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Title: shove or fold
Post by: yorky34 on October 20, 2009, 01:28:36 AM
 freeze out at gala  down to last 2 tables 890000 chips in play,  blinds 2/4k  utg raises to 15k next guy folds i am next to act,  i only got 26k  i push all in with pocket 99s , should i of folded , my mate thinks that i should be folding hands like that  even though got less that 10bb , ?????


Title: Re: shove or fold
Post by: cambo on October 20, 2009, 02:10:36 AM
obv ur mate has lost his mind


Title: Re: shove or fold
Post by: Rupert on October 20, 2009, 05:44:20 AM
great, so we've got to 2k/4k and still don't have any reads


Title: Re: shove or fold
Post by: BulldozerD on October 20, 2009, 09:29:22 AM
with limited info given i just get it in. Depends on UTG though and his stack size etc.

i am guessing your mate is results orientated just ike everyone else at gala


Title: Re: shove or fold
Post by: marcin123 on October 20, 2009, 10:49:39 AM
my mate thinks that i should be folding hands like that  even though got less that 10bb , ?????

Shove every time lol... Unless you want to play like some of the others at gala(numpties), waiting till they are whittled down to their last BB


Title: Re: shove or fold
Post by: Cf on October 20, 2009, 12:30:47 PM
fold, gala player has raised, must be AA obv


Title: Re: shove or fold
Post by: BulldozerD on October 20, 2009, 12:35:06 PM
shove, gala player has raised and will fold to your miniscule reraise showing AK, stating that he doesn't want to flip at this stage

fyp


Title: Re: shove or fold
Post by: marcin123 on October 20, 2009, 12:38:32 PM
shove, gala player has raised and will fold to your miniscule reraise showing AK, stating that he doesn't want to flip at this stage

fyp

I did that there once with  3h 5h... sb raised i reraised from the bb and he folded   Ad Kd face up with 12 left... his excuse was that he hadn't made a final in a while and wanted to make it... so sick that players do that lol


Title: Re: shove or fold
Post by: TightEnd on October 20, 2009, 12:57:49 PM
You haven't told us UTG's stack, or any reads on his raising range UTG

That said,

Average stack, assuming a full two tables is 50kish and you're down to 7xbb half average

Simple push, irrespective of results.

Sounds like the type of field where you can push a lot earlier than 7x bb, re-steals etc..so as not to get to 7xbb!


Title: Re: shove or fold
Post by: yorky34 on October 20, 2009, 03:04:10 PM
utg had about 80k but only just come to table , havent seen him before but was wearing a dusk till dawn t shirt if that helps lol


Title: Re: shove or fold
Post by: yorky34 on October 20, 2009, 03:08:45 PM
i had been pushing a lot and stealing blinds  and then got called a few times and lost a few races but had my money in good most of time .
And my money was good this time and i was happy how i played it just trying to see my mates point of view cos he is a good player and as lots of wins .


Title: Re: shove or fold
Post by: marcin123 on October 21, 2009, 12:16:56 PM
i had been pushing a lot and stealing blinds  and then got called a few times and lost a few races but had my money in good most of time .
And my money was good this time and i was happy how i played it just trying to see my mates point of view cos he is a good player and as lots of wins .

Your money went in good... All you can do... Who tolded you to fold btw??? Anyone I know???


Title: Re: shove or fold
Post by: BulldozerD on October 21, 2009, 12:50:52 PM
fold because you are going to lose


Title: Re: shove or fold
Post by: poonjoe on October 21, 2009, 02:03:07 PM
Easy shove because i) 99 is likely to be the best hand you will see before yr down to 3 big blinds or even less and ii) you should be very happy to get into a 'race' situation with dead money equal to 25% of yr stack.


Title: Re: shove or fold
Post by: Cf on October 21, 2009, 03:16:15 PM
i had been pushing a lot and stealing blinds  and then got called a few times and lost a few races but had my money in good most of time .
And my money was good this time and i was happy how i played it just trying to see my mates point of view cos he is a good player and as lots of wins .

I'm probably going to be offending someone I know here with this comment but I stand by it: anyone suggesting you fold here is not a good player.

Especially if the UTG player was wearing a DTD tshirt.


Title: Re: shove or fold
Post by: yorky34 on October 21, 2009, 05:07:06 PM
i had been pushing a lot and stealing blinds  and then got called a few times and lost a few races but had my money in good most of time .
And my money was good this time and i was happy how i played it just trying to see my mates point of view cos he is a good player and as lots of wins .

Your money went in good... All you can do... Who tolded you to fold btw??? Anyone I know???
Yes you know him marcin but not going to mention his name , but he is a decent player and i take is point view on board but i would shove everytime there unless   i had a read on player 


Title: Re: shove or fold
Post by: Cf on October 22, 2009, 02:10:16 AM
i had been pushing a lot and stealing blinds  and then got called a few times and lost a few races but had my money in good most of time .
And my money was good this time and i was happy how i played it just trying to see my mates point of view cos he is a good player and as lots of wins .

Your money went in good... All you can do... Who tolded you to fold btw??? Anyone I know???
Yes you know him marcin but not going to mention his name , but he is a decent player and i take is point view on board but i would shove everytime there unless   i had a read on player 

Please don't take his POV on board here


Title: Re: shove or fold
Post by: Royal Flush on October 22, 2009, 02:20:39 AM
Your money went in good... All you can do...

Really?


Title: Re: shove or fold
Post by: Cf on October 22, 2009, 02:24:48 AM
Your money went in good... All you can do...

Really?

obv

if you get it in with the worst hand then you suck at poker


Title: Re: shove or fold
Post by: BulldozerD on October 22, 2009, 09:20:34 AM
CF can you please advise me what clothing i should wear if i attend gala again, so that i can get respect for my raises - i don't have DTD T-shirt btw


Title: Re: shove or fold
Post by: Girgy85 on October 22, 2009, 11:06:15 AM
i had been pushing a lot and stealing blinds  and then got called a few times and lost a few races but had my money in good most of time .
And my money was good this time and i was happy how i played it just trying to see my mates point of view cos he is a good player and as lots of wins .

Your money went in good... All you can do... Who tolded you to fold btw??? Anyone I know???
Yes you know him marcin but not going to mention his name , but he is a decent player and i take is point view on board but i would shove everytime there unless   i had a read on player 

Name and Shame whoever thinks this is a fold! (PM me)


Title: Re: shove or fold
Post by: marcin123 on October 22, 2009, 02:20:59 PM
CF can you please advise me what clothing i should wear if i attend gala again, so that i can get respect for my raises - i don't have DTD T-shirt btw

Pokerstars T-shirt... Sunglasses... Pokerstars cap... I will fold every hand to your raise then...


Title: Re: shove or fold
Post by: Cf on October 22, 2009, 02:30:07 PM
CF can you please advise me what clothing i should wear if i attend gala again, so that i can get respect for my raises - i don't have DTD T-shirt btw

Pokerstars T-shirt... Sunglasses... Pokerstars cap... I will fold every hand to your raise then...

Be sure to tank for 20 seconds before folding every time too. Even if you're UTG with 52o.


Title: Re: shove or fold
Post by: Cf on October 22, 2009, 02:30:30 PM
Oh, and be completely silent too.


Title: Re: shove or fold
Post by: Girgy85 on October 22, 2009, 11:05:48 PM
CF can you please advise me what clothing i should wear if i attend gala again, so that i can get respect for my raises - i don't have DTD T-shirt btw

Pokerstars T-shirt... Sunglasses... Pokerstars cap... I will fold every hand to your raise then...

Be sure to tank for 20 seconds before folding every time too. Even if you're UTG with 52o.

Gotta wait till Marcin's allowed back in Gala first tho!


Title: Re: shove or fold
Post by: marcin123 on October 23, 2009, 11:54:32 AM
Gotta wait till Marcin's allowed back in Gala first tho!

Long way away mate lol


Title: Re: shove or fold
Post by: BulldozerD on October 23, 2009, 12:14:15 PM
CF can you please advise me what clothing i should wear if i attend gala again, so that i can get respect for my raises - i don't have DTD T-shirt btw

Pokerstars T-shirt... Sunglasses... Pokerstars cap... I will fold every hand to your raise then...

Be sure to tank for 20 seconds before folding every time too. Even if you're UTG with 52o.

yeah this - i will play with my cards and look at them at least 7 different ways before looking at each player to act after me for at least 10 seconds, before looking back at my holecards and consdering my decision. I will do this every hand preflop for image purposes and therefore you will respect me when i raise. EZ game


Title: Re: shove or fold
Post by: Cf on October 23, 2009, 01:33:51 PM
CF can you please advise me what clothing i should wear if i attend gala again, so that i can get respect for my raises - i don't have DTD T-shirt btw

Pokerstars T-shirt... Sunglasses... Pokerstars cap... I will fold every hand to your raise then...

Be sure to tank for 20 seconds before folding every time too. Even if you're UTG with 52o.

yeah this - i will play with my cards and look at them at least 7 different ways before looking at each player to act after me for at least 10 seconds, before looking back at my holecards and consdering my decision. I will do this every hand preflop for image purposes and therefore you will respect me when i raise. EZ game

Oh, and remember to stare down the table for 10 seconds before you even look at your cards.