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OK some of the talk re Henry has tilted me to be honest.

Fans are fickle. How can you call a cheat?

Picture this. Your club team are about to get relegated.  You need to score. The ball goes to th far post. it's handled by your star player who crosses and GOAL! You're staying up

Would u really accept a reply?

Ireland were very unlucky last night, but what Henry did was hardly the most dishonourable thing you have ever seen. In fact you see it every week up and down the country, footballers simply doing what they can to help their team.

It is a complete overreaction as there was a lot at stake. The Irish asking for a replay is a bit embarrassing if you ask me and complete unrealistic.

I don't know about a reply, maybe a replay would be better  ;D

its quite simple - bring in the technology such as they have in about 95% of the other sports so that critical decisions can be challenged. People who cheat then know that anything they do during the game that is against the rules could well be spotted in the replay and they run the risk of being caught and punished on the field of play.

Some players may well still try and gain an advantage by cheating but with more chance of being caught and your punishment could cause the game to go against you i reckon that more players would think twice about doing anything deliberate.

To be fair i don't think what Henry did was pre-meditated and deliberate even though it has cost my team a place in the world cup, it happened in the spur of the moment and was instinct more than anything - however after the ball went into the back of the net he knew what had happened was against the rules and the goal shouldn't have stood - allowing the managers one challenge per half (and additional one in extra time) would dramatically reduce incidents like last nights and then at least even if we would have lost on penalties and least we could hold our hands up and say "we gave it our best shot but at least it was fair and honest"

With Sepp Blatter constantly beating the "fair play" drum it will be interesting to hear his comments on last night

dont like the 1 challenge rule

first minute of a half joe bloggs acidently hand balls in pen box
ref misses it but it challenged by oppo team and pen is given

then for the rest of the half joe bloggs team can cheat as much as they like as long as ref doesnt catch them

2 incorrect challenges a half is much better

I can understand the natural reaction or instinct of a player would be to stick there arm out and keep it in , but the way Henry keeps it in and then almost caresses(sp?) on to his foot to cross it in makes it cheating in my book.

OK obviously they are not going to get a replay.

That said blatant cheating should not be allowed in any sport, and FIFA should take notice and do something about it.

It is ludicrous that players can attempt to cheat in a sport with no repercussions for there actions.

Ngog's blatant dive for Liverpool also springs to mind.

At least Rugby had the decency to deal with there highly publicised cheating in a way that will deter it happening again. (the so called blood incident)

Football should be leading the way, not living in the dark ages.

Play to the whistle.. there all screaming and shouting before the balls in the back of the net... clear the danger then harrass the referee!

Sometimes cheating is ok.
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbbsytHDp2o

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No one's really answered the original question

Would u take the goal or take the moral higher ground cos your player "cheated"

get in tehre my son

wohoooooooooooooooooooo

what a player

At least i answered your other Q  about how can Henry be called a cheat.

If I was the manager, I would instruct my team to refuse to play on until the ref asks Henry if he hand balled it.

you can dress it up anyway you like. he's a cheating scumbag.

and what is most annoying about him is this holier than fucking thou image he likes to cultivate.


i actually know of no other sport where cheating is tolerated so freely. Dean Richards tried it in rugby, and has lost his livliehood. Henry has actually been rewarded for it

No doubt he cheated don't know how that's even debatable since he blatantly used his hand after it hit his arm.

I don't know why they insist on not using technology,there should be 3 challenges a game imo this would hardly slow the game down and is a must imo,but nothing ireland can do here but be gutted and move on,although henry should get a 6 game ban thus missing all but the final (i think) if they got there.Pretty sure everyone could think of situations where there club and country has been screwed over by cheating/dodgy refereeing etc.

That was probably worse than Maradona's in terms of premeditation.

Eduardo was lambasted for his cheating but this is no different at all. I think Henry should be subject to a FIFA enquiry and booed for a bit when he plays. Anyway, in answer to the question, if I was playing for England against France for a world cup spot and had the opportunity to cheat and send the Frogs packing I would cheat and I would cheat convincingly.

I would take it in a heartbeat and then spout a line like one u will here every week from some manager, "we got a bit of a lucky break there but we've been on the receiving end often enough"

There can be no replay as there is no rule in place to allow a retrospective change in the decision. It is not fair play and the rule should be changed but hasn't changed yet.

This also made me think of the 2006 world cup final when ZZ was red carded, nothing that can be proven but I am almost certain in game video evidence was used to make that decision. A correct decision but not if the officials missed it.

Hey there was nothing in the rules about having the play-off draw seeded but they changed that, so i guess they can make up and change rules as they please.

there may be nothing in the rule book - but then it has happened in the past that a Frenchman offered his opponents team a replay after they were on the opposing end of a miscarriage of justice

that was only a early round FA cip tie though - and this is the difference between being at the world cup finals in south africa and watching the tournament thousands of miles away at home on tv, i doubt the french will have the balls this time to offer the replay "just in case"

It was cheating but 99.9% of people would take it if it meant your team getting to the world cup.  There is no chance of a replay, but i reckon the Irish would be sweating if it was the other way around.  Fifa and Uefa etc will do everything they can to get the big team to the latter stages of tournaments. 

Gallas is such a luckbox.

Lol this is so com, I bet there is numerous goals scored later this season where a blatant handball is involved and no one will bat an eyelid.

The media has so much to answer for stirring this crap (mainly because people seem so incapable of thinking for themselves in these cases), Henry did what 99% of footballers would do in his situation for his country and is getting treated like he has committed genocide.

Also massive lol @ the comparisons with bloodgate, a pre meditated thoroughly planned cheating compared to a spur of the moment slight infraction of the rules.

Seriously get over it and move on.

I seem to have missed the part of the story where the irish offer a replay to georgia of the game with the decidely dubious penalty earlier in the qualifying campaign

I would love to hear what spacefrog makes of it

They don't seem to be talking about this for some reason.

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I have to ask, what was the offence?

http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/archive/germany2006/news/newsid=27212.html

The 2006 regulations (http://"http://eur.i1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/i/eu/fifa/regen.pdf") look exactly the same as the 2010 regulations (http://"http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/tournament/competition/56/42/69/fifa_wc_south_africa_2010_regulations_en_14123.pdf") to me. The difference between missing a free kick and incorrectly awarding a free kick looks pretty thin to me.

There's only one way to deal with these type of incidents. Get yourself a giant Ireland flag and stick it outside the ref's house. Should do the trick.

Swings and roundabouts IMO

Get over it....UL GG

When was the last time your team "Got away" with a dodgy decision?  Would'nt be that long ago I bet!

Roy Keane is full of sympathy LOL

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/8370497.stm

Same old same old - remember Joe Jordan at Anfield in 1977. Maradona in 86, Schumacher assaulting Battiston in 1982, Koemans getting Graham 'do I not like that' Taylor the sack ... all mistaken decisions by the officials, all pivotal


Rugby League and Union manage to use Video Refs pretty effectively, no real reason why Football shouldn't do the same.

Shame they can't do their usual rewriting of the rulebook and at least offer the Irish the chance of the Penalty Shootout they earned though.

Genuine or just trying to get out of a hole?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/8370764.stm

What a douche Keane, he prob wanted us to lose anyway. He quits World cups on a whim so no shock really that he dosent know what the commotion is all about

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Get out of a hole. Same as "Yes it was handball but I'm not the referee"..that's a similar thing to breaking into PC world, nicking a laptop and saying "Yes, it's theft but I'm not a police officer".

Game obv should not be replayed.

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