blonde poker forum

So there I am lying in bed on a Saturday morning, recovering from getting smashed the night before and I get a phone call.

Its from someone pretty famous and well connected. To be honest he's one of my heroes.

Oi Clown
Me mate owns some stables and wants to know if I want to buy a horse.
Get on that there Blonde and start a thread cus everyone just rips me when I start them!

So I said I would.

I have no info.

But I dont want to incurr the wrath of Shefield.

Its a horse
Its 11k
Syndicateaments.

Ill have £500

[  ] I expect the rest to be sold by the end of the day.
[X] I might get my nose bitten for not giving this the effort it deserves!

how much would the training fees be?

I'm in, on the condition that I definitely get my nose bitten off.

Btw Stu do you know the monthly costs of these things?

[ ] Giving said famous person your phone number is mega +EV

Whos the trainer please.

Training fees are included for the first year I vaguely remember

how many legs does it have?

is it a good horse and will we win more money than if we invested £500 with blatch?

3,4 or 5 I think were the choices

Lol at people thinking Blatch has any money left in that pot!

Plan B


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are you paying by bank transfer or via a well known poker site?

so the horse is worth £0 and the training fees are £11k

No doubt the mystery horse broker will be along to answer questions after he has finished his question time in Nick Griffin's office......

I think he's beyond any training.   Oh, you mean the horse...

I lol'd

I spoke to a guy from Sheffield about this on Friday night.

It actually sounds like it could be a good laugh if enough people are interested.

All the training fees are included for the first year so it's very much a one off investment. If it's going to be expensive in year 2 then give it to Tom to stick in his field.

I don't think this sort of thing is about making money tbh. It's more about a group of people getting together and following their very own horse. If it happens to make a few quid then brilliant. If not then as long as you get enjoyment from it even if that's just laughing at it every time it falls over then it's £10 per week well spent imo.

There are plenty of other ways to make money from owning a racehorse

I didnt know about this.
How much would you be willing to pay for 15 mins with our horse Neil?
€50?

Your a sick sick man

Haha - I LOLd. 

hmmm, is it a flat /jumps/hurdler ?

can we race it in scotland ?

what if....

It runs the first race, falls at the first, has to be shot and thats a bit of a waste no? :P

How would this be a waste?
It would be the best epic fail ever!

lmao just imagine all of us cheering it for the whole first 10 secs of the race

Who is the trainer?

If he's someone I rate/trust I'm definitely in.

Barrington "gi' it the stick" Nevillicious.

Epic rub for whoever it is if you're not in.

if the camels in then count me in

if the camels out then let me check with my bank manager first

if it wins a race do i get to meet the queen?

rotflmfao


Just lay it for every race surely :)up

can we feed the horse redbull before a race?

If you get some more details,i'll be in.Had shares in a couple of donkeys before .Both were pish but we had some great days out.

Would be awesome to be invovled on the following conditions: -

Goes to a decent stable
Gets looked after after retiring
We get to name the horse

I take it that nothing came of the greyhound Barry was offering a while back?

i thought it was used to make hotdogs for the summer bbq

I'm in as long as we can call it Sir Donksalot

i prefer "flushyonlywinninghorse"

Hotdogs arent made from Greyhound meat

I'm really interested, £500 is alot, but given more info could definitely be involved.

Too many letters I'm afraid Ironside, max 18 inc spaces. Cough cough, Sir Donksalot is a quality name.

I'm guessing this is a two-year-old that's going to be trained op north? More details please. Never owned a horsey yet and a share in an early 2yo would be fun.

Ideally it would be trained a bit further south and good enough to run at Newmarket's July Course the night Spandau Ballet are in concert after racing.

Another dream is born...

must of been a burger then

Can i be the Jockey?

blonde already has a jockey according to tikay Laz used to be a jockey

no

That would be awesome.

Get it odds on fave to win a race, lay it off the boards on betfair then annouce a jockey change, from McCoy to Girgy :)

rofl.

I'm only in if Girgy is jockey

Girgy is deffo a jockey.

And you're the fella who takes pictures of him right?

Yup, guilty as charged.

£11k for a horse inc years fee's seems f cheap

or trigg

Socks lol

Lol at the idiots who think this has something to do with Barry Neville!!!!!!!




Barry Neville will hopefully be along shortly to answer your questions in full..... ;)

bump, was this just some sort of level?

Not at all.
Dont know why Barry hasn't been on.
Ill give him a nudge.

 ;booder;

Ill text him

   i didnt know stu had put this on .

the man who owns the stables is adrian swingler (get your puns in guys ) .
he owns about 20 bed shops through out england ,he bought the stables as a bit of fun .
he owns about 10 horses in ,the rest in the stable are people who have given them for training .

    the trainer is .R GUEST. ,if you go onto his website you will be able to see the horses that have not yet run yet ,unamed 2 or 3 year olds that we can pick the name of it .
if there is any one who is interested ,i sugest we all make a date to go to the stables ,one weekend when we are at dtd .
the stables are in doncaster ,it would only be 45 minutes from notts.

I live in Shef so this is fine for me.

if you want a horse that is running now ,we can have KAMES PARK ,this won a £5000 race last week .
Adrian swingler plays poker regular ,tk and a few others know him ,hes a genuine man.

i spoke to adrian swingler ,any one who has any questions regarding the horse pm me and i will give you his number.

Pedigree? Considered early 2yo or nursery prospect?

theres a chioce of a few horses ,2 year old or an unraced 3 year old.

none have been named yet .

the first 12 months stable fees are paid for for the initial 11k.

Adrian Swingler was featured on a programme where he persuaded people to invest in shares in a racehorse, then purchased the horse on his credit card. Link here to thread on Money Saving Experts, the thread is titled Repossession.

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=724841&page=4

Obviously any of you who are seriously looking into buying shares in a racehorse are obviously all smart enough to ensure you have covered all angles to ensure a. you are not ripped off and b. you are not ripped off, so I'm sure any interested parties have already done their homework here.

Owning a racehorse for even a month is not cheap by anyone's standards. Be sure you can afford any extra costs that may arise and have thought about the horse's future after 12 months - racehorses don't live in fields guys sorry.

http://www.racingpost.com/horses/owner_home.sd?owner_id=125281

were does it say his name in the horse that was bought .
plus the second one ,he doesnt have them running in his colours any more .

Hi Barry

It says his name on page 4 about half way down. Google his name and there are plenty of similar threads about him, some connecting him to poker but most connecting him to the TV programme he appeared on a couple of years ago. Did you know him then?

Couple about his furniture shop burning down in 2004 as well.

The second link wasn't about his colours, the search was the result of a search on his name as an owner.

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I can certainly confirm that I know Adrian.

oh dear. 

kames Park is currently owned by Future racing (Notts) Ltd.

Google Future racing and it immediately auto links with Richard Guest but haven't found a mention of furniture salesman Adrian in connection with them.

Future Racings stats on Racing Posts are here - http://www.racingpost.com/horses/owner_home.sd?owner_id=178851

kames Park is listed for sale on Richard Guest's website - http://www.richardguest.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=48&Itemid=67

Still can't see Adrian's name. However I'm not great at finding things on the net, I'm sure there are some internet whizzes out there who know how to dig stuff out. I'm just pointing out the obvious stuff in the public domain.

Just for my own personal entertainment, on one site Adrian was described as a Davro lookalike and having a small nob. Should point out here I don't know this man and don't have any axe to grind, just found that amusing. I mean who on earth would imagine Bobby davro has a big nob anyway?

ACC to wiki Davro has quite a big nob.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Davro (personal bit)

Your link is broken. Correct link here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Davro (really may have a small nob)

Several incoming PM's this evening suggesting it would be wise to urge caution on this - but I'm sure you all know that anyway, particularly if you have any knowledge or experience of syndicated rasehorse ownership.

"If in doubt, speak to anyone in the industry who is well connected", was the advice being generally dispensed, & that sort of makes sense - a Poker Forum is not the place to buy or sell syndicated racehorses.

However, I don't imagine any of you were seriously contemplating it.

This is no reflection on Adrian Swingler, either.

I'm out.

GL guys.

The Camel nails it iin one.

Buying a horse is probably a bit pie in the sky.

Vets fees, entries, travelling costs, jockeys fees etc etc  mount up something rotten.

But buying a forum greyhound might be a goer, anyone like that idea?

most def

can girgy still be jockey?

this thread had me in stitches, mouth is my new favourite poster.
Fwiw i dont wanna be one of those annoying nobs at racing who claim to "own" a horse, when on closer inspection its colours are white with black spots.

Im still up for that!

I wrote a reference like that once.... "I would waste no time in employing this man."

Who do I ship £500 too  ::)

I just wanted to go to festivals and get drunk. I guess I can do that without a dodgy trainer. Would be good getting into something though, greyhound sounds super fun and I love betting on them too. gogogogo someone sort this. ktb.

let's do this anyway, cheltenham festival meet up any1?

me and some mates getting a camper van out for thursday and gold cup day.

Nah that's you getting confused with your Oedipus Complex - I'm still waiting to see the pictures of the Oz granny you diddled.

im waiting for my mates to upload the photos, none of this cougar you mention, but there are some nice ones of us visiting margeret river wineries in a copter :)
even in my drunken state i was way too shrewd to let her get snapped.

yes to buying a greyhound or two - definitely count me in for that.

Thread delivers ;)

I think everyone should just go ahead and buy the horse as planned.

I mean if this Adrian Swingler dude tried anything on Barry would definitely hunt him down, (tell him about the dilemma he is currently having with his next door neighbours that are devaluing the price of his house by their presence) and then obv bash the guy about a bit.

Adrian is the next door neighbour. He says it's Barry devaluing his house.

lol. The Nevilicious one is a legend.

someone who can sort it out start a new greyhound thread. ktb.

i think you lot are being a bit unfair to adrian here ,most of you dont know him .
he was talking to me the other day at dtd ,and i just mentioned that a friend of mine wouldnt mind owning a horse (sindicated},he told me that richard guest had a few horses for sale .the rest you know about .
as for coming on here and slating him off when he isnt here to defend himself.
i know many men who owe millions through bisunes but have assets in other peoples names .
adrian is a man who i have seen lend thousands to people when we was in vegas a few years ago .
he was just pointing us in the right direction ,the was nothing to do with him ,it was  going to be bought off richad guest.

Suggesting people get involved with Mr Richard Guest, as innocently as Adrian will have intended it, hardly counts as "pointing people in the right direction".

i cant see what the problem was ,a fair bit of slander in my eyes.

of whom? There is a fair amount of linked and documented evidence here that innocent people should do a lot of research before getting involved with the principals here

Barry, although the name Adrian Swingler rings a bell, I don't actually know who it is.

I do know if I was buying a horse Richard Guest would be among the last 3 trainers I would choose to send it to.

Keith - I know F all about racing etc - who wouldnt you mind sending it too?

Anyone around the midlands that is reasonable?

all i was doing from the start was relaying a message to buy a horse ,why do you think i didnt post it .
because i am not bothered about owning a horse.

i just think it a bit unfair when people know so little about adrian .

My initial reservations, & those of most who PM'd me, were centred entirely on Richard Guest's reputation.

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It's actually libel Barry if you're hoping to take these posters to court for casting dispertions against your's or either of the aforementioned plaintiff's characters.

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It's actually asperions not dispertions. And libel/slander are two of the hardest things to prove in a court of law. To sue for either you have to prove you have damaged that person's good character.

BTW who actually said anything damaging about Adrian? I didn't see anything derogatory, just a few links to interesting articles.

Why would you see it as slander barry? If you know he's a good guy that's all that matters surely?

wtf ,this is hilarious.

Neil,

I like this guy alot:

http://www.jamesgivenracing.com/

Shouldn't be too expensive, very good judge of a horse (runs them in the right races), is a qualified vet (so should cut down on vets fees), was a pupil of the master - Mark Johnston and is supposed to be very good with owners.

I reckon you'd have alot of fun with a horse with him.

cheers

rotflmfao

Hi Adrian here, Barry keeps asking me to post on here,

First of all Barry asked me how much a racehorse would cost, I said with the contacts I have I could sort him out a very good deal.

It is very difficult to make money out of horses, I know most trainers, jockeys, breeders etc there is only a handful that are successful

my experience of racing is one of falling in love with the sport, getting ripped off by many people in it, and costing me a lot of money.

Mistakes? hey but if you have some intelegance you should learn by them.

The package which Richard Guest/Future Racing was offering does not make them or me money, training fees are more than that
but if you have a lot of unsold or company owned horses any income is better than none, also getting new people involved in a
stables is good for the stables and for racing.

Kames Park is currently trained for free, but I give them the prize money for its upkeep, won £2000 tonight, £5000 last week
offered Barry that on the same £11k deal, could win its next 3, could never win again that's racing.
I have learnt that I can still have fun and enjoy racing without it costing me £200K a year, if that makes me a want to be racehorse
owner who does not have horses run in his own colours. I honestly am not bothered.

As for Richard Guest, yes he has a bad reputation but when I set him on at Pinewood Racing after hearing his story I believed he
deserved another chance and gave him it, I also have horses with other trainers some of whom I have more success with.

This was just a one off deal offered to Barry, if anyone would like to visit the stables etc then Barry can arrange that, I am mot
interested I get enough hassle at poker matches about the way I play without getting abuse about people betting on three
legged racehorses.

Adrian

Hi Adrian

Are you related to the Adrian Swingler who was groundsman at Catterick racecourse?

No,
not at all, it is a rare name but no relation.

I do agree with Tk that this is not the place to buy a racehorse and I would only
recommend buying one to people who have money to burn.

It is a bit like the ups and downs of poker, the best thing is the early evening
meetings in summer at Ripon, Thirsk, etc.

It is a great lifestyle when you are having results, but it is 1000 times worse when
nothing goe's right and everone at the stables is suicidal.

Sorry mate, I didn't see you over there winning majors.