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Title: quick one - super standard fold pre? $10k gtd 25/50 playing c5k stack Post by: sovietsong on January 02, 2010, 10:48:14 AM Full Tilt Poker Game #17267795782: $10,000 Guarantee (129294094), Table 20 - 25/50 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:38:04 ET - 2010/01/02
Seat 1: Stackz4Life (4,625) Seat 2: kill will now (170), is sitting out Seat 3: mariloco (2,565) Seat 4: hchamp4 (4,360) Seat 5: sovietsong (5,020) Seat 6: fleamick90 (5,075) Seat 7: 1--penelope--1 (6,995) Seat 9: kiwifishNZ (7,730) Stackz4Life posts the small blind of 25 kill will now posts the big blind of 50 The button is in seat #9 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to sovietsong [Jc Jd] mariloco folds hchamp4 raises to 175 sovietsong raises to 550 fleamick90 folds 1--penelope--1 folds kiwifishNZ calls 550 Stackz4Life folds kill will now folds hchamp4 raises to 4,360, and is all in this is a standard fold? Title: Re: quick one - super standard fold pre? $10k gtd 25/50 playing c5k stack Post by: action man on January 02, 2010, 11:23:24 AM its a super standard flat pre. Now its a hate life fold without reads.
Title: Re: quick one - super standard fold pre? $10k gtd 25/50 playing c5k stack Post by: sovietsong on January 02, 2010, 11:28:34 AM its a super standard flat pre. Now its a hate life fold without reads. tyty i fking hate jacks. misplay them at every opportunity! Title: Re: quick one - super standard fold pre? $10k gtd 25/50 playing c5k stack Post by: ChipRich on January 02, 2010, 12:35:15 PM its a super standard flat pre. Now its a hate life fold without reads. this basically. Defo flat pre for me, but now fold i guess. Title: Re: quick one - super standard fold pre? $10k gtd 25/50 playing c5k stack Post by: Sack it off on January 02, 2010, 01:02:31 PM How come you flatting pre?
I'd 3b. Is it to get more value from your hand as you are so deep and early in a tournament? Title: Re: quick one - super standard fold pre? $10k gtd 25/50 playing c5k stack Post by: Cf on January 02, 2010, 02:01:16 PM I also flat pre.
The problem with 3betting for me here is that against an unknown a 4bet means only one of three hands. And I pretty much have to fold. If you do get flat called then this doesn't really help you either. They may be getting stubborn with their suited connectors or whatever. Or they may be being tricky with their premiums. Either way, you don't really know and you're going to be uncomfortable on most flops. Just flat call and play the streets. Bear in mind that you're not necessarily set mining here. If you have a good read on your opponent then I guess you might 3bet and call a shove for value. But if someone really is this spewy then sticking in 100 bigs pre doesn't seem to most profitible way of getting their chips. Title: Re: quick one - super standard fold pre? $10k gtd 25/50 playing c5k stack Post by: Royal Flush on January 02, 2010, 05:28:16 PM How come you flatting pre? Because 3b folding is like hell in a can. Title: Re: quick one - super standard fold pre? $10k gtd 25/50 playing c5k stack Post by: Sack it off on January 02, 2010, 05:31:58 PM Fair points,
I would prefer to play a bigger pot in position, I can take charge of the pot and I can give a free card or make him pay for a card. I wouldn't like to be facing a big bet flop and turn on a 9 high board. Title: Re: quick one - super standard fold pre? $10k gtd 25/50 playing c5k stack Post by: Sack it off on January 04, 2010, 02:19:00 PM lol @ your condescending manner, ty
Title: Re: quick one - super standard fold pre? $10k gtd 25/50 playing c5k stack Post by: EvilPie on January 04, 2010, 05:16:18 PM Fair points, I would prefer to play a bigger pot in position, I can take charge of the pot and I can give a free card or make him pay for a card. I wouldn't like to be facing a big bet flop and turn on a 9 high board. You're living in a dream world if you expect people to peel a flop to 3bets oop ever. Yeah everyone would prefer that but it never happens any more, pretty much everyone knows to 4bet or fold in villain's spot. If he's never calling, only 4betting or folding, and you're folding to a 4bet then congratulations, you have successfully turned your JJ into a bluff. Are you 3 bet calling KK and AA only, possibly AK? Do you 3 bet fold anything here? suited connectors for example? |