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Title: Marginal hand oop Post by: ardeecee on September 20, 2009, 08:33:32 PM I'd welcome some views on this situation I tend to find myself in now and again being oop with a marginal hand. $40 mtt online, 50ish players left from 115, i'm in around 10th place in chips. Been at the table for about 3 orbits, villain has been pretty active while i've been at the table with little resistance and has just won a big pot to be near enough chip leader. Only hand he has shown was AA to win the big pot. Button ($11440.00) HERO SB SB ($17035.50)T(http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/heart.gif) J(http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/heart.gif) BB ($14960.00) UTG ($9942.50) UTG+1 ($17547.22) VILLAIN MP MP ($21437.48) MP ($9827.50) CO-1 ($10020.00) CO ($11433.38) Preflop: , 2 folds, MP raises to 678.00, 4 folds, SB raises to 1980.00, 1 fold, MP calls 1302.00. Flop (4410.00) 5(http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/diamond.gif) T(http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/diamond.gif) 5(http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/club.gif) SB bets 2355.00, MP raises to 6000.00 Based on the image I have of him so far, calling my 3b doesn't narrow his range too much but after raising my cbet, what range can i be putting him on? Obv as I'm posting it here you can guess I didn't win the hand but I'd appreciate comments on his potential range and what you would do. Thanks Title: Re: Marginal hand oop Post by: MANTIS01 on September 20, 2009, 08:42:49 PM You don't just find yourself in these positions, you chose to 3-bet the cl oop with a marginal hand. Don't really think that's the best strat at this table, or at any other table actually. It's a very easy flop for the active cl to raise your lead. Maybe you want to be c-raising instead on this board.
Title: Re: Marginal hand oop Post by: ardeecee on September 20, 2009, 09:10:45 PM Blinds 150/300 (50 ante)
Title: Re: Marginal hand oop Post by: George2Loose on September 20, 2009, 09:15:29 PM Confused cos this hand isn't from 2006
Title: Re: Marginal hand oop Post by: ardeecee on September 20, 2009, 09:40:32 PM Agreed Mantis, did get myself in that spot, not just find it! George, sorry, what particulary are you referring to?
Title: Re: Marginal hand oop Post by: outragous76 on September 21, 2009, 10:25:26 PM dont worry - lots of bumped threads recently - thats what george meant
fixing this leak dramatically improved my game - i used to do this alot As for the hand itself - if he has been active the i like your weak lead to jam............. if thats what you did I think he has an under pair to your 10. I think any overpair gets em in pre (possibly not JJ), or the only hand that beats you is AT. Given the spot you are in I jam and look to bink but yeah - dont get yourself there in the first place Title: Re: Marginal hand oop Post by: AlexMartin on September 21, 2009, 10:28:24 PM tough spot, think uv played it fine thus far. need at least some kinda read on villain and his tendencies. If hes run of the mill, its a fold. If hes out of line/tricky, call then CRAI a non-diamond turn looks good.
Title: Re: Marginal hand oop Post by: NoflopsHomer on September 21, 2009, 11:02:45 PM tough spot, think uv played it fine thus far. need at least some kinda read on villain and his tendencies. If hes run of the mill, its a fold. If hes out of line/tricky, call then CRAI a non-diamond turn looks good. Check stack sizes. Title: Re: Marginal hand oop Post by: AlexMartin on September 22, 2009, 01:19:24 AM tough spot, think uv played it fine thus far. need at least some kinda read on villain and his tendencies. If hes run of the mill, its a fold. If hes out of line/tricky, call then CRAI a non-diamond turn looks good. Check stack sizes. lol thought stacks were 10* what they are obv. Flip a coin, mainly dont 3bet oop this shallow and dont be bet folding the top of your range. Probably just go with it coz ppl do dumb shit, u have top pair in a 3b pot and u have the type of name that implies you run good. Title: Re: Marginal hand oop Post by: action man on September 23, 2009, 10:44:38 AM just flat pre and c/c flop. As played i dunno, but doubt i would be folding, probs jam now.
Title: Re: Marginal hand oop Post by: action man on September 23, 2009, 10:46:17 AM tough spot, think uv played it fine thus far. need at least some kinda read on villain and his tendencies. If hes run of the mill, its a fold. If hes out of line/tricky, call then CRAI a non-diamond turn looks good. Check stack sizes. lol thought stacks were 10* what they are obv. Flip a coin, mainly dont 3bet oop this shallow and dont be bet folding the top of your range. Probably just go with it coz ppl do dumb shit, u have top pair in a 3b pot and u have the type of name that implies you run good. dude he has 17k at 150/300 Title: Re: Marginal hand oop Post by: ardeecee on September 23, 2009, 07:16:29 PM As for the hand itself - if he has been active the i like your weak lead to jam............. if thats what you did I think he has an under pair to your 10. I think any overpair gets em in pre (possibly not JJ), or the only hand that beats you is AT. Given the spot you are in I jam and look to bink but yeah - dont get yourself there in the first place Thanks for comments guys. Guy, you've pretty much read the way i played it. When he calls pre I was thinking AJ,A10,AQ type hands or mid pairs. When he repops I narrow him to maybe fd or mid pair not wanting to see another card, or complete air trying to push me off a weak lead. I jammed and he shows 4s 5s lol! Not results orientated here as I can never put him on a 5 but more the way I played pre and getting myself into that spot was the advice i was looking for. Thanks again!! |