Title: How do people play this turn? Post by: outragous76 on February 14, 2010, 03:31:21 PM ok what do people prefer? (this is a rush hand but i dont think it matters)
1. getting them in here (is that playing too scared?) 2. flatting - then leading (to a non improved board) 3. flatting - then check calling (on boad board) 4. flatting - then check raising on good river? Full Tilt Poker Game #18453761090: Table Adrenaline - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 9:55:43 ET - 2010/02/14 Seat 1: cashaknish ($151.70) Seat 2: undiscipline ($141.10) Seat 3: okmju ($21.40) Seat 4: EVPlus ($167.20) Seat 5: patkingpin ($45) Seat 6: omminous ($45.60) Seat 7: Zippo_jke ($162.55) Seat 8: outragous76 ($151.90) Seat 9: mdterpsfan_33 ($99) omminous posts the small blind of $0.50 Zippo_jke posts the big blind of $1 The button is in seat #5 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to outragous76 [Qh Jd] outragous76 raises to $3 mdterpsfan_33 calls $3 cashaknish folds undiscipline folds okmju folds EVPlus folds patkingpin folds omminous folds Zippo_jke folds *** FLOP *** [Ts 8s 9h] outragous76 bets $3 mdterpsfan_33 calls $3 *** TURN *** [Ts 8s 9h] [4c] outragous76 bets $8 mdterpsfan_33 has 15 seconds left to act mdterpsfan_33 raises to $24 outragous76 has 15 seconds left to act Title: Re: How do people play this turn? Post by: doubleup on February 14, 2010, 03:44:47 PM Just get it in - he either has a made hand, set or slowplayed AA/KK and will call or he has a draw and prob won't bluff the river if he misses (because by calling you are repping a made hand). btw I really don't think QJo is a prpfitable utg raise if full ring. Title: Re: How do people play this turn? Post by: Dubai on February 14, 2010, 04:03:52 PM fold pre, bet bigger on flop, get it in on turn- no need to slowplay with no reads
Title: Re: How do people play this turn? Post by: SteveSpring on February 14, 2010, 04:16:28 PM I agree flop bet should be bigger, and just ship the turn
Title: Re: How do people play this turn? Post by: gatso on February 14, 2010, 04:32:09 PM fold pre, bet bigger on flop, get it in on turn- no need to slowplay with no reads this, this and this hate the utg raise 9 handed, bet size on flop is horrid Title: Re: How do people play this turn? Post by: outragous76 on February 14, 2010, 04:34:59 PM fold pre, bet bigger on flop, get it in on turn- no need to slowplay with no reads flop is horrid dont just say it? why Title: Re: How do people play this turn? Post by: gatso on February 14, 2010, 04:39:36 PM what are you trying to acheive betting 40% of the pot apart from pricing in the fd?
Title: Re: How do people play this turn? Post by: titaniumbean on February 14, 2010, 04:40:17 PM dubai said it all.
flop needs to be bigger, there is tons he can peel with, we have the nuts....... re-raise turn. edit it also matters that it's rush because it's a different game type. deffo fold pre. Title: Re: How do people play this turn? Post by: outragous76 on February 14, 2010, 04:48:54 PM what are you trying to acheive betting 40% of the pot apart from pricing in the fd? i flopped the schnizzles - im happy to build the pot here what if the guy has flopped a set? i just dont think it is terrible - ok i can bet more - but do you really think he is folding if i bet 70% of the pot? I am also happy for him to raise any hand where he thinks I am weak leading ii just dont think the word terrible was necessary Title: Re: How do people play this turn? Post by: gatso on February 14, 2010, 04:52:18 PM yeah, soz missed out half of my reply. please read it as
what are you trying to acheive betting 40% of the pot that betting bigger doesn't achieve apart from pricing in the fd? you're right that you want to build the pot so build it, don't drip feed it Title: Re: How do people play this turn? Post by: TheChipPrince on February 14, 2010, 05:12:36 PM Can I ask if the board comes A 4 8 do you still bet $3?
Title: Re: How do people play this turn? Post by: outragous76 on February 14, 2010, 05:15:52 PM Can I ask if the board comes A 4 8 do you still bet $3? whilst holding QJ/playing rush /OOP? - erm no Title: Re: How do people play this turn? Post by: Dubai on February 14, 2010, 05:40:07 PM I prefer betting $3 on A84 rainbow than on this board. The reason you bet bigger is because opponents that call $3 will always call $5 on these boards, and you are v unlikely to induce bluff raises at these stakes, on this board in rush poker- so just bet big and get the maximum from his calling range which consists of a bundle of combos that he aint folding
Title: Re: How do people play this turn? Post by: pleno1 on February 14, 2010, 05:48:02 PM fold pre,
as played bet 5 on flop, as played $8 is fine now jam. Title: Re: How do people play this turn? Post by: titaniumbean on February 14, 2010, 05:50:19 PM So are you bet sizing dependent on hand strength or board texture?
Title: Re: How do people play this turn? Post by: George2Loose on February 14, 2010, 06:13:30 PM How much do you bet if the board comes
QQQ JJJ 767 442 858 456 rainbow a76 3 clubs a176 3 diamonds k thx Title: Re: How do people play this turn? Post by: outragous76 on February 14, 2010, 06:35:16 PM titanium.........
in this instance my bet was thrown out to see if he had anything at all. people arent playing junk hands in rush from MP lots of people raise/fold their marginal hands here - im happy for that to happen to be honest betting 3 or 5 here just doesnt matter - because we arent getting it in on the turn unless he has a set (or wants to get it in with 2 overs and the flush draw) anyway - im not bothered about my pre and post flop action in particular - like the title said, im really interested (especially given the stack sizes) as to the play on the turn. also - what do people think is in the villains range given his actions? |