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£100 freezeout, level 2, blinds 50-100. Image is good to most of the table except for the villain who has only just joined the table 4 or 5 hands ago and the bird who obviously discovered the poker club whilst looking for the local bingo hall. Anyway, we have doubled up in the 3rd hand but lost a bit since so have 16k approx. Villain is unknown to me and limps utg along with 5 others. I make it 600 and get two callers. Flop is 7 8 9 rainbow and we all check. Should I be checking here? What would others do? Turn is an ace bringing two diamonds and utg leads for 2100, bingo bird folds and I call. River is a 4 clubs and he leads for 3600 leaving 5900 back. What should I do?  Obv folding isn't an option, raise or call?

if you bet the flop you probs have to bet fold unless u think one of limpers is gunna go crazy with 1 pr so i think i check.  on the river i think i just call.  I dont think raising is terrible as you obv get called by worse but i think calling is best

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yes this but i make it more pre with 5 limpers

I think you really have to push here.  Before he bets, you must be looking for a way to get all his chips in, as his remaining chips aren't even that much more than the pot?

JT and 56 you are obviously behind, but there are a whole host of 2 pair hands, sets and even slow played big aces he calls with.   If he has the straight it is just a cooler and move on. 

Good advice with Thomas Middleton ITT.  As Bulldozer says, I make it a few hundred more pre too and still expect a caller or two.

Agree. Would make it 700-800 pre and still expect action.

Post flop think you've played it right. Check back flop and call river. This early there's no point in putting yourself if a horrible spot if villian re shoves river

didn't see how short villain was. may be tempted to stick him in here.

Double check that one George.

Villain has 59 bigs back. Hardly short.

he's bet half of them

he have 89 or similiar 2 pair ?

With 6 limpers in the pot pre-flop you want to thin the field to one, maybe two callers. The 600 raise achieves that perfectly so I think that amount is spot on. The flop isn't ideal and I think the hand is easier to play if you accept 3 streets of value and still having the winner probably isn't going to happen here. Getting raised by an unknown if you bet puts you in an impossible spot so I like checking behind and playing the pot that way. Middling pairs and 10-J hit your oppos range so hard I think the check is wise and you can still pick up value from the sd on the turn anyway.

Turn standard. River is a call for me. Yeah only realistically 10-J beats us but we pegged that hand from the start and it is still realistic. We must look pretty damn strong to villain on the turn when he leads the A and we come along so there's no doubt he has us on a pretty tight range. Yet he clearly v-bets the river regardless. I don't think he has 2 pair really, so by not raising we lose a bit of value from smaller sets but save money when we run into 10-J, so I don't think checking and hopefully winning a very nice pot is the end of the world.

Do we never raise the turn? villain could put us on a bluff and get funky have the case Ace,2pr...

Also i would raise more pre,900

Thank you all that replied, I see now that calling on the end is the better play v an unknown, my view at the time was skewed by the ace on the turn as i felt he makes the same bet with a big ace or a set, and again on the blank river. I just felt at the time that calling with top set was weak and losing value. Always different thinking about it whilst it's happening i suppose.

Just for the record i set him in and he made a brave call with 10 J :D

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