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Title: Value bet or pot control? Post by: Autobetkev on August 28, 2009, 05:46:57 PM Level 1 APAT world championships. 15 mins in. Stacks 10k (give or take). Blinds 25/50...
UTG (player been involved in 3 or 4 pots so far) limps, I raise to 175 from UTG +1 with Ahrt Ac, UTG calls..... Flop Kh 5d 3s, check, I bet 300, he calls. Turn 2s, check, I bet 550, he calls. River 5c, he checks, what now? Title: Re: Value bet or pot control? Post by: Longy on August 28, 2009, 05:52:28 PM Take him to valuetown, something like 1000 imo.
Title: Re: Value bet or pot control? Post by: maldini32 on August 28, 2009, 05:53:38 PM Take him to valuetown, something like 1000 imo. Title: Re: Value bet or pot control? Post by: boldie on August 28, 2009, 07:20:30 PM Take him to valuetown, something like 1000 imo. Title: Re: Value bet or pot control? Post by: GreekStein on August 28, 2009, 07:24:21 PM Yeah bet 100% of the time.
Bet/fold Title: Re: Value bet or pot control? Post by: MC on August 28, 2009, 07:59:47 PM Title: Re: Value bet or pot control? Post by: paulhouk03 on August 28, 2009, 08:04:15 PM +1
this is still the first level Title: Re: Value bet or pot control? Post by: Longy on August 28, 2009, 08:06:23 PM +1 this is definitely a level FYP Title: Re: Value bet or pot control? Post by: GreekStein on August 28, 2009, 08:11:19 PM Are u fcking joking? +1 this is definitely a level FYP I hope so la la la la long long le long longley Title: Re: Value bet or pot control? Post by: gatso on August 28, 2009, 08:13:21 PM paul/fido
what are we beating when he raises the river? Title: Re: Value bet or pot control? Post by: paulhouk03 on August 28, 2009, 08:20:42 PM a random king
but i supose it depends on his raise size but i doubt he will raise on the river that often Title: Re: Value bet or pot control? Post by: GreekStein on August 28, 2009, 08:22:38 PM a random king but i supose it depends on his raise size but i doubt he will raise on the river that often a random king with another random king u mean? Title: Re: Value bet or pot control? Post by: Longy on August 28, 2009, 08:37:44 PM a random king but i supose it depends on his raise size but i doubt he will raise on the river that often A random king that villian doesn't raise the flop or turn, but suddenly think he is ahead after hero has fired every street. Also given this is live in APAT event the chance of villian turning his hand into a bluff is very small here. I might break my wrist cos I am folding so quickly here if i get check raised on the river. Title: Re: Value bet or pot control? Post by: boldie on August 28, 2009, 08:44:39 PM a random king but i supose it depends on his raise size but i doubt he will raise on the river that often nonononononononono. A random king never ever checkraises you here. Title: Re: Value bet or pot control? Post by: MC on August 28, 2009, 10:20:30 PM I was kinda pissing about but semi-serious
What are we losing to other than 33s full and quad fives? Title: Re: Value bet or pot control? Post by: George2Loose on August 28, 2009, 10:52:36 PM bet/fold obv
Title: Re: Value bet or pot control? Post by: MC on August 28, 2009, 10:58:26 PM a random king but i supose it depends on his raise size but i doubt he will raise on the river that often nonononononononono. A random king never ever checkraises you here. I agree, but with the exception of AK You're all telling me if we bet 1k on the river, and villain min raises, you're snap folding? In this circumstance we're getting 3 to 1 on a call and I reckon he has AK enough times in relation to his 33s full and quad fives to call. Title: Re: Value bet or pot control? Post by: Longy on August 28, 2009, 11:03:49 PM a random king but i supose it depends on his raise size but i doubt he will raise on the river that often nonononononononono. A random king never ever checkraises you here. I agree, but with the exception of AK You're all telling me if we bet 1k on the river, and villain min raises, you're snap folding? In this circumstance we're getting 3 to 1 on a call and I reckon he has AK enough times in relation to his 33s full and quad fives to call. He limp called ak pre and then check called two streets, then c/r the river? Title: Re: Value bet or pot control? Post by: MC on August 28, 2009, 11:08:13 PM a random king but i supose it depends on his raise size but i doubt he will raise on the river that often nonononononononono. A random king never ever checkraises you here. I agree, but with the exception of AK You're all telling me if we bet 1k on the river, and villain min raises, you're snap folding? In this circumstance we're getting 3 to 1 on a call and I reckon he has AK enough times in relation to his 33s full and quad fives to call. He limp called ak pre and then check called two streets, then c/r the river? I agree it's a weird line...but isn't it a weird line for things that beat us as well? Wouldn't he check raise a set on the turn? Title: Re: Value bet or pot control? Post by: Longy on August 28, 2009, 11:18:10 PM I think his line (if he did c/r which is hypothetical) is more likely to be a5s,45s,56s more than ak. The villian describe in the OP doesn't sound particularly solid tbh.
Title: Re: Value bet or pot control? Post by: MC on August 28, 2009, 11:24:57 PM I think his line (if he did c/r which is hypothetical) is more likely to be a5s,45s,56s more than ak. The villian describe in the OP doesn't sound particularly solid tbh. Yeah fair play, I guess I wasn't really figuring in these types of hand with him limping UTG, but that's probably not a good assumption to make. Title: Re: Value bet or pot control? Post by: keilan303 on August 28, 2009, 11:26:11 PM Aspades 5s or Ks Js ?? I think Check Call is his plan for river, he's probably lead if the board didn't pair on the river.....value bet and take it down!
Title: Re: Value bet or pot control? Post by: Blatch on August 29, 2009, 01:02:56 AM fold pre
Title: Re: Value bet or pot control? Post by: mondatoo on August 29, 2009, 09:17:41 AM Congrats if your the kev smith with 120k stack gl
Title: Re: Value bet or pot control? Post by: George2Loose on August 29, 2009, 01:00:07 PM Congrats if your the kev smith with 120k stack gl Obvioulsy he is- he runs like God! Title: Re: Value bet or pot control? Post by: dousche on August 29, 2009, 01:13:05 PM Congrats if your the kev smith with 120k stack gl Obvioulsy he is- he runs like God on day 1! FYP Title: Re: Value bet or pot control? Post by: Blatch on August 29, 2009, 01:20:39 PM Congrats if your the kev smith with 120k stack gl Obvioulsy he is- he runs like God until even God gets bored of saving him! FYP FYP FYP Title: Re: Value bet or pot control? Post by: Blatch on August 29, 2009, 01:21:28 PM oh and its not really pot control by checking the river.
Title: Re: Value bet or pot control? Post by: George2Loose on August 29, 2009, 01:22:52 PM oh and its not really pot control by checking the river. lol Title: Re: Value bet or pot control? Post by: AlexMartin on August 30, 2009, 01:34:58 PM b/f, villain dependant but 99% cant bluff here or valueship worse. Would be sick to get jammed on and shown AK though.
Title: Re: Value bet or pot control? Post by: ALASKAN5IVE on September 06, 2009, 07:57:12 AM o my obv value towning the shit outta the guy like 1325 imo but obv bet fold - how could you poss bet snap?? surely a level????
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