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it's names in hats time this friday so who do we want? if we can avoid france and poortugal we should walk the group, unfortunately european nations can be drawn against each other unlike other continents. even if we get one of those 2 it should be easy enough though

Pot one: South Africa, Brazil, Spain, Netherlands, Italy, Germany, Argentina, England

Pot two: Australia, Japan, North Korea, South Korea, Honduras, Mexico, U.S., New Zealand

Pot three: Chile, Paraguay, Uruguay, Nigeria, Cameroon, Ivory Coast, Ghana, Algeria

Pot four: Denmark, France, Greece, Serbia, Portugal, Slovenia, Slovakia, Switzerland

pretty com that fifa are still making the rules up as they go along. they didn't tell anyone what system they were going to use for seedings until they announced them, if they'd used the same as last time france would've been top seeds instead of the dutch but they decided to change the rules and screw the french over just a little bit

For me, the ideal draw would be New Zealand, Algeria, Switzerland
Worst would be USA, Ivory Coast, Portugal

I reckon we will get Mexico, Cameroon and Denmark

I'm mainly hoping we're in a different side of the draw than Spain and Brazil.

Don't give a crap about the group stages really.

Will they not be ranked 1 & 2, thus on different sides?

Doesn't work like that.

South Africa will be in Group A, the others are all random draw.

3 games a day! the group stages are the nuts!

Group stages>>>>Final

Heroes are born...

with chile, uruguay and paraguay not able to be drawn in a group with brazil or argentina that means there are 6 groups available for the 3 of them

unless my brain's melted that makes us even money to draw one of them as they're all in the same pot

the odds being offered for england to draw each of them individually is 11/2 atm. surely that's priced up wrong? aren't we getting better than evens on an even money shot if we back all 3 or is my maths wrong somewhere?

Isn't it 2/1 to draw 1 of them?  6 into 3?

So 11/2 is about what the bookies charge for a true 6/1 shot?

But am equally confused and probably even more wrong

6 non south american top seeds, england, holland, italy, spain, germany, sa. 3 of those will draw a south american team from pot 3 and 3 of them won't. even money surely

Think evens is right. 3 groups with one of them in and 3 without.

doesnt SA being a lock in group A change it?

no

Get portugal in group stage rather than face them in knockout stages and lose on penalties again *sigh*

I think the thing you're missing is that it depends on the order the groups are drawn in (which is random).

If England's group is first, then the chance of getting one of these three is 3 in 8. The best we can hope for is if we're done after both Brazil and Argentina, but before the SA countries have been allocated, so all three of them are in, but two of the other ones have already gone.

I was just about to stick £100 on each of the three but just before I did, that thought just popped into my head.


And this, obv.

But what if we're last and there's only Chile left, then it's 1 in 1?

Maybe it is a rick after all?

I've stuck the bets on now, so no one clever please now work out that Gatso was wrong.

have had a look on oddschecker and Betfair, which site is offering the market that gatso/AndrewT are discussing?

William Hill

Ty

if we get Mexico, Ivory Coast and Portugal we probs had a good run.

Only if you enjoy footie :)

yeah, the order will affect it at the time but we're placing the bet now and as of now there are 6 teams and 3 will get a south american oppo so all are flips. I'm now convinced after a lot of thought but it's a confusing one

also skybet

But skybet are 11/2 - hills are 6/1.

really? glad I didn't put a bet on at sky yet then

Anyone who doesnt enjoy footy and esp the World Cup is proper gay imo. How can you not fkin love it?

Arses Gatso - I've spotted the catch.

Yes, Brazil and Argentina can't get another South American team, but South Africa are one of the top seeds and they have to get one of them - they're not allowed an African team.

So whilst two of the non-South American teams will go to Brazil and Argentina, one of the South American teams will go to South Africa.

Looks like I have a -EV bet after all, just like I normally do.

ah, bugger, you're right. at least you're on at 6/1 and not 11/2

lol there had to be something.

thing is u were on a negative freeroll, as bookies would just realise theyd fked up and cancel the bets, they sure would cancel if they were right.

skybet are winnArs.

love it

They wouldn't cancel the bets as it wouldn't have been a palpable error (cashier writing down wrong odds or somesuch). It's just like any other market when the bookies price up a horse wrong - they'd just have cut the odds afterwards but the bet would have stood.

I'll see now if I can be bothered doing the maths to see how much £EV I just gave Hills.

Oh, and I blame Gatso, obv.

obv but you should've done what I did. ask on here what I was missing and then wait for someone to tell me rather than placing the bet.

Good thread Dewi.

England get France

South Africa get a draw that makes it virtually unforeseeable they don't make the QF

Hot balls ftw, conspiracy theories

"Group of Death" mention within 3 minutes of draw end


Those are my predictions

That all depends on what Charlize Theron is wearing.

So rigged that Usa and North Korea are in the same pot.

She sure sounds South African........

Aaaaaaaaaaaagh get the fk on with it, where is the velvet bag.

England prediction

Switzerland, Chile, USA.


And Holland/Netherlands will get the so called 'group of death'


Also, just get the fk on with it plz

No really, we mean it now.........

Seriously anyone who gives a shit about how this draw works, has read up on it earlier in the week.

 ;frustrated;

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Sigh Becks is too dumb to try and rig this.

how can beckham be involved with the draw, if he is going to play in the tournament ?

and the SA captain. seems a bit odd

Going well so far Brazil and Spain on other side of draw.

brazil in our half if we both win group according to bbc

atleast you missed mexico if you miss usa you should be ok

argies, germans and italians avoided

ouch

Balls that isn't a good draw from that pot.

Time to spank some yanks

1st of my prediction up

Not ideal, but nvm.

bad news

USA and the Brazil/Dutch half

Losing to the USA would be the biggest humiliation of the tourney

Why?

they are a decent team, worst draw in that pot short of Mexico

Nothing to do with the merits of the USA team, they are one of the most improved teams of the last few years, I just mean the idea of losing in our own sport to Americans.

In pub with some Italians - they've just stuck the Kiwis right in my eye.

We will challenge them to pub games and cricket if we lose.

That's better Algeria


Now then Slovenia please

That will do one of the better draws.

think pot 3 is a good one for you guys

not if we also lose to algeria

just seen the schedule i think england might get to play there quarter final on my birthday what a present that will be england getting knocked out and 50 million english crying

Who have Scotland got in their group?

how many english poker players will be in algeria while the WC and WSOP are in progress

we are playing england 3 tmes in group stage

Meh, at least we have something to look forward to. All you have is wind, rain and general misery surrounding you up there.

France in QFs if we win and they second lol


SA, France, Mexico, Uruguay. Yuk!

wow group A looks tough

South Africa won't be happy with that group.

Charlize Theron is annoying the hell out of me

no portugal please

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Wooooooooooohooooooooooooooo

Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii ship that group.

weeeeeeeeeee that will do

heaven group.

u forgot the fresh air, the hills, the fishing, the whisky and the sheep

Good group, but will have a testing second round game if we get out the group.

Germany, Ghana, Serbia and Aus is a monster group too

Nothing easy there

I am now anti-railing the Italians to get Portugal.

nice group USA could of been better but apart from that you should see england into the last 16 atleast

Italy odds on in that group

Brazil, Ivory Coast, Portugal. Wowzers

gg North Korea you had a great run.

Group of Death = Group G.

brazil, n. korea, cote d'ivoire, portugal. sick group

yeah, get out Portugal plz.

LOL just searched flights for a laugh, £1600 to Cape Town. GG hooligans..........

Edit-Actually just looked again about £1k if your flexible with dates, that's actually not bad considering.

Was best part of a grand when we went last year so not too bad imo

nice draw for us.

Have England not done that already at a WC? ;angel;

Yup 1950.

Can't wait for the interviews with Bougherra in the Scottish tabloids and the headlines from that;

"I will humiliate England", says Algerian superstar!

and all that sort of nonsense.

Which group's teams do we play in the round of 16 if we get through?

Germanys i think they said

Or was that the round after? i duno.

The Germany group.

Germany, Australia, Ghana or Serbia.

I think this is worse than Brazil's group.

Engerland to go far.

and potentially a winner of the France group in the QF and, lol, potentially Brazil in the semis

Nothing like the next six months to build yer hopes up

if you win your group do you play your QF on the 2nd or the 3rd?

England first 2 games are on Saturday and Friday night 730 ko, the pubs/town centre's are going to be carnage.

Assuming holland win their group and Italy win theirs it looks like Slovakia or Paraguay in the second round....do able...then probs Brazil (assuming they'll win their group)....not soo much do able.

Quarter finals for us then. ah well,, at least I'll be living in hope when we play brilliant in the group stages and brilliant against Slovakia...then the Brazil game will be all hyped us as the game of the tournament and all that and it will be shit as we'll get humped.

2nd

1st 3 ko games should be australia, france, brazil if we can stay in and other games go to form

not a bad draw for engerland

ok i am an england fan till the quarters so i can watch them bust on my 40th

Put our name on the trophy now

This, Ldo  ;)

Excellent group,looking forward to it already guna be immense.

PS I don't really think we will win it but i'm confident that will we do best we possible could with capello in charge lets gogogogo

Thought Spain had a nice easy draw in a group against Honduras, Chile and Switzerland - but then realized that they have to play the runners up from Brazil, Ivory Coast and Portugal's group :D

FYP

erm yeah - i know they are a bit of an unknown quantity but if they finish runners up in the group of death i will go a whole week without eating a banana!!

Well, Kim Young Ill won't even be showing the WC on North Korean telly unless they win so he must be confident

either that or next september the Korean public will be asking "so when does the world cup start?"..... :D