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Watch out world cup 2011 we're coming!

Our use of the batting powerplay is bordering on some of the worst tactical decisions of all time. We take it when 9 down and Jimmy Anderson in, pure genius.

Agreed

England have struggled for ages with this. The tried before to have it mid innings when a partnership was blooming and kept losing wickets as soon as they did take it.

I don't think the taking it late was as bad as the commentary team suggested as everytime it was nearly time to go they lost a wicket and someone had to get in first.

Sandy

[ ] england will keep this up until 2011.

i did say 5-2 so you will have 2 wins out the next 5 games

Agree that taking it just because a partnership is going well is v dodgy. Ideal timing must usually be between 37 to 44 - the more wickets down the earlier you take we. We just seem to have one very basic idea. Without KP we are very ordinary.

I hope you're right although I think you've levelled yourself

You'll be better in 2011 surely?

What does the powerplay entail?

I assume something to do with where the opposition is allowed to place fielders?

you'll be like a proper bloke soon with all this sporting knowledge you're picking up Matt

there's a circle marked 30 yards from the wicket. during powerplays only 2 fielders are allowed outside that circle. this means the batsmen can play more big strokes with less danger of being caught or having the ball stopped before it reaches the boundary

hmm, I'm pretty sure that you read the thread title, thought england had done well and then posted to say it won't last

I will however, against my better judgement, give you the benefit of the doubt

lol...unfortunately not..I actually watched Sky sports news too much to think this.

Seriously though..England should be much better next time, no?

There are 3 powerplays.

1. Automatic for the first 10 overs and only 2 players can be outside the 30 yard circle.
2. Bowling side for 5 overs when they choose and 3 fielders can be outside the 30 yard circle.
3. Batting side for 5 overs when they choose and 3 fielders can be outside the 30 yard circle.

Sandy

oh yeah, forgot it's 3 for the 2nd and 3rd ones

sandy, why do you know loads about cricket? seems odd for a scot

I always liked cricket maybe it was Freuchie winning the village cup that did it  ;D

I watch a ton of it and i have a great memory for random facts and stuff although if somebody called for you and i was to tell you i'd forget.

Sandy

do you support england in tests or is that taking it too far?

Not really.

The cricket commentary doesn't offend me so i'm relatively neutral and don't have the passion i do when the footballers fail to live up to the hype. (rugby is getting there !)

Grew up watching Botham, Richards etc and it's just great to watch. The only stuff i hate to watch is Aussies v Bangladesh/Zimbabwe as it's more a demonstration than a contest.

Sandy

Time to ask Australia if they wouldn't mind letting us play 11 batsmen and 5 bowlers  ::)

England are so bad at one day cricket.

They have the wrong mindset from the selectors down.

Ian bell has a decent one day record and doesn't tend to get bogged down too much. Paul Collingwood is too slow now and shouldn't be playing as his form is poor.

For me todays team should be (injuries i might have missed but some not KP)


Strauss
Key
Bell
Morgan
Prior
Wright
Mascarenhas
Broad
Rashid
Swann
Anderson



Positive players mostly and plenty bowling options.

Sandy

Can't understand why they leave Rashid out,he did ok at the oval.

Hope for his sake they don't end up taking him to SA and then not play him.

Time to invest in him imo

Typical England though. They only give them a chance if they are hopeless.

Do you think Tendulkar would have played International cricket at 16 if he was English ?  24 if he was lucky.

Sandy

Nice one Owais!

Please ICC make a special dispensation and let this clown bat with a runner.

Australia 158-8 can england win a game?

Strange that there's not one post on this thread when England are doing well,vvwp congrats to the team

Awesome watched the whole thing from start to finish.

Yea , I enjoyed that, Shah, Colly and Morgan in partic were very good. Nice too see them clattering a few 6's for once!

Was refusing to allow an obviouly injured batsman (Smith) a runner acceptable or ungentlemanly?

I'm undecided

he wasn't injured, he had cramp. it's a bit of a grey area but imo getting a runner for what is essentially fatigue is a bit odd

was it unsporting? possibly considering runners have certainly been allowed for the same before

Probably both. It was cramp. Got cramp from batting for too long, avoid cramp by getting yourself out. Strauss called back that Sri Lankan fella last game when he probably would have been run out even if he hadn't run into Onions. I think we've played our fair play card for the tournament.

VWP Vettori

No way we deserved that after what we did to New Zealand when they toured England.

If over was called , how could he be still out?

But still fair do's to Vettori. Seems a nice guy!

It looks from the replay that the throw was made before over was called then Colly steps out and ball hits wicket. I'm guessing Vettori was told this and then has to make the decision as it was technically out but Umpire feels he may have influenced it. If over had been called before the the throw the 3rd umpire just says not out doesn't he?

Cheers Jose & Gatso - I was reading a book but my Dad was going on about this as he watched the game. I was surprised that the opposing captain was even asked.