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Title: Eye 2 wedges Post by: Royal Flush on January 31, 2010, 02:31:48 AM Does anyone know what the 1990 lawsuit was about?!
Title: Re: Eye 2 wedges Post by: Ironside on January 31, 2010, 04:12:56 AM think the tour wouldnt allow square grooves but i could be wrong
Title: Re: Eye 2 wedges Post by: LeedsRhodesy on January 31, 2010, 11:23:13 AM Other large scale USGA rulings involve a 1990 law suit, and subsequent settlement, against Karsten Manufacturing, makers of the PING brand, for their use of square, or U-grooves in their immensely popular Ping Eye2 irons. The USGA argued that players who used the Eye2 had an unfair advantage in imparting spin on the ball, which helps to stop the ball on the putting greens. The USGA utilized John L. Saksun, founder of Canadian golf company Accuform Golf, as a consultant to set up methods of measuring the unique grooves and determining PING's compliance with the rulings.[5] Saksun, by proposing a cost-effective solution to help PING change the design of subsequent Eye2s, saved PING hundreds of millions. PING subsequently withdrew their US$100 million lawsuit against the USGA. Ping’s older clubs were "grandfathered in" and allowed to remain in play as part of the settlement.[6] Today, square grooves are considered perfectly legal under the Rules of Golf. However, the USGA has determined that square grooves are illegal in elite-level competition.[7]
Title: Re: Eye 2 wedges Post by: Karabiner on January 31, 2010, 11:54:35 AM I had a set of eye2 irons and was told by my local professional that they were about to become illegal because of the grooves and I would not be allowed to use them in club competitions. I think that was around 1993/4.
He told me about an "amnesty" that Ping were having whereby you could trade your old eye2 set in for a brand new set of eye2+ which had the new conforming grooves and have everything customised at the Ping factory in Lincolnshire, all for around £100. I duly booked an appointment at the Ping factory and got my brand spanking new set of Ping eye2+ which I still use today and which I reckon to be the best set of irons that Ping have ever produced. I have the lofts slightly strengthened as they are not as strong as most modern iron sets but the feel is tremendous. Title: Re: Eye 2 wedges Post by: Royal Flush on January 31, 2010, 02:00:53 PM think the tour wouldnt allow square grooves but i could be wrong 1990 not 2010. Other large scale USGA rulings involve a 1990 law suit, and subsequent settlement, against Karsten Manufacturing, makers of the PING brand, for their use of square, or U-grooves in their immensely popular Ping Eye2 irons. The USGA argued that players who used the Eye2 had an unfair advantage in imparting spin on the ball, which helps to stop the ball on the putting greens. The USGA utilized John L. Saksun, founder of Canadian golf company Accuform Golf, as a consultant to set up methods of measuring the unique grooves and determining PING's compliance with the rulings.[5] Saksun, by proposing a cost-effective solution to help PING change the design of subsequent Eye2s, saved PING hundreds of millions. PING subsequently withdrew their US$100 million lawsuit against the USGA. Ping’s older clubs were "grandfathered in" and allowed to remain in play as part of the settlement.[6] Today, square grooves are considered perfectly legal under the Rules of Golf. However, the USGA has determined that square grooves are illegal in elite-level competition.[7] Cheers. Pretty com picturing all the pro's sifting through old clubs trying to find them. Title: Re: Eye 2 wedges Post by: AndrewT on January 31, 2010, 03:16:41 PM A player has called Phil Mickleson out for being a cheat because he's using the old clubs.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/lawrence-donegan-golf-blog/2010/jan/31/golf-phil-mickelson-cheating-lawrence-donegan Title: Re: Eye 2 wedges Post by: Royal Flush on January 31, 2010, 04:22:59 PM A player has called Phil Mickleson out for being a cheat because he's using the old clubs. http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/lawrence-donegan-golf-blog/2010/jan/31/golf-phil-mickelson-cheating-lawrence-donegan WW2 finished as well.... Title: Re: Eye 2 wedges Post by: Junior Senior on January 31, 2010, 08:45:59 PM Ping Eye 2 irons are simply the best clubs made in the last 20 years - timeless relaible classic. I've had mine for 15 yrs now and would not consider a change. I have the old square groove heads, which were made illegal but i had them re-conditioned around the time of the rule change. Lie Karra says Ping would do this for free at the time but not sure if they still do it. If they do then it could be worth searching ebay for old illegal ping clubs and driving to lincolnshire to claim your new or re-furbished set!
Title: Re: Eye 2 wedges Post by: Ironside on January 31, 2010, 09:28:37 PM think the tour wouldnt allow square grooves but i could be wrong 1990 not 2010. Other large scale USGA rulings involve a 1990 law suit, and subsequent settlement, against Karsten Manufacturing, makers of the PING brand, for their use of square, or U-grooves in their immensely popular Ping Eye2 irons. The USGA argued that players who used the Eye2 had an unfair advantage in imparting spin on the ball, which helps to stop the ball on the putting greens. The USGA utilized John L. Saksun, founder of Canadian golf company Accuform Golf, as a consultant to set up methods of measuring the unique grooves and determining PING's compliance with the rulings.[5] Saksun, by proposing a cost-effective solution to help PING change the design of subsequent Eye2s, saved PING hundreds of millions. PING subsequently withdrew their US$100 million lawsuit against the USGA. Ping’s older clubs were "grandfathered in" and allowed to remain in play as part of the settlement.[6] Today, square grooves are considered perfectly legal under the Rules of Golf. However, the USGA has determined that square grooves are illegal in elite-level competition.[7] Cheers. Pretty com picturing all the pro's sifting through old clubs trying to find them. is that not what i said but in not as many words? Title: Re: Eye 2 wedges Post by: Royal Flush on February 01, 2010, 12:42:47 AM think the tour wouldnt allow square grooves but i could be wrong 1990 not 2010. Other large scale USGA rulings involve a 1990 law suit, and subsequent settlement, against Karsten Manufacturing, makers of the PING brand, for their use of square, or U-grooves in their immensely popular Ping Eye2 irons. The USGA argued that players who used the Eye2 had an unfair advantage in imparting spin on the ball, which helps to stop the ball on the putting greens. The USGA utilized John L. Saksun, founder of Canadian golf company Accuform Golf, as a consultant to set up methods of measuring the unique grooves and determining PING's compliance with the rulings.[5] Saksun, by proposing a cost-effective solution to help PING change the design of subsequent Eye2s, saved PING hundreds of millions. PING subsequently withdrew their US$100 million lawsuit against the USGA. Ping’s older clubs were "grandfathered in" and allowed to remain in play as part of the settlement.[6] Today, square grooves are considered perfectly legal under the Rules of Golf. However, the USGA has determined that square grooves are illegal in elite-level competition.[7] Cheers. Pretty com picturing all the pro's sifting through old clubs trying to find them. is that not what i said but in not as many words? Ermm are you trying to level me? |