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Title: £100 freezeout. What now? Post by: Pelham Boy on September 14, 2009, 01:24:26 AM 30 minutes into a live £100 f/o. Starting stack 8k, i have 7.5k villain has roughly the same. Neither of us has been involved in any action so far.
Blinds 25/50, 2 early position limpers i make it 275 with Kd Kh, villain calls from the button, both limpers pass. Villain is a regular and some what old school, but i have rarely played with him. Flop Js 9h 6c i lead out for 375 he calls. Turn is Qs i bet 750, he makes it 1750. What should we do now? Title: Re: £100 freezeout. What now? Post by: paulhouk03 on September 14, 2009, 01:25:03 AM call
Title: Re: £100 freezeout. What now? Post by: GreekStein on September 14, 2009, 01:28:57 AM fold
Title: Re: £100 freezeout. What now? Post by: Longy on September 14, 2009, 01:33:51 AM I would fold, Baluga Theorem* ftw.
* Baluga theorem - Is when you get raised on the turn, after getting flatted on the flop, one pair is rarely good. Title: Re: £100 freezeout. What now? Post by: paulhouk03 on September 14, 2009, 01:38:55 AM I would fold, Baluga Theorem* ftw. live poker its full of donks* Baluga theorem - Is when you get raised on the turn, after getting flatted on the flop, one pair is rarely good. Title: Re: £100 freezeout. What now? Post by: GreekStein on September 14, 2009, 01:42:53 AM I would fold, Baluga Theorem* ftw. live poker its full of donks* Baluga theorem - Is when you get raised on the turn, after getting flatted on the flop, one pair is rarely good. Old school experienced live player v v rarely raises worse than KK here Title: Re: £100 freezeout. What now? Post by: paulhouk03 on September 14, 2009, 01:44:51 AM I would fold, Baluga Theorem* ftw. live poker its full of donks* Baluga theorem - Is when you get raised on the turn, after getting flatted on the flop, one pair is rarely good. Old school experienced live player v v rarely raises worse than KK here how do you know he is experienced? i think u have showdown value and u also have outs Title: Re: £100 freezeout. What now? Post by: AlexMartin on September 14, 2009, 01:50:28 AM fold fold, way more combos of hands that have u crushed than turned combodraws hes semibluffriasing with and i expect an old school live player to take this line as a bluff about 4% of the time. If hes making some big play, gl to him. Title: Re: £100 freezeout. What now? Post by: Longy on September 14, 2009, 01:57:41 AM I would fold, Baluga Theorem* ftw. live poker its full of donks* Baluga theorem - Is when you get raised on the turn, after getting flatted on the flop, one pair is rarely good. Old school experienced live player v v rarely raises worse than KK here how do you know he is experienced? i think u have showdown value and u also have outs It is in the OP that he is an old school live reg. Title: Re: £100 freezeout. What now? Post by: GreekStein on September 14, 2009, 01:58:03 AM how do you know he is experienced? Villain is a regular and some what old school, but i have rarely played with him. just a guess Title: Re: £100 freezeout. What now? Post by: titaniumbean on September 14, 2009, 02:03:54 AM Title: Re: £100 freezeout. What now? Post by: celtic on September 14, 2009, 02:08:13 AM fkin nits
that is all. Title: Re: £100 freezeout. What now? Post by: Pelham Boy on September 14, 2009, 02:10:25 AM I've been told the term 'old school' might be slightly mis leading. Maybe average or not good would be more accurate.
Title: Re: £100 freezeout. What now? Post by: Drain Alien on September 14, 2009, 09:28:40 AM I've been told the term 'old school' might be slightly mis leading. Maybe average or not good would be more accurate. Ao wot happened PB? Title: Re: £100 freezeout. What now? Post by: Pelham Boy on September 14, 2009, 04:31:01 PM Right, i call his re raise hoping to get to show down as cheaply as possible. The river is Ad i check to him and he shoves. I pass. He shows 8c 8s for the bluff.
Title: Re: £100 freezeout. What now? Post by: TightEnd on September 14, 2009, 04:32:41 PM I've been told the term 'old school' might be slightly mis leading. Maybe average or not good would be more accurate. Who was it? Notes need to be updated Title: Re: £100 freezeout. What now? Post by: Pelham Boy on September 14, 2009, 04:34:05 PM I've been told the term 'old school' might be slightly mis leading. Maybe average or not good would be more accurate. Who was it? Notes need to be updated Are you sitting down? Spanish!!! Title: Re: £100 freezeout. What now? Post by: TightEnd on September 14, 2009, 04:35:23 PM Wow, now that is a surprise
never thought he had it in him FWIW I pass on the turn to what I know/knew of him Title: Re: £100 freezeout. What now? Post by: Pelham Boy on September 14, 2009, 04:44:09 PM Wow, now that is a surprise never thought he had it in him FWIW I pass on the turn to what I know/knew of him Yep, totally outplayed. Was interested to see how people handle the turn bet. One fish who shall remain nameless suggested i should have re re raised. Title: Re: £100 freezeout. What now? Post by: celtic on September 14, 2009, 04:47:50 PM Wow, now that is a surprise never thought he had it in him FWIW I pass on the turn to what I know/knew of him Yep, totally outplayed. Was interested to see how people handle the turn bet. One fish who shall remain nameless suggested i should have re re raised. IT WAS ME!!! I find through past experience he stabs at pots with not a lot, and against spanish I'm ahead here most of the time. Was totally surprised with the move he made on the river though. Let's be honest how many decent players will make that move against pelham rock? Title: Re: £100 freezeout. What now? Post by: celtic on September 14, 2009, 04:50:49 PM Oh and my reasoning for re raising the turn was that if it come say a 2 on the end and spanish bets 2.5k, then jarv is calling him, think he also calls almost any non ace card or pairing card too imo.
Title: Re: £100 freezeout. What now? Post by: Chompy on September 14, 2009, 06:54:17 PM Unusually high-quality play from Spanfish.
Not much you can do here. MDD would have been all-in on the turn. Most others play it Title: Re: £100 freezeout. What now? Post by: scotty77 on September 14, 2009, 08:30:57 PM Only just saw this, haven't read any spoilers.
Ok I think that you are rarely good here. Depending on the player there are some hands that are semi-bluffing for value like Ts 9s but then it is so hard to be so range specific. However with your read I think it is unlikely that he's doing that. I prob sigh and fold, blinds still low and plenty of play left. If the cash game has just started then I insta-ship. Title: Re: £100 freezeout. What now? Post by: 810ofclubs on September 15, 2009, 12:31:52 PM fold turn, and imo check call turn ftwftw
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