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Title: 4 handed final table Post by: TightEnd on October 26, 2009, 06:03:35 PM £75 205 runner MTT live
Final four players Payouts 3500 (plus a GUKPT Champ of Champs seat, undealable) 2250 1250 600 Stacks UTG Hero 500k Button Villain 550k Small blind 350k Big blind 600k blinds are 8-16k with 1500 ante about to go 10-20k UTG raises to 45k with Aspades Jd Button, pushes all in. Most aggressive player at the table, unknown to you before the final. Hasn't had to show much but suspicion is he is "at it" more than his competitors Blinds fold UTG is the most experienced player, with the best overall game, and has never been in danger throughout the comp Call, or Wait? Title: Re: 4 handed final table Post by: Cf on October 26, 2009, 06:05:27 PM Raise less in the first place.
Fold now. Even if we think he's "at it" we're not usually miles ahead, and if he's got better then us we're likely dominated. Title: Re: 4 handed final table Post by: MANTIS01 on October 26, 2009, 07:58:47 PM I think it depends on hero's image to an extent. But villain must figure his move carries bags of FE and he knows a good player doesn't need much to be raising UTG 4-handed. If the other 2 are weak/tight maybe fold. But if they are regular I would snap because how much play is left in this game? A decent opportunity to get your chips in vs some LAG with a-rag and win the game imo.
Title: Re: 4 handed final table Post by: BulldozerD on October 26, 2009, 08:36:23 PM purely dependant on how things have been going at the table, image etc but a big ace is hard to raise/fold 4 handed
Title: Re: 4 handed final table Post by: Ironside on October 26, 2009, 08:39:57 PM raise to 38k pre then fold hard to fold Aj 4 handed but you will get better spots
Title: Re: 4 handed final table Post by: NoflopsHomer on October 26, 2009, 08:54:58 PM lol @ anyone folding here.
Title: Re: 4 handed final table Post by: Longy on October 26, 2009, 08:57:55 PM lol @ anyone folding here. Meh, this is a live APAT tourney peoples reshipping ranges are probs pretty tight. I would call but i am not loving it. Title: Re: 4 handed final table Post by: doubleup on October 26, 2009, 09:14:48 PM How much is the seat worth? It might skew me towards calling if it makes 1st prize top heavy. Title: Re: 4 handed final table Post by: the rage on October 27, 2009, 12:28:00 AM I would fold here. You still have plenty of chips. I think the button prob has you dominated. I dont think he will risk his tournament here with less thanAK.
LOL-I know i know nowt, but it's only a game isn't it? Title: Re: 4 handed final table Post by: Horneris on October 27, 2009, 01:48:09 AM i would call, its 4 handed.
And you have a read that he is "at it". Title: Re: 4 handed final table Post by: action man on October 27, 2009, 01:51:05 AM with 25bb at the next level, against 3 others that are weaker than you, calling is bad. I fold here pretty fast.
Title: Re: 4 handed final table Post by: Rookie (Rodney) on October 27, 2009, 02:02:14 AM Yeah i'm just mucking it without alot of thought/concern.
Title: Re: 4 handed final table Post by: Doobs on October 27, 2009, 01:25:01 PM Stacks probably just too big to make the call comfortable. If you were both sat with 250K then it would probably be instacall. I don't really like calling or folding, so is probably pretty borderline, and I may well wait if the table is weak. I also assume the players reraising ranges here are much tighter than a stars donkament. Think I have persuaded myself this is an easy fold, unless he has done this to me a lot.
Title: Re: 4 handed final table Post by: Foggy on October 27, 2009, 03:56:21 PM Fold
You've asked the question UTG, now take the answer, stacks still OK, wait for a better chance Title: Re: 4 handed final table Post by: marcin123 on October 27, 2009, 04:05:02 PM folding everytime...
Title: Re: 4 handed final table Post by: Cf on October 27, 2009, 06:17:07 PM Fold You've asked the question UTG, now take the answer, stacks still OK, wait for a better chance No we haven't. The bet should in no way be "asking a question". Title: Re: 4 handed final table Post by: Laxie on October 27, 2009, 06:25:15 PM I'm folding. We don't know the new guy and we 'think' he's at it, but I'm not using my entire stack to find out for everyone else. Still plenty of chips and experience to take them on later.
Title: Re: 4 handed final table Post by: EvilPie on October 27, 2009, 06:38:10 PM Easy fold.
But raise less pre in future especially when our plan is raise / fold. Title: Re: 4 handed final table Post by: AndrewT on October 27, 2009, 06:47:55 PM with 25bb at the next level, against 3 others that are weaker than you, calling is bad. I fold here pretty fast. This. You've got enough to raise/fold against players who are generally going to let you know when you're behind. Title: Re: 4 handed final table Post by: BulldozerD on October 27, 2009, 07:39:10 PM is it dangerous to put them on a weaker range due the size of their 3bet? would they jam AA/KK/QQ/AK here or make it 120-150k to go?
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