Title: DTD 300 Final table hand Post by: George2Loose on February 10, 2010, 09:17:44 PM OK 5 handed. Im chip leader in SB. Big blind is Colin Wu- fairly capable but quite solid. Saying that he likes to peel quite a bit pre.
Im playing around 1.2m. Colin has 800k. Blinds are 12k/24k/2.5k. I've not had a sb/bb dynamic with Colin has the player between has just been knocked out. Saying that I have been fairly relentless on the button and doubled up through colin when he shoved into me on an a886 two club board with 95 clubs when I had aces. I look down at KK. I misclick raise to 63k (meant to make it 73) but have a feeling Colin would be peeling wide against me cos he doesn't want to be pushed around. Pot is around 130 and comes down A62 rainbow. My default line should be? Title: Re: DTD 300 Final table hand Post by: Sack it off on February 10, 2010, 09:58:53 PM I check cos I like to check alot of these flops, even if I had AJ I would check call.
If he checks behind I will bet the turn expecting him to fold. I think betting this flop won't really achieve much as you won't get value from anything but an Ace hand and you can easily be raising off the best hand. Title: Re: DTD 300 Final table hand Post by: LuckyLloyd on February 10, 2010, 10:31:43 PM Bet, because you have a really strong holding relative to how wide a range he assumes you raise with pre and c-bet every flop with. This is the kind of spot where I want to get really stubborn. You have to think about the massive amount of hands he would have been willing to call with preflop and the frequency with which he will not want to give up. Then you also realise that it's now five handed (and blind on blind) and everyone has made a few quid.
All in all, I bet and am not really looking to fold at any point from here. The times he actually turns up with a hand when money goes in are shrug worthy. Title: Re: DTD 300 Final table hand Post by: Cf on February 10, 2010, 10:41:54 PM Bet, because you have a really strong holding relative to how wide a range he assumes you raise with pre and c-bet every flop with. This is the kind of spot where I want to get really stubborn. You have to think about the massive amount of hands he would have been willing to call with preflop and the frequency with which he will not want to give up. Then you also realise that it's now five handed (and blind on blind) and everyone has made a few quid. All in all, I bet and am not really looking to fold at any point from here. The times he actually turns up with a hand when money goes in are shrug worthy. Really? Villain is described as a capable, but quite solid player. We've raised pre OOP and if we now bet OOP. The flop is A62r. What exactly is the villain going to have if we somehow manage to get all the money in here? That we beat? Yeah, he's a capable player, but given we've raised pre and the texture of the board I don't see what he's going to be getting creative with here. I probably check here, and proceed after either a) seeing a turn card or b) assessing villain's bet. Title: Re: DTD 300 Final table hand Post by: George2Loose on February 11, 2010, 12:07:30 AM Right not gonna drag this out too long. I bet because as Lloyd said i really didn't think his pre flop CALLING range included too many aces. I really think the frequency I had been raising he would be happy to stack of with Ax pre.
So I c bet for value hoping he'd either try to run a bluff or turn some sort of hand into a bluff. I lead for 73k..... after some though he made it 200k. I should....? Title: Re: DTD 300 Final table hand Post by: Cf on February 11, 2010, 12:29:42 AM Meh, this is pretty villain dependent so depends how you've seen him play in similar scenarios and any history the two of you have.
Also, what are the other stack sizes at the table? I'm assuming you're the two big stacks here. If so I probably fold. If there's short stacks still at the table I don't really see why he's playing back at the CL here, esp on this flop where you can easily have Ax. It's not as if he can represent anything himself apart from the ace/set. Ok, he might be bluffing you, and the fact that this seems like a spot where he isn't bluffing might make the bluff more likely but meh, whatever, he's got enough chips to hurt you, I'd let it go. And fwiw I love flat calling SB raises in the BB with an ace for precisely the reason that so many people seem to think people don't just call bvb with an ace. Title: Re: DTD 300 Final table hand Post by: Sack it off on February 11, 2010, 03:10:52 AM Agree with CF, he explains my thinking better than I do
Title: Re: DTD 300 Final table hand Post by: NigDawG on February 11, 2010, 04:40:58 PM This thread title is such a not so thinly veiled brag lol.
Fwiw played with colin quite a bit and I think he would be peeling ALOT Inc with Ax hands pre. Post flop he can also get a bit fps. I would probs c/c since it's very difficult for him to call the flop with worse but he can def bluff if u give him the greenlight to do so. Title: Re: DTD 300 Final table hand Post by: kinboshi on February 11, 2010, 04:47:04 PM This thread title is such a not so thinly veiled brag lol. Title: Re: DTD 300 Final table hand Post by: gribbo on February 11, 2010, 06:25:04 PM i get it alll in here, don't see him raising with top pair in position on the flop here with such a dry board. Esp when you having an aggro image and assuming ur shelling the turn a high % of the time.
Title: Re: DTD 300 Final table hand Post by: gribbo on February 13, 2010, 03:18:04 PM what happened here george?
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