the bubble

It's not like there's $5k up top


Title: Re: 8 players left in 45 manner
Post by: gatso on August 28, 2009, 05:42:49 PM
shoveaments. why are we even thinking about it?

Cos we have to beat 2 hands not to bubble, I think it is a call but it isn't as clear as it seems.

far too negative a view. we need QQ to hold to have more than double 2nd place chips. no point playing these 45 manners if you're going to be scared of the bubble

Lol, sure am falling for that level.

sigh. can I have another go then?

fold, they always have AA at this level


Title: Re: 8 players left in 45 manner
Post by: paulhouk03 on August 28, 2009, 05:48:46 PM
should we fold and find better spots to get more chips as ppl play pretty passivly around the bubble.



Title: Re: 8 players left in 45 manner
Post by: Cf on August 28, 2009, 05:51:27 PM
should we fold and find better spots to get more chips as ppl play pretty passivly around the bubble.



Do they? I don't have a great deal of experience at 45mans but whenver I've played them the bubble never seems to last more than a couple of hands.


Title: Re: 8 players left in 45 manner
Post by: thetank on August 28, 2009, 05:52:56 PM
fk better spots with 10 big blinds

call then win then absolutely pwn the bubble.

should we fold and find better spots to get more chips as ppl play pretty passivly around the bubble.



Do they? I don't have a great deal of experience at 45mans but whenver I've played them the bubble never seems to last more than a couple of hands.

Sometimes they do go quite passive yeah, but all the more reason to follow the call win pwn bubble line


Title: Re: 8 players left in 45 manner
Post by: gatso on August 28, 2009, 05:56:58 PM
in a vacuum this is a 100% ai

with stats I can find a pass but very rarely, the caller needs to be very tight. I'm not concerned about the opener


Title: Re: 8 players left in 45 manner
Post by: MC on August 28, 2009, 06:49:30 PM
This is a call for me, but I defo pass JJ and AQ here.

Agree with this

100% QQ is a shove, JJ and AQ are folds and AK is a bloody tough decision


Title: Re: 8 players left in 45 manner
Post by: paulhouk03 on August 28, 2009, 06:52:17 PM
well i called but i  wasnt thrilled about it

opener had kk and insta caller had ak and i lost

but thinking about it i might of found a fold if it was a big tourney


Title: Re: 8 players left in 45 manner
Post by: salfi on September 02, 2009, 12:58:20 AM
in a big tourney u wont be sat so shallow but im still fist pumping then cryin if they show me better .  folding qq here is horendous if the payout is same as stars . 1.5 buy ins bk for just in the money. his range for shoving 10blinds is surely 88 plus aq im folding qq here like never ever ever ever ever evr evr evr evr ever ever blah blah blah blah blah. u get the point im guessing.


Title: Re: 8 players left in 45 manner
Post by: salfi on September 02, 2009, 01:00:35 AM
This is a call for me, but I defo pass JJ and AQ here.

Agree with this

100% QQ is a shove, JJ and AQ are folds and AK is a bloody tough decision
  as my mate says u have to allow for random clown factor shoves. ak call me thinks and watch the odd moron show down ace suited for sh1ts and giggles.


Title: Re: 8 players left in 45 manner
Post by: paulhouk03 on September 02, 2009, 01:29:19 AM
This is a call for me, but I defo pass JJ and AQ here.

Agree with this

100% QQ is a shove, JJ and AQ are folds and AK is a bloody tough decision
  as my mate says u have to allow for random clown factor shoves. ak call me thinks and watch the odd moron show down ace suited for sh1ts and giggles.

in my mind i was never folding but i was just seeing what other ppl will say i dont think i will fold ak either
i think i have folded QQ preflop twice


Title: Re: 8 players left in 45 manner
Post by: AlexMartin on September 02, 2009, 03:40:19 AM
in a big tourney u wont be sat so shallow but im still fist pumping then cryin if they show me better .  folding qq here is horendous if the payout is same as stars . 1.5 buy ins bk for just in the money. his range for shoving 10blinds is surely 88 plus aq im folding qq here like never ever ever ever ever evr evr evr evr ever ever blah blah blah blah blah. u get the point im guessing.

+1, in a big tournie im way more inclined to get it in, unless its live of course, when ppls range for felting here should be purely power aces.


Title: Re: 8 players left in 45 manner
Post by: ALASKAN5IVE on September 02, 2009, 07:23:08 AM
hand in the air shouting "im all in" seems appropriate - sure gonna win SNGs by folding queens here......