|
Title: £40 DC DTD monday night Post by: Unimaginative on October 13, 2009, 02:28:00 PM quick question,
finalled DTD last nite 103 players. 824000 chips in play, blinds at 3k-6k/600. i have 92k roughly... (so pretty much a crapshoot-by next level there was 100BB in play 8 handed) passes to button who shoves 23k i have Ahrt 8s. BB has 29k. so i want him out to take this HU (right?) so i announce all in. BB tanks and asks me if i had A9, good read i guess but played 15 mins of whole tourney with him, ends up taking a 3-4 mins making a decision b4 finally shipping the rest in Ks 5s. maybe im thinking about this the wrong way but is his call in a 3-way all in pot with K5 correct coz of the maths or is this just dumb? BTW- button has Qh Td, board comes 9s Kd 3c 6s Kh. could chompy please post his expert views thanks!!! Title: Re: £40 DC DTD monday night Post by: Cf on October 13, 2009, 02:33:56 PM Button's push is good. Your push is good. BB's call isn't so good.
By my calculations he's getting about 2.2:1 on a call. But I doubt given the button's shoving range and your reshoving range that he'll have this much equity in the pot. But it's probably not too far off. Title: Re: £40 DC DTD monday night Post by: Rupert on October 13, 2009, 03:14:27 PM his call is awful everything else is standard
Title: Re: £40 DC DTD monday night Post by: Ironside on October 13, 2009, 03:17:04 PM Title: Re: £40 DC DTD monday night Post by: marcin123 on October 13, 2009, 03:23:36 PM lol yeh... horrible called with Ks 5s lol...
Title: Re: £40 DC DTD monday night Post by: outragous76 on October 13, 2009, 03:56:20 PM But it was soo..... Oh, wait
Title: Re: £40 DC DTD monday night Post by: StuartHopkin on October 13, 2009, 04:03:04 PM lol
does the 29k inc the BB's big blind? so he has less than 4BB back? if so i get it in here all day long for valooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Title: Re: £40 DC DTD monday night Post by: Cf on October 13, 2009, 04:11:10 PM I assumed it was 29k after posting his big blind.
If it's only 23k tho then he's now getting 2.6:1, which is better. Still, dunno if I like Krag in this spot. Too easily dominated by one of the other two? Title: Re: £40 DC DTD monday night Post by: BulldozerD on October 13, 2009, 04:14:14 PM all is fine apart from the BB's play imo
Title: Re: £40 DC DTD monday night Post by: EvilPie on October 13, 2009, 04:26:05 PM Only thing I don't like about bb's play is that he's let himself get down to 5 bigs.
He can't pass here. Too much to win and a half decent hand. Title: Re: £40 DC DTD monday night Post by: StuartHopkin on October 13, 2009, 04:57:29 PM I assumed it was 29k after posting his big blind. If it's only 23k tho then he's now getting 2.6:1, which is better. Still, dunno if I like Krag in this spot. Too easily dominated by one of the other two? Either way he is SB next, down to 26k or 20k and has to get it in somewhere. Title: Re: £40 DC DTD monday night Post by: $muszlesz$ on October 13, 2009, 05:24:06 PM bb had 35k in total....and it was wadey which makes all the differance imo
Title: Re: £40 DC DTD monday night Post by: George2Loose on October 13, 2009, 05:33:20 PM Bubbled this last night.
Think there was a guy who made friends with Neil cos he kept calling simply for pot odds not assessing anyone's hand ranges Title: Re: £40 DC DTD monday night Post by: gatso on October 13, 2009, 05:40:43 PM imo
Title: Re: £40 DC DTD monday night Post by: Rupert on October 13, 2009, 05:47:17 PM lol, didn't see BB had 5 bbs. can jsut stove it then
Title: Re: £40 DC DTD monday night Post by: StuartHopkin on October 13, 2009, 05:58:16 PM bb had 35k in total....and it was wadey which makes all the differance imo ZOMG how could OP leave out this info Terrible shove imo Wadey is god when it comes to soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooted valooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Title: Re: £40 DC DTD monday night Post by: $muszlesz$ on October 13, 2009, 06:10:51 PM wadey the offers him a bet....if he wins this Ks 5s hand he will win the tourny....sigh he came 2nd
Title: Re: £40 DC DTD monday night Post by: poonjoe on October 13, 2009, 09:03:35 PM Lol the funny thing about this hand was after Wadey won it three other players at the table sat there commenting 'Great call Wadey, fantastic call...'
Now I will bet you £1000 that had Wadey lost the hand those same players would be saying 'I can't believe he's called off his tournament with K5, after two all-ins, what a terrible play'. Well, Wadey called for value after correctly assessing that Poulton would be isolating with a wide range, including A9 like he said. Was his call correct? Its a bit more complicated than just sticking it in Pokerstove, because Wadey can improve his chances of moving up the pay ladder by folding here. We need to use an ICM calculator.... BRB Title: Re: £40 DC DTD monday night Post by: Longy on October 13, 2009, 09:57:06 PM Lol the funny thing about this hand was after Wadey won it three other players at the table sat there commenting 'Great call Wadey, fantastic call...' Now I will bet you £1000 that had Wadey lost the hand those same players would be saying 'I can't believe he's called off his tournament with K5, after two all-ins, what a terrible play'. Well, Wadey called for value after correctly assessing that Poulton would be isolating with a wide range, including A9 like he said. Was his call correct? Its a bit more complicated than just sticking it in Pokerstove, because Wadey can improve his chances of moving up the pay ladder by folding here. We need to use an ICM calculator.... BRB Wadey sure was thinking about the above, they were suited and one of the cards was above a 10, "Im going to have to call you boud". Title: Re: £40 DC DTD monday night Post by: StuartHopkin on October 14, 2009, 12:26:31 PM Lol the funny thing about this hand was after Wadey won it three other players at the table sat there commenting 'Great call Wadey, fantastic call...' Now I will bet you £1000 that had Wadey lost the hand those same players would be saying 'I can't believe he's called off his tournament with K5, after two all-ins, what a terrible play'. Well, Wadey called for value after correctly assessing that Poulton would be isolating with a wide range, including A9 like he said. Was his call correct? Its a bit more complicated than just sticking it in Pokerstove, because Wadey can improve his chances of moving up the pay ladder by folding here. We need to use an ICM calculator.... BRB Wadey sure was thinking about the above, they were suited and one of the cards was above a 10, "Im going to have to call you boud". His right arm was probably also at right angles to his body when the second king came' I told you bud, thats how you play K5' Title: Re: £40 DC DTD monday night Post by: titaniumbean on October 14, 2009, 02:30:44 PM cant win by folding imo
Title: Re: £40 DC DTD monday night Post by: yorky34 on October 14, 2009, 05:42:15 PM with is stack i would probably call there in bb i might not even have looked at my cards
Title: Re: £40 DC DTD monday night Post by: Unimaginative on October 14, 2009, 05:55:08 PM So if u think his play is correct calling there because he is so short then why has player not shipped his 5x stack in b4 the BB has reached him, we had nt played many hands at the final by any means, but had more than 1 oppurtunity to get it in 1st. Still thinking this play is horrendous, and yes I was rather surprised when seat 1 ( old man-with no bigger stack than K5 player) opened his mouth to say "good call". Needless to say I shove 67suited middle position wit 7x and run into K5 players KK, so busto 8th. Long drive home 4 a donkament
Title: Re: £40 DC DTD monday night Post by: StuartHopkin on October 14, 2009, 06:20:32 PM So if u think his play is correct calling there because he is so short then why has player not shipped his 5x stack in b4 the BB has reached him, we had nt played many hands at the final by any means, but had more than 1 oppurtunity to get it in 1st. Still thinking this play is horrendous, and yes I was rather surprised when seat 1 ( old man-with no bigger stack than K5 player) opened his mouth to say "good call". Needless to say I shove 67suited middle position wit 7x and run into K5 players KK, so busto 8th. Long drive home 4 a donkament If he has blinded away trying to scrape into the prizes then he has got what he was trying to achieve. Personally there is no way to play but ftw so I would never let myself get that short. Unless I just got my stack in and that wast the change. If though, you put me in that seat at that point, I ship my 5 bigs in with a one hand in the air about to do the banana dance. ;sexybanana; Title: Re: £40 DC DTD monday night Post by: Karabiner on October 14, 2009, 06:31:38 PM So if u think his play is correct calling there because he is so short then why has player not shipped his 5x stack in b4 the BB has reached him, we had nt played many hands at the final by any means, but had more than 1 oppurtunity to get it in 1st. Still thinking this play is horrendous, and yes I was rather surprised when seat 1 ( old man-with no bigger stack than K5 player) opened his mouth to say "good call". Needless to say I shove 67suited middle position wit 7x and run into K5 players KK, so busto 8th. Long drive home 4 a donkament Don't you think he said that because he had just laddered a spot ? Title: Re: £40 DC DTD monday night Post by: titaniumbean on October 14, 2009, 08:42:30 PM So if u think his play is correct calling there because he is so short then why has player not shipped his 5x stack in b4 the BB has reached him, we had nt played many hands at the final by any means, but had more than 1 oppurtunity to get it in 1st. Still thinking this play is horrendous, and yes I was rather surprised when seat 1 ( old man-with no bigger stack than K5 player) opened his mouth to say "good call". Needless to say I shove 67suited middle position wit 7x and run into K5 players KK, so busto 8th. Long drive home 4 a donkament If he has blinded away trying to scrape into the prizes then he has got what he was trying to achieve. Personally there is no way to play but ftw so I would never let myself get that short. Unless I just got my stack in and that wast the change. If though, you put me in that seat at that point, I ship my 5 bigs in with a one hand in the air about to do the banana dance. ;sexybanana; There is your problem, you need to move in after you've started doing the ;sexybanana; |