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I'm not a big fan of playing AAxx too strongly pre-flop. Although I usually stick in a small raise with it as I like to be able to bet a decent amount on the flop if I hit my trips.

What would you do here?

PokerStars Game #3338958284:  Omaha Pot Limit ($1/$2) - 2005/12/15 - 04:59:31 (ET)
Table 'Fechtig' Seat #8 is the button
Seat 2: rgrappone ($164.65 in chips)
Seat 3: snookums69 ($92.40 in chips)
Seat 4: tigmong ($189 in chips)
Seat 5: TJ_KGB ($127 in chips)
Seat 6: cherio ($143 in chips)
Seat 7: jp386 ($148 in chips)
Seat 8: MR.PINKxx ($255 in chips)
Seat 9: gank ($194.60 in chips)
gank: posts small blind $1
rgrappone: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tigmong [As Ah Kd 7s]
snookums69: folds
TJ_KGB said, "watchj"
tigmong: raises $4 to $6
TJ_KGB: raises $15 to $21
cherio: calls $21
jp386: folds
MR.PINKxx: folds
gank: folds
rgrappone: folds
TJ_KGB said, "pop me back"

Call and see the flop.

all in

you want to get AAxx heads up so you should get rid of cheerio

also your AA is single suited and it also has a king so isnt just a plain old AAxx with unsuited rags

get it in heads up and 99% of the time your going to be favourite

I would call and see a flop.

I presume the other players were not THAT good? My reason for saying this, is with so many raises, I would assume them to have big cards, probably both of your aces.

The best thing u could hope for would be the spade flush.

What happened??

I re-raised, not my usual play here but thought I'd give it a shot.

PokerStars Game #3338958284:  Omaha Pot Limit ($1/$2) - 2005/12/15 - 04:59:31 (ET)
Table 'Fechtig' Seat #8 is the button
Seat 2: rgrappone ($164.65 in chips)
Seat 3: snookums69 ($92.40 in chips)
Seat 4: tigmong ($189 in chips)
Seat 5: TJ_KGB ($127 in chips)
Seat 6: cherio ($143 in chips)
Seat 7: jp386 ($148 in chips)
Seat 8: MR.PINKxx ($255 in chips)
Seat 9: gank ($194.60 in chips)
gank: posts small blind $1
rgrappone: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tigmong [As Ah Kd 7s]
snookums69: folds
TJ_KGB said, "watchj"
tigmong: raises $4 to $6
TJ_KGB: raises $15 to $21
cherio: calls $21
jp386: folds
MR.PINKxx: folds
gank: folds
rgrappone: folds
TJ_KGB said, "pop me back"
tigmong: raises $66 to $87
TJ_KGB: raises $40 to $127 and is all-in
cherio: calls $106
TJ_KGB said, "lol i diddnt think he would"
tigmong: calls $40
*** FLOP *** [5s 3d 4h]
TJ_KGB said, "i lost"
tigmong: bets $62 and is all-in
cherio: calls $16 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [5s 3d 4h] [5d]
*** RIVER *** [5s 3d 4h 5d] [3c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tigmong: shows [As Ah Kd 7s] (two pair, Aces and Fives)
cherio: mucks hand
tigmong collected $32 from side pot
TJ_KGB: mucks hand
tigmong collected $381 from main pot
whoisyadaddy has returned
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $416 Main pot $381. Side pot $32. | Rake $3
Board [5s 3d 4h 5d 3c]
Seat 2: rgrappone (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: snookums69 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: tigmong showed [As Ah Kd 7s] and won ($413) with two pair, Aces and Fives
Seat 5: TJ_KGB mucked [Ts Tc Qh Qs]
Seat 6: cherio mucked [Ac 4s Js 9c]
Seat 7: jp386 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: MR.PINKxx (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: gank (small blind) folded before Flop

n1 Tank

well if i had known cheerio was a fish likely to call with rags i might have thought twice about the reraise but i still think the reraies was the play with aces you really want to be getting the money in when you know your in frontrather than waiting for a flop them wondering if your behind to 2 pair or a set or even facing a wrap round and and flush draw
basically the only flop you mihgt like is if an ace hits with 2 unconecting off suit cards

so get it in while your confidant your ahead

In my experience at this level the re-raise just "spells out AAxx" and they will allstill call!
In my opinion on that flop you were lucky nobody had played the low cards but nice one all the same.

I agree with tractor - n1, but lucky!!

Here is how to play AAxx :

Goto http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=4526.0

m3 you forgot to tell us the board cards

bloody hell Iron!! U are quick!!!

I noticed it didnt copy n paste correctly and have now changed it just to point to the origional thread

Flops like that are why it can be worthwhile playing hands such as  5s 6s 7h 8h in a raised pot.

yep but its not worth getting all the chips in preflop with 5s 6s 7h 8h as you dont get the implied odds you need

No, no, of course not. But it's a hand I'd rather play than aces, you'll tend to know exactly where you stand post flop.

Incidentally, Ironside, can we have another online Omaha tournament, possibly Hi/Lo this time?

there is an omaha event planed for the 28th of december more details as soon as i get confirmation for the sites involved

i will arange a hi/lo comp in the new year

Hurrah!  :cheers:

Cheers for the link M3boy


My rule of thumb is I only re-raise with AAxx type hands if..

1/The raise would be large enough to get 70% of mine, or all my potential opponents, stack in before the flop.

AND

2/My AAxx has to contain at least one suited ace.

i agree with rule 1 i dont with rule 2

my rule 2 is only if i feel i can get the hand HU as the value of AA goes rapidly downwards when you are playing more than 1 oppo so rapid that it becomes a -ev play

Good idea, I might make that rule 3

AA 92 4suited is still a winner v most of the best none AA hands and therefore its still a +ev play to get in all in preflop

the few times you are a slight dog there is already too many chips in the pot by the time you work that out to make folding a +ev play so again you have to get the chips in