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I'm in seat 3, seat 1 has just come to the table and is a 'I'm having it large' Ali G type boy wearing all the bling invented, only missing a banadana to complete his gang member look.

FTR I am wearing pearls and a very matronly top so he will probably have made a decision about me before I've played a hand, as I have about him.

I have approx 7.5k, average 10500. Blinds 50/100 second level. He has approx 15k.

He raises on the button to 400. What should I do?

Depends on your hand.

I don't know.

If you assume he'll be splashy raise wider for value. 4 x is kinda scary though unless that is his usual size.  I'd flat alot of hands and play post flop tbh.

Is the button Mr Anthony Kendall, sounds like him. Need to know your hand to comment further.

3bet then look at your hole cards

i'd prob 3 bet KK-99/AK/some Axs/some low sc's, Flat AT-AQ/44-88/AA/ and a few offsuit/suited broadways and connectors.

Doh - sorry peeps - I had  Ac Qd. I flat called oop.

Flop comes  Qs Ahrt 3d. Now what?

check or bet the minimum!

if he's gonna be v aggro bet minimum call raise check turn or bet minimums again if it's an Ace ftw.

I checked. He bet 750. I raised to 1500. Too little/too much?

Min raise, right?

I would probs either flat or make it at least 2000, depending on whether the button is likely to bet the turn or not based on our reads on him.

please stop saying bet the minimum, it's tilting me a ridic amount

No offence intended Tracey but when a woman minraises me in this spot I can happily fold AK.

I agree, if you are going to raise make it bigger, if not just call.

trace, have you given us the flop action correctly? you say you min raised and then ask if you made it too much so I'm thinking your numbers may not be right

if you did minraise then I'm with cos, that move from a woman scares most blokes

please bet the least allowable at the time

exactly.

Yep - the action is correct except the 3 is a  3s - my bad sorry.

He obv doesn't think like you - obv you are not a gangsta member becuse once I've min raised post flop he pushes all in.

I'm thinking either complete bluff or he actually has a hand. I'm thinking under pair, ace, flushing, or possibly a set - not aces or queens surely but possibly a set of threes and he's hoping I've got an ace.

It's second level of a deepstack tourney - do I put my tourney on the line and snap call with 2 pair. This player has been at the table less than one round so I don't have a good handle on how he is playing. To me - slow and steady - the action confuses me which I guess it's designed to do.

What action would you take?

Get it in, as you say the only hand that is a really worry here is 3's. More likely to be ak, a3, some kind of combo draw.

get it in. maybe he cant fold AK even if cos does. people play differently/badly/sometimes have big hands and we have AQ. :)up

I'm not sure I like your mentality in this hand Trace. You paint the picture of an aggro villain and a conservative hero and yet when you bingo the flop you can't wait to c-raise the guy. Why did you c-raise? If we look at this HU encounter and the images involved why would the conservative player getting aggro pay dividends here? Most of the time villain will fold as others have suggested. You took a risk flatting oop and you will c-fold a lot, so when you hit gin you need to get paid. As it happens you do hit the jackpot because our friend Ali G can't wait to jam anyway. The range you yourself assign villain is under pair, ace, f/d or possibly a set but not aces or queens. So why haven't you called already? All this I haven't got a handle on him yet is just the fudgey nittiness of a conservative player and that's what aggro players prey on when they get aggro. Jam and jam very quickly swinging your pearls in the air above your head please.

THIS

is this a level??

agree, seem to be a lot of odd hands lately on here.

tracey on the flop you have a lock, just check call the 1st street to let him takeoff with a super wide range v someone he thinks he can bully. raising this flop is burning money with your image and his likely range thats about  <--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> big. As played, well congrats uv levelled him with a strange line so snap his arm off.

I think he raised all-in for information. So now you can snap him off, and show him he is behind. :)

haaha :)up :)up

snap faster than a fast thing on fast day...no question.

 ;popcorn; well...........what did he have? (presuming you snapped)

do a little boogie whilst putting your stack ove rthe line

pearl swinging > boogie

plz dont tell me you folded trace!

If check-minraising the flop is so horrible coz it telegraphs two pair minimum, why is everyone so happy to snap off the shove?

because Ali G isn't as good as us

Trace. I agree with mantis here.

You say something like you were the passive woman in a pearl necklace. Then you play like you think he percieves you?

No way I am passing your hand here. Finger in the airtime for me. If it is a cooler its a cooler. With top 2 you have outs. I think he has a combo and you have got some fading to do!

does anyone ever fold here ever? i think i need 300bb to not be airhumping

What happened then tracey?

You can never pass in this spot Vs an unknown

But can you really put him on AA or QQ ..no way with the action as described

33 only hand you are losing to and even that I doubt

if its a cooler its a cooler

Whole thread is one big level

Sounds interesting...  :D

Did you call and he had you by the short and pearlies?

^This

Please please say you snap called, because even pausing for 10 seconds and then calling is pretty bad...

fyp

I actually like the check min raise on the flop. If the player is young and aggro it might wind him up and get him to move all in with rags. a.k.a. James Brunskill.

Definetly call now.

LMAO so true...

That's bang out of order.

Bling is so yesterday. Scarves ftw.

The other players at the table would then be able to take their head phones out and stop pretending they were listening to music.

What happened Ding?

Before I answer let me ask another question.

If I had titled this thread 'Hand in the WSOP - level 2' would the answers have been any different?

Would the importance of the comp make any difference here or not? Level 2 of the WSOP would you jam while swinging your pearls in the air?

No, if the play is correct in a $1 tourney online or the WSOP ME, my answer would be the same.

As long as the relevant BB's were the same etc

It doesn't matter how much the buy in is a correct decision is a correct decision and the type of tournament you're in has no bearing or influence over a decision being correct. You're really asking whether people are more inclined to play safe in a big tourney. Yes they are. But the buy-in amount wont stop jamming being the correct strat in this hand. In fact as poker players it's more satisfying to make correct decisions regardless of the pressures. I still swing those pearls in the wsop only quicker.

If this was nearing the bubble of a "we won't kill you hideously if you cash" tournament, and this hand was the difference, I'm probably still getting it in! The only thing that might stop me is me not wanting to die as a result of someone hitting their flush draw!

In all seriousness, 33 is the only hand that beats us realistically, and we crush so many other hands. Am happy to get my money here whatever the tourney...

if you let the buy-in of the tournament etc affect your decision making then you are playing in the wrong tournament.

With same situation (stacks etc) it goes in in a WSOP main event

Have we called yet?

only hing That changes the decision is the quality of player

agaainst some players i would be all in

against others i wouldnt

but the buy in wouldnt make a difference

ok maybe it would

if i was in a £1 rebuy against a very good player insta call but in a 100k freezeout against the same very good player i might fold

most definitely imo, i expect to never get worse/bluff to ship on me in a bigger event where the everyman will play way more straightup

Frankly my fist pumping, hand in the air, optimal is optimal friends, just lol at the assertion that the comp doesn't make a difference to your play in certain situations

I thinking we are assuming villian , blinds, cards and table conditions are all the same, Alex just a different event.

+1

Uggh. I knew having gone into the tank, talked myself out of the call and let go of my hand that I had made the wrong decision. It was the most bizarre thought process ever. Stoning, flagellation, ridicule and f words can start now.  ;booboo;

It has really made me think about why I am playing poker - for fun or profit?

If it's for profit I'm in there swinging the beads and guessing I'm ahead.
If it's for fun I'm wondering if my tourney is over and I have waked into a set and having staggered up the motorway my game is lasting less time than my journey. I didn't want to go out at that point and have to do the walk of shame.

I can't believe I didn't call - as soon as I let go of the hand I knew I was wrong. I talked myself out of it which is ridiculous because if I'm in the hand what am I hoping to see? AQblank is almost the nuts - pretty good - but all sorts of other factors clouded my judgement and I folded. I have been kicking myself ever since.

As it was I got good value for my money - last level of the day - but I didn't cash and doubt I will playing so weak.

So - rethought my game over the last few days - playing to win is the only way - whatever the buy in.

I will for the next week be wearing sackcloth and ashes - but a determined look on my face - probably playing Aspers tonight - so be prepared!

He had A K btw.

Everyone makes mistakes Tracey, at least you recognise it and you come on here to improve.

gl

Yay, we finally have a result. Thread has been one big slowroll :)

Lol, this!!

Unlucky though, I have done that before as well - as soon as I make a decision, I know it was the wrong one! I just decided to take as long as I need to make my decisions from then on, and it definitely has improved my thinking process and my overall decisions.

ban plz, your one of the tankers who make me wish i hadnt travelled to play live.

Lol, I'm not one of the tankers really, unless it's very deep and for a massive pot, I'm usually playing turbo. Unless, I'm bollywooding of course!

Obviously when it's a big decision, some people feel that they still need to act really quickly. Just apologise to the table if you're taking longer than usual, and take your time! It will help loads, ldo.

haha @ Bollywooding Sunny.

Never seen you tank or take excessively long when I've shared a table with you.

pmsl @ bollywooding. Often if i tank i talk myself into a fold or call, my instincts are my best guide, each to their own tho ldo

The point is that if you line up in a 100m sprint your best strategy is to run as fast as possible. If you then find yourself in the Olympic final your best strategy is still to run as fast as possible. Some of the other runners might let the pressure of such a big occasion slow them down. But that is a weakness for those runners. Cos finding a way to run your quickest despite the pressure is always going to be optimum strategy in a race. So you can't blame poker players for aspiring to a purity of thought that negates external pressures in favour of pure decisions. That's just trying to do your best to win at poker.

Tracey, I think your mentality towards poker needs looking at. You are making a connection between fun and staying in the competition, and that is a mistake. Winning chips and busting people's asses is the fun in a poker tournament. Snapping Ali G and sending the joker packing is fun. Folding A-Q and chastising yourself for time about that decision isn't fun. Staying in the competition just to continue making bad decisions and dribble out without really challenging isn't fun. In order to have fun playing poker you need to take risks, not avoid them. You need to find your hard-ass side again because you need every chip in that tournament to be having real fun. Playing to win is the only way to have fun in poker. Anything else means you are the value, the donkey. And how can that be fun?

Can't disagree with anything you say and I like the fact that you mention people aspiring to a purity of thought. Clearly not many of us here have achieved that yet or we might be household names

Completely agree with everyting you say - that is the mind set I've been working through since the weekend. Watch out boys - I'm coming to get you!