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Title: 1010 very first hand
Post by: AgentChip109 on January 15, 2010, 06:44:20 AM
was about to go to bed then see this guy sitting wiv 2k at 2/4. my thoughts straight away when i see someone with a big stack is that theyre a donk and i want to take that big stack. as such, this is my first hand so no reads

***** Hand History for Game 104438595 ***** (Pacific)
$400.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, January 13, 06:27:35 ET 2010
Table Algiers (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Seat 1: nbindoff ( $1961.44 USD )
Seat 2: edgy811 ( $400.00 USD )
Seat 3: mrsfakfak ( $730.80 USD )
Seat 4: proetschel ( $150.00 USD )
Seat 6: wulfs ( $402.00 USD )
Seat 7: patdekos ( $858.30 USD )
nbindoff posts small blind [$2.00 USD].
edgy811 posts big blind [$4.00 USD].
proetschel folds
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to edgy811 [  Th Ts ]
mrsfakfak folds
wulfs calls [$4.00 USD]
patdekos raises [$24.00 USD]
nbindoff calls [$22.00 USD]
edgy811 raises [$96.00 USD]
wulfs folds
patdekos folds
nbindoff calls [$76.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5c, Jd, 3h ]
nbindoff checks


how do we proceed??? i have $300 back. pot is $228


Title: Re: 1010 very first hand
Post by: paulhouk03 on January 15, 2010, 06:56:16 AM
I think ur 3 bet is too big

Just over half to2/3rds of pot

Checking isn't so bad


Title: Re: 1010 very first hand
Post by: paulhouk03 on January 15, 2010, 06:57:45 AM
As in cbet half to 2/3rd pot


Title: Re: 1010 very first hand
Post by: action man on January 15, 2010, 08:38:41 AM
I think ur 3 bet is too big

Just over half to2/3rds of pot

Checking isn't so bad

u do realise that the 3bet has been flatted?

as played u can bet to commit or shove.

checking behind here is awful imo. if we check behind when an overcard hits the flop
we should just peel the 3bet.  fwiw im an awful cash player and big loser at anything past 2/4


Title: Re: 1010 very first hand
Post by: Cf on January 15, 2010, 09:19:26 AM
What actionman said.

3bet size was fine.


Title: Re: 1010 very first hand
Post by: GreekStein on January 15, 2010, 10:15:53 AM
see this guy sitting wiv 2k at 2/4. my thoughts straight away when i see someone with a big stack is that theyre a donk and i want to take that big stack.


lol!

Bet / call here imo.


Title: Re: 1010 very first hand
Post by: paulhouk03 on January 15, 2010, 10:23:30 AM
I think ur 3 bet is too big

Just over half to2/3rds of pot

Checking isn't so bad

u do realise that the 3bet has been flatted?

as played u can bet to commit or shove.

checking behind here is awful imo. if we check behind when an overcard hits the flop
we should just peel the 3bet.  fwiw im an awful cash player and big loser at anything past 2/4
peel what 3 bet?



Title: Re: 1010 very first hand
Post by: action man on January 15, 2010, 10:45:22 AM
told ya i was bad... peel the open ldo


Title: Re: 1010 very first hand
Post by: LeedsRhodesy on January 15, 2010, 12:05:05 PM

was about to go to bed then see this guy sitting wiv 2k at 2/4. my thoughts straight away when i see someone with a big stack is that theyre a donk and i want to take that big stack. as such, this is my first hand so no reads




wft.......... Why is someone with a big stack a donk???   so when i have played 7 hours at a 50/1 table and been sat on £500 does that mean im a donk???




Title: Re: 1010 very first hand
Post by: Cottonbud on January 15, 2010, 12:14:48 PM
my thoughts straight away when i see someone with a big stack is that theyre a donk and i want to take that big stack.

Oh I did wonder, now that explains it that's how I get these big stacks!


Title: Re: 1010 very first hand
Post by: LeedsRhodesy on January 15, 2010, 12:45:31 PM


When does poker table rating update?? i want to see the outcome of the hand


Title: Re: 1010 very first hand
Post by: GreekStein on January 15, 2010, 01:03:34 PM
my thoughts straight away when i see someone with a big stack is that theyre a donk and i want to take that big stack.

Oh I did wonder, now that explains it that's how I get these big stacks!

Disgusting brag.

BAN!


Title: Re: 1010 very first hand
Post by: pleno1 on January 15, 2010, 01:15:15 PM
pre is fine. $146 and obv get it in.


Title: Re: 1010 very first hand
Post by: EvilPie on January 15, 2010, 02:07:48 PM

was about to go to bed then see this guy sitting wiv 2k at 2/4. my thoughts straight away when i see someone with a big stack is that theyre a donk and i want to take that big stack. as such, this is my first hand so no reads


So when you take his big stack and are sat there with it what does that make you?


Title: Re: 1010 very first hand
Post by: AgentChip109 on January 15, 2010, 02:12:39 PM

was about to go to bed then see this guy sitting wiv 2k at 2/4. my thoughts straight away when i see someone with a big stack is that theyre a donk and i want to take that big stack. as such, this is my first hand so no reads


So when you take his big stack and are sat there with it what does that make you?


lol this was meant to be a bit of a joke. obv not true


Title: Re: 1010 very first hand
Post by: Cottonbud on January 15, 2010, 04:23:57 PM
my thoughts straight away when i see someone with a big stack is that theyre a donk and i want to take that big stack.

Oh I did wonder, now that explains it that's how I get these big stacks!

Disgusting brag.

BAN!

muhahahahahahaha


Title: Re: 1010 very first hand
Post by: LeedsRhodesy on January 15, 2010, 04:27:13 PM


so what did you do???


Title: Re: 1010 very first hand
Post by: titaniumbean on January 15, 2010, 04:28:38 PM
was about to go to bed then see this guy sitting wiv 2k at 2/4. my thoughts straight away when i see someone with a big stack is that theyre a donk and i want to take that big stack. as such, this is my first hand so no reads

***** Hand History for Game 104438595 ***** (Pacific)
$400.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, January 13, 06:27:35 ET 2010
Table Algiers (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Seat 1: nbindoff ( $1961.44 USD )
Seat 2: edgy811 ( $400.00 USD )
Seat 3: mrsfakfak ( $730.80 USD )
Seat 4: proetschel ( $150.00 USD )
Seat 6: wulfs ( $402.00 USD )
Seat 7: patdekos ( $858.30 USD )
nbindoff posts small blind [$2.00 USD].
edgy811 posts big blind [$4.00 USD].
proetschel folds
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to edgy811 [  Th Ts ]
mrsfakfak folds
wulfs calls [$4.00 USD]
patdekos raises [$24.00 USD]
nbindoff calls [$22.00 USD]
edgy811 raises [$96.00 USD]
wulfs folds
patdekos folds
nbindoff calls [$76.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5c, Jd, 3h ]
nbindoff checks


how do we proceed??? i have $300 back. pot is $228

how about ptr the guy and get the money in on the flop. I dont see what the discussion is?


Title: Re: 1010 very first hand
Post by: Cottonbud on January 15, 2010, 04:29:27 PM
was about to go to bed then see this guy sitting wiv 2k at 2/4. my thoughts straight away when i see someone with a big stack is that theyre a donk and i want to take that big stack. as such, this is my first hand so no reads

***** Hand History for Game 104438595 ***** (Pacific)
$400.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, January 13, 06:27:35 ET 2010
Table Algiers (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Seat 1: nbindoff ( $1961.44 USD )
Seat 2: edgy811 ( $400.00 USD )
Seat 3: mrsfakfak ( $730.80 USD )
Seat 4: proetschel ( $150.00 USD )
Seat 6: wulfs ( $402.00 USD )
Seat 7: patdekos ( $858.30 USD )
nbindoff posts small blind [$2.00 USD].
edgy811 posts big blind [$4.00 USD].
proetschel folds
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to edgy811 [  Th Ts ]
mrsfakfak folds
wulfs calls [$4.00 USD]
patdekos raises [$24.00 USD]
nbindoff calls [$22.00 USD]
edgy811 raises [$96.00 USD]
wulfs folds
patdekos folds
nbindoff calls [$76.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5c, Jd, 3h ]
nbindoff checks


how do we proceed??? i have $300 back. pot is $228

how about ptr the guy and get the money in on the flop. I dont see what the discussion is?

PTR doesn't work on 888.com mate :(


Title: Re: 1010 very first hand
Post by: titaniumbean on January 15, 2010, 05:16:20 PM
I dont know what site it is you bumder.


my point is the flop isn't the decision, the decision is made pf with the 3 bet. 

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Title: Re: 1010 very first hand
Post by: AlexMartin on January 16, 2010, 02:10:08 PM
bet call here is fking awful v an unknown.



Title: Re: 1010 very first hand
Post by: pleno1 on January 16, 2010, 07:36:35 PM
bet call here is fking awful v an unknown.



what is optimal? should our bet size not always be the same if we have a set/overpair, so if we are bettng we are pricing ourselves in alot?

c/f seems ridic weak

b/f if we are betting 1/2-3/4 pot seems a leak as we are basically priced in

c/shove?


Title: Re: 1010 very first hand
Post by: EvilPie on January 16, 2010, 07:55:42 PM
bet call here is fking awful v an unknown.



Should we just be doing a flat call pre then until we have at least a few orbits worth of hands?

I guess 3 betting a quarter of our stack against a guy who's obviously on a roll is likely to lead to to some decisions on the flop.

Tens are usually going to see an overcard so we have to expect something like this to happen so what should we be doing pre?


Title: Re: 1010 very first hand
Post by: AlexMartin on January 16, 2010, 08:45:25 PM
bet call here is fking awful v an unknown.



what is optimal? should our bet size not always be the same if we have a set/overpair, so if we are bettng we are pricing ourselves in alot?

balancing betsizing v non-regs (or even regs really) is unnecessary. so few ppl do their homework.

c/f seems ridic weak


given preflop action, chances of unknown bluffing here over a cbet are minimal. really wouldnt worry about being exploited here (coz its dry/have no hisotry of b/f in 3b pots), maybe call the 1st time and take a note, but if a random crai here its aj+, mainly QQ+ way more than anything u beat

b/f if we are betting 1/2-3/4 pot seems a leak as we are basically priced in

we are never priced in, given we have 2 clean outs and we'll be getting about 3:1

c/shove?



bet call here is fking awful v an unknown.



Should we just be doing a flat call pre then until we have at least a few orbits worth of hands?

I guess 3 betting a quarter of our stack against a guy who's obviously on a roll is likely to lead to to some decisions on the flop.

Tens are usually going to see an overcard so we have to expect something like this to happen so what should we be doing pre?

pre standard, post looks like b/f $138 to me.