Title: Man U v Arsenal Post by: rossfourfive on August 29, 2009, 06:02:40 PM Anyone got a link to watch online?
Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: gatso on August 29, 2009, 06:22:13 PM http://www.p2p4u.net/watch-live-sports.php?id=4644&link=1
http://www.p2p4u.net/watch-live-sports.php?id=4644&link=2 http://www.p2p4u.net/watch-live-sports.php?id=4644&link=3 http://www.p2p4u.net/watch-live-sports.php?id=4644&link=4 http://www.p2p4u.net/watch-live-sports.php?id=4644&link=5 http://atdhe.net/8857/watch-manchester-united-vs-arsenal http://atdhe.net/8959/watch-manchester-united-vs-arsenal http://atdhe.net/8958/watch-manchester-united-vs-arsenal Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: rossfourfive on August 29, 2009, 06:24:49 PM thanks
Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: gatso on August 29, 2009, 06:25:10 PM 2nd one looks best atm
Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: rossfourfive on August 29, 2009, 07:18:22 PM Great game. Arsenal very unlucky not to get something out of that.
Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: cambo on August 29, 2009, 07:18:32 PM weeeeeeee wp man utd got me out for the day ty
Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: mondatoo on August 29, 2009, 07:26:29 PM Really good 2nd half,few points tho:
-Will Eboue now get a 2 game ban for diving when he got booked or do you not get a ban for cheating if your booked (i no prem rules are diff to champs lge but i presume this is the new rules) -Why are refs such knobs,why waste time sending wenger off when the games just about to finish when he could do it afterwards and what was it for, if it was for kicking the bottle then what a joke,does he now get a touchline ban -How good is diaby,despite his og looked vv good today heard comparisons with him to vieira which looks like it is the case,mbn to have a manager that good at finding unknown talent Unlucky arsenal imo played well Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: Rod Paradise on August 29, 2009, 08:06:14 PM Really good 2nd half,few points tho: -Will Eboue now get a 2 game ban for diving when he got booked or do you not get a ban for cheating if your booked (i no prem rules are diff to champs lge but i presume this is the new rules) -Why are refs such knobs,why waste time sending wenger off when the games just about to finish when he could do it afterwards and what was it for, if it was for kicking the bottle then what a joke,does he now get a touchline ban -How good is diaby,despite his og looked vv good today heard comparisons with him to vieira which looks like it is the case,mbn to have a manager that good at finding unknown talent Unlucky arsenal imo played well Arsenal did play well & I thought they were going to win it. The offence Eduardo is up for is deceiving the ref - Eboue didn't manage to so I doubt he can be charged for his dive. Didn't see what Wenger got sent off for - was watching, but didn't see anything worth a red - but he deserves the book thrown at him for the 'protest' when he climbed into the stand. Diaby is a hell of a player, I agreed with Andy Gray though (which does have me seething) - the keeper let him down. Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: mondatoo on August 29, 2009, 08:24:59 PM Really good 2nd half,few points tho: -Will Eboue now get a 2 game ban for diving when he got booked or do you not get a ban for cheating if your booked (i no prem rules are diff to champs lge but i presume this is the new rules) -Why are refs such knobs,why waste time sending wenger off when the games just about to finish when he could do it afterwards and what was it for, if it was for kicking the bottle then what a joke,does he now get a touchline ban -How good is diaby,despite his og looked vv good today heard comparisons with him to vieira which looks like it is the case,mbn to have a manager that good at finding unknown talent Unlucky arsenal imo played well Arsenal did play well & I thought they were going to win it. The offence Eduardo is up for is deceiving the ref - Eboue didn't manage to so I doubt he can be charged for his dive. Didn't see what Wenger got sent off for - was watching, but didn't see anything worth a red - but he deserves the book thrown at him for the 'protest' when he climbed into the stand. Diaby is a hell of a player, I agreed with Andy Gray though (which does have me seething) - the keeper let him down. Is this not madness though ? They both did exactly the same thing just in different areas of the pitch surely it's the act of cheating that is being punished not whether you get away with it or not.Fair enough if there trying to cut out diving from the game which is obv a good thing but don't only punish those who got away with it after the game Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: Graham C on August 29, 2009, 08:26:09 PM Didn't see what Wenger got sent off for - was watching, but didn't see anything worth a red - but he deserves the book thrown at him for the 'protest' when he climbed into the stand. Ref sends him off with about 10 seconds left in the game - where's he supposed to go? The exit to the pitch area is right down in the corner, if he'd have trekked down there, the game would have had to be on hold till he was out of the pitch area. By being sent off, he had to leave the technical areas and can go into the stands, perhaps where he choose wasn't the best place to go, but I can't see how he had a lot of choice with the time in the game left. It was a ridiculous decision by the ref, I hardly think Wenger deserves the book thrown at him for that. Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: henrik777 on August 29, 2009, 08:32:21 PM Didn't see what Wenger got sent off for - was watching, but didn't see anything worth a red - but he deserves the book thrown at him for the 'protest' when he climbed into the stand. Ref sends him off with about 10 seconds left in the game - where's he supposed to go? The exit to the pitch area is right down in the corner, if he'd have trekked down there, the game would have had to be on hold till he was out of the pitch area. By being sent off, he had to leave the technical areas and can go into the stands, perhaps where he choose wasn't the best place to go, but I can't see how he had a lot of choice with the time in the game left. It was a ridiculous decision by the ref, I hardly think Wenger deserves the book thrown at him for that. If that had been the West Ham v Milwall game you wouldn't be saying that and he probably wouldn't have escaped unharmed. Sandy Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: Karabiner on August 29, 2009, 08:39:47 PM Really good 2nd half,few points tho: -Will Eboue now get a 2 game ban for diving when he got booked or do you not get a ban for cheating if your booked (i no prem rules are diff to champs lge but i presume this is the new rules) -Why are refs such knobs,why waste time sending wenger off when the games just about to finish when he could do it afterwards and what was it for, if it was for kicking the bottle then what a joke,does he now get a touchline ban -How good is diaby,despite his og looked vv good today heard comparisons with him to vieira which looks like it is the case,mbn to have a manager that good at finding unknown talent Unlucky arsenal imo played well Didn't see what Wenger got sent off for - was watching, but didn't see anything worth a red - but he deserves the book thrown at him for the 'protest' when he climbed into the stand. Which "book" would that be Rod ? Apparently there is nowhere to go behind the away bench hence AW's confusion, it was not a protest. I am starting to think that you may be certifiably bonkers but I'll still give you a big kiss at BB8 :-* Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: Graham C on August 29, 2009, 08:48:33 PM Didn't see what Wenger got sent off for - was watching, but didn't see anything worth a red - but he deserves the book thrown at him for the 'protest' when he climbed into the stand. Ref sends him off with about 10 seconds left in the game - where's he supposed to go? The exit to the pitch area is right down in the corner, if he'd have trekked down there, the game would have had to be on hold till he was out of the pitch area. By being sent off, he had to leave the technical areas and can go into the stands, perhaps where he choose wasn't the best place to go, but I can't see how he had a lot of choice with the time in the game left. It was a ridiculous decision by the ref, I hardly think Wenger deserves the book thrown at him for that. If that had been the West Ham v Milwall game you wouldn't be saying that and he probably wouldn't have escaped unharmed. Sandy If it was the West Ham Millwall game, he'd have wondered off down the tunnel ::) Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: nirvana on August 29, 2009, 09:08:15 PM How much contact was there on Rooney before he started falling over. none
Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: George2Loose on August 29, 2009, 09:20:39 PM How much contact was there on Rooney before he started falling over. none lol Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: Rod Paradise on August 29, 2009, 10:37:28 PM Really good 2nd half,few points tho: -Will Eboue now get a 2 game ban for diving when he got booked or do you not get a ban for cheating if your booked (i no prem rules are diff to champs lge but i presume this is the new rules) -Why are refs such knobs,why waste time sending wenger off when the games just about to finish when he could do it afterwards and what was it for, if it was for kicking the bottle then what a joke,does he now get a touchline ban -How good is diaby,despite his og looked vv good today heard comparisons with him to vieira which looks like it is the case,mbn to have a manager that good at finding unknown talent Unlucky arsenal imo played well Didn't see what Wenger got sent off for - was watching, but didn't see anything worth a red - but he deserves the book thrown at him for the 'protest' when he climbed into the stand. Which "book" would that be Rod ? Apparently there is nowhere to go behind the away bench hence AW's confusion, it was not a protest. I am starting to think that you may be certifiably bonkers but I'll still give you a big kiss at BB8 :-* The bringing the game into disrepute "book". You're not telling me the manager doesn't know where to go at Old Trafford - as ridiculous excuses for shite behaviour goes you're excelling yourself now. I very much doubt that my honest opiions make me certifiable or bonkers but if I was going to the bash I'd allow the kiss (http://www.thehuddleboard.com/hb/images/smilies/Chunky%20Smileys/moon.gif) Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: WarBwastard on August 29, 2009, 10:59:33 PM (http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t189/Doyourow/dvsjdw.gif)
This is a dive. Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: cambo on August 29, 2009, 11:05:45 PM semi amusing arsenal got another playing booked for diving
Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: Josedinho on August 29, 2009, 11:08:11 PM (http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t189/Doyourow/dvsjdw.gif) This is a penalty. Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: sovietsong on August 29, 2009, 11:10:00 PM (http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t189/Doyourow/dvsjdw.gif) This is a penalty. 2 game ban pls. no difference in between this and eduardo other than the celtic keeper wasnt as stupid as alumunia, if the keeper had managed to pull out rooney would have gone down exactly the same. this whole diving this is a joke. Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: Josedinho on August 29, 2009, 11:13:22 PM So there isn't a difference apart from the difference?
Players can get fouled in whatever position they liked, you can get fouled with your feet of the ground. If Almunia stays on his line Rooney doesn't hit the deck here. Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: sovietsong on August 29, 2009, 11:15:27 PM So there isn't a difference apart from the difference? Players can get fouled in whatever position they liked, you can get fouled with your feet of the ground. If Almunia stays on his line Rooney doesn't hit the deck here. not really sure on your point? look at rooneys feet before almunia touches him. your kidding yourself if you dont think he was going down in the exact same way eduardo did Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: Josedinho on August 29, 2009, 11:21:17 PM So there isn't a difference apart from the difference? Players can get fouled in whatever position they liked, you can get fouled with your feet of the ground. If Almunia stays on his line Rooney doesn't hit the deck here. not really sure on your point? look at rooneys feet before almunia touches him. your kidding yourself if you dont think he was going down in the exact same way eduardo did Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: gatso on August 29, 2009, 11:23:21 PM So there isn't a difference apart from the difference? Players can get fouled in whatever position they liked, you can get fouled with your feet of the ground. If Almunia stays on his line Rooney doesn't hit the deck here. not really sure on your point? look at rooneys feet before almunia touches him. your kidding yourself if you dont think he was going down in the exact same way eduardo did yes, but almunia has clattered into him. 100% of refs give this as a penalty 100% of the time as that's what the rules tell them to do Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: WarBwastard on August 29, 2009, 11:24:36 PM So there isn't a difference apart from the difference? Players can get fouled in whatever position they liked, you can get fouled with your feet of the ground. If Almunia stays on his line Rooney doesn't hit the deck here. not really sure on your point? look at rooneys feet before almunia touches him. your kidding yourself if you dont think he was going down in the exact same way eduardo did There has to be intent for it to be a foul, just contact is not enough. Football is still a contact sport. So there can be a situation where it's not a foul or a dive, just a coming together of bodies. If contact was enough for a foul there'd be a free kick every 30 seconds. This was a dive though. He's dragging his feet before Almunia touches him. Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: Josedinho on August 29, 2009, 11:27:17 PM There doesn't even have to be contact. Rooney could have dived over Almunia and the ref could have given it for intent to foul. (Gerrard V Sheffield United) If Rooney stood still he would have been taken down so the fact he dragged his feet doesn't matter. The intent to foul was there.
Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: sovietsong on August 29, 2009, 11:27:56 PM So there isn't a difference apart from the difference? Players can get fouled in whatever position they liked, you can get fouled with your feet of the ground. If Almunia stays on his line Rooney doesn't hit the deck here. not really sure on your point? look at rooneys feet before almunia touches him. your kidding yourself if you dont think he was going down in the exact same way eduardo did yes, but almunia has clattered into him. 100% of refs give this as a penalty 100% of the time as that's what the rules tell them to do of course all refs give it but is it not crazy to give eduardo all this grief and then say that its ok for rooney to dive because after he is on his way down almunia clatters him? Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: The Baron on August 29, 2009, 11:29:52 PM I hate Rooney and I hate Man U but that's not a dive - that's winning a penalty.
Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: WarBwastard on August 29, 2009, 11:30:48 PM There doesn't even have to be contact. Rooney could have dived over Almunia and the ref could have given it for intent to foul. (Gerrard V Sheffield United) If Rooney stood still he would have been taken down so the fact he dragged his feet doesn't matter. The intent to foul was there. So why such a furore over Eduardo's "dive"? The justification for calling him a cheat was that there was no contact. Which there was anyway when his legs caught Eduardo. Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: sovietsong on August 29, 2009, 11:32:12 PM I hate Rooney and I hate Man U but that's not a dive - that's winning a penalty. lol - does this mean we should accept it as part of the game? is diving the new cruyff turn? Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: Josedinho on August 29, 2009, 11:33:51 PM This has got to be some sort of tag team level.
Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: sovietsong on August 29, 2009, 11:34:46 PM This has got to be some sort of tag team level. if everybody is saying your wrong its time to realise maybe you are... Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: The Baron on August 29, 2009, 11:35:53 PM I hate Rooney and I hate Man U but that's not a dive - that's winning a penalty. lol - does this mean we should accept it as part of the game? is diving the new cruyff turn? As I said in my last post I dont see this as a dive. Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: gatso on August 29, 2009, 11:37:14 PM there's a huge difference
eduardo saw that there was there was never going to be contact so dived to win a penalty outside of the laws of the game rooney saw that the keeper was probably going to go through him and made 100% sure of the contact. all within the laws of the game, maybe he bent them but he didn't break them Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: Josedinho on August 29, 2009, 11:38:23 PM This has got to be some sort of tag team level. if everybody is saying your wrong its time to realise maybe you are... Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: sovietsong on August 29, 2009, 11:45:16 PM there's a huge difference eduardo saw that there was there was never going to be contact so dived to win a penalty outside of the laws of the game rooney saw that the keeper was probably going to go through him and made 100% sure of the contact. all within the laws of the game, maybe he bent them but he didn't break them i disagree that eduardo didnt expect contact, the keeper was coming at him much in the same way almunia was going at rooney. think i'm going to stop posting on this as its really going nowhere. i feel that rooney, gerrard, drogba, eduardo, ronaldo all do the same thing plus many more, they go down when they could stay up. this in my eyes is cheating, i understand why they do it and am not nieve, harry kewell did it vs derby (i think it was derby might have been bolton) and i was delighted that leeds won the game however its pathetic that grown men fall over like this - if no contact is made they are a cheat but if there is the lightest of touches then its ok because there is 'contact'. I am not saying that the touch of almunia today was light of course but you can see my point. Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: Karabiner on August 30, 2009, 12:53:56 PM Really good 2nd half,few points tho: -Will Eboue now get a 2 game ban for diving when he got booked or do you not get a ban for cheating if your booked (i no prem rules are diff to champs lge but i presume this is the new rules) -Why are refs such knobs,why waste time sending wenger off when the games just about to finish when he could do it afterwards and what was it for, if it was for kicking the bottle then what a joke,does he now get a touchline ban -How good is diaby,despite his og looked vv good today heard comparisons with him to vieira which looks like it is the case,mbn to have a manager that good at finding unknown talent Unlucky arsenal imo played well Didn't see what Wenger got sent off for - was watching, but didn't see anything worth a red - but he deserves the book thrown at him for the 'protest' when he climbed into the stand. Which "book" would that be Rod ? Apparently there is nowhere to go behind the away bench hence AW's confusion, it was not a protest. I am starting to think that you may be certifiably bonkers but I'll still give you a big kiss at BB8 :-* Any further comment on this Rod ? Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: sweet potata! on August 30, 2009, 12:54:57 PM I'm Kinda agreeing with Sov here, imo rooney gets the toe poke which is going nowhere then throws himself into Almunia.I'm not saying it wasn't a pen because Almunia of course gave Rooney the option to buy the pen, Rooney obviously said I'll have some of this and threw himself into him. It could be some sort of rough justice though because it tilts me hard how often keepers come storming out and take someone out of it when theres no danger at all.
Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: Scottish Dave on August 30, 2009, 12:59:05 PM Message to Wenger:
Ain't Karma a total Bitch! lol Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: Colchester Kev on August 30, 2009, 01:00:10 PM Really good 2nd half,few points tho: -Will Eboue now get a 2 game ban for diving when he got booked or do you not get a ban for cheating if your booked (i no prem rules are diff to champs lge but i presume this is the new rules) -Why are refs such knobs,why waste time sending wenger off when the games just about to finish when he could do it afterwards and what was it for, if it was for kicking the bottle then what a joke,does he now get a touchline ban -How good is diaby,despite his og looked vv good today heard comparisons with him to vieira which looks like it is the case,mbn to have a manager that good at finding unknown talent Unlucky arsenal imo played well Didn't see what Wenger got sent off for - was watching, but didn't see anything worth a red - but he deserves the book thrown at him for the 'protest' when he climbed into the stand. Which "book" would that be Rod ? Apparently there is nowhere to go behind the away bench hence AW's confusion, it was not a protest. I am starting to think that you may be certifiably bonkers but I'll still give you a big kiss at BB8 :-* Any further comment on this Rod ? The only amusing thing about all of this is that its Wenger, can you imagine how he would have reacted if it was a Celtic player that had dived and cost his team champions league football ? The real worrying thing is this ... Wenger isn't thick, he will be creating a siege mentality at @rse, and using all this to wind up his team and that spells danger to everyone they play. I don't agree that Eduardo should be singled out for punishment if there isn't consistency and the same punishment dished out week in week out to offending players !! Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: bolt pp on August 30, 2009, 01:07:33 PM Ain't Karma a total Bitch! I'm not sure this is the concept Buddha had in mind Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: mondatoo on August 30, 2009, 06:57:22 PM Really good 2nd half,few points tho: -Will Eboue now get a 2 game ban for diving when he got booked or do you not get a ban for cheating if your booked (i no prem rules are diff to champs lge but i presume this is the new rules) -Why are refs such knobs,why waste time sending wenger off when the games just about to finish when he could do it afterwards and what was it for, if it was for kicking the bottle then what a joke,does he now get a touchline ban -How good is diaby,despite his og looked vv good today heard comparisons with him to vieira which looks like it is the case,mbn to have a manager that good at finding unknown talent Unlucky arsenal imo played well Didn't see what Wenger got sent off for - was watching, but didn't see anything worth a red - but he deserves the book thrown at him for the 'protest' when he climbed into the stand. Which "book" would that be Rod ? Apparently there is nowhere to go behind the away bench hence AW's confusion, it was not a protest. I am starting to think that you may be certifiably bonkers but I'll still give you a big kiss at BB8 :-* Any further comment on this Rod ? The only amusing thing about all of this is that its Wenger, can you imagine how he would have reacted if it was a Celtic player that had dived and cost his team champions league football ? The real worrying thing is this ... Wenger isn't thick, he will be creating a siege mentality at @rse, and using all this to wind up his team and that spells danger to everyone they play. I don't agree that Eduardo should be singled out for punishment if there isn't consistency and the same punishment dished out week in week out to offending players !! Do you think it's fair that if a player gets caught and booked that should be the end of it whereas if he gets away with it then its a 2 game ban,this is bs imo.If eduardo gets a 2 game ban then every other player who dived this weekend should also get the same treatment.I'm guessing that'll be in the hundreds for all of europe,have fun uefa Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: henrik777 on August 30, 2009, 07:09:20 PM Quote have fun uefa Uefa do not administer national leagues. Sandy Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: sovietsong on August 30, 2009, 08:21:25 PM Quote have fun uefa Uefa do not administer national leagues. Sandy spoil sport. Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: Rod Paradise on August 30, 2009, 09:36:54 PM Really good 2nd half,few points tho: -Will Eboue now get a 2 game ban for diving when he got booked or do you not get a ban for cheating if your booked (i no prem rules are diff to champs lge but i presume this is the new rules) -Why are refs such knobs,why waste time sending wenger off when the games just about to finish when he could do it afterwards and what was it for, if it was for kicking the bottle then what a joke,does he now get a touchline ban -How good is diaby,despite his og looked vv good today heard comparisons with him to vieira which looks like it is the case,mbn to have a manager that good at finding unknown talent Unlucky arsenal imo played well Didn't see what Wenger got sent off for - was watching, but didn't see anything worth a red - but he deserves the book thrown at him for the 'protest' when he climbed into the stand. Which "book" would that be Rod ? Apparently there is nowhere to go behind the away bench hence AW's confusion, it was not a protest. I am starting to think that you may be certifiably bonkers but I'll still give you a big kiss at BB8 :-* Any further comment on this Rod ? Open your eyes & read the thread. PS as you like referring to the guidelines -look at the ones on trolling. Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: Karabiner on August 30, 2009, 10:03:02 PM Really good 2nd half,few points tho: -Will Eboue now get a 2 game ban for diving when he got booked or do you not get a ban for cheating if your booked (i no prem rules are diff to champs lge but i presume this is the new rules) -Why are refs such knobs,why waste time sending wenger off when the games just about to finish when he could do it afterwards and what was it for, if it was for kicking the bottle then what a joke,does he now get a touchline ban -How good is diaby,despite his og looked vv good today heard comparisons with him to vieira which looks like it is the case,mbn to have a manager that good at finding unknown talent Unlucky arsenal imo played well Didn't see what Wenger got sent off for - was watching, but didn't see anything worth a red - but he deserves the book thrown at him for the 'protest' when he climbed into the stand. Which "book" would that be Rod ? Apparently there is nowhere to go behind the away bench hence AW's confusion, it was not a protest. I am starting to think that you may be certifiably bonkers but I'll still give you a big kiss at BB8 :-* Any further comment on this Rod ? Open your eyes & read the thread. PS as you like referring to the guidelines -look at the ones on trolling. I'm referring to whether you might be inclined to modify your "throwing the book" at Wenger comment due to his bringing the game into disrepute now that Keith Hackett and the refs. association has decided to offer him an apology, ergo saying that not only did he do nothing worthy of censure but the 4th official was bang out of order if not quite certifiably bonkers. Is reminding you of your groundless and ridiculous comments now considered trolling ? A simple apology will suffice as I have no desire for my nether regions to be pecked ;) Title: Re: Man U v Arsenal Post by: TightEnd on August 30, 2009, 10:12:46 PM Locked thread
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