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Hands like these I feel I need a bit of work on. Never know the best line to take or if I'm playing explotably etc. Should I ever fold turn? Just general line thoughts appreciated.

Full Tilt Poker Game #18618990581: Table Accelerator (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 11:01:00 ET - 2010/02/20
Seat 1: BadtheBeater ($189.70)
Seat 2: GALENTO2 ($15.55)
Seat 3: Frojigy ($46.55)
Seat 4: StupidMutt ($26.80)
Seat 5: my8106 ($55.45)
Seat 6: GreekStein ($238.20)
BadtheBeater posts the small blind of $0.25
GALENTO2 posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to GreekStein [3h 3s 5h 5c]
Frojigy has 8 seconds left to act
Frojigy calls $0.50
StupidMutt folds
my8106 raises to $2.25
GreekStein has 15 seconds left to act
GreekStein calls $2.25
BadtheBeater folds
GALENTO2 folds
Frojigy calls $1.75
*** FLOP *** [5d Qd Ac]
Frojigy checks
my8106 bets $5
GreekStein calls $5
Frojigy folds
*** TURN *** [5d Qd Ac] [Qc]
my8106 bets $11.50
GreekStein calls $11.50
*** RIVER *** [5d Qd Ac Qc] [2d]
my8106 bets $36.70, and is all in
GreekStein has 15 seconds left to act
GreekStein folds
Uncalled bet of $36.70 returned to my8106
my8106 mucks
my8106 wins the pot ($38.50)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $40.50 | Rake $2
Board: [5d Qd Ac Qc 2d]
Seat 1: BadtheBeater (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: GALENTO2 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: Frojigy folded on the Flop
Seat 4: StupidMutt didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: my8106 collected ($38.50), mucked
Seat 6: GreekStein (button) folded on the River

as played perfect imo

my life pretty much complete. ty

fold pre fish

Level? If not...

Pls elaborate. Advice only helpful with with a reason imo!

You're the reason the good upstanding members of this community like Tom 'Red-Dog' McCready don't post on here.

It actually probably is a fold pre because u are nearly always guaranteed to be 3 way minimum and the hand plays far better headsup in 3 or 4 bet pot than 3/4 way in raised pots. I dont mind min 3 betting pre.

I hate these small pair type hands. If opponent wants to get a chunk of money in on a non-drawy board your almost always set over setted, when you call on the turn what hand do you think your beating?

Qx with flush draws. Random attempts to rep AA now the board has paired.

Obviously I'm not happy about it but felt I had to call this street and pass the river but expected him to give up with any hand that didn't have me beat.

wtf fold pre lolsolsols

Sorry I thought the thread was a level

Elaboration.....

What are you hoping to play with this type of hand? are you calling a raise to flop nut straight, straight flush, quads? you hit trips and you never know where you are and your trips are so low they can't be played hard.  I the classic type of hand where you win small or lose big and I will more often than not fold pre to a raise - I don't mind a 4 bet but I hate the call pre.

Going back to your original question - no, now that you are in the hand you played it perfect!!

he has position aswell, so in 50plo rush games im fairly f sure the play will b extremely straight forward and therefore Greeky is deffo gd enough to win the pot even when he doesnt "flop the nuts"!!!! fold pre lols

Pre is a fold if you are teaching people how to play omaha. I dont really see how this is a debatable.

And the smaller the stakes the MORE it becomes a fold pre.

Calling or 3betting is better in a 25-50 plo game than it is in a 0.25-0.50

I understand your conjecture but Cos's title suggests he's not the best in these spots and I guess the best way to get better in these spots is to play them like he did but why make a simple game difficult, just avoid getting yourself into these spots in the first place, it's less headache.

Thanks for the input guys.

Still interested to hear more opinions on it as got 3 guys commenting on the thread who I know are all f good at PLO with contrasting views. I'd feel kind of dirty laying down a pair and another pair before the flop lol.

If this is the case he should be calling with any four cards.

3355 is a pretty shit hand even when it hits if it comes up against resistance.

Greeky will need to be good to win this pot because he's gonna flop the nuts like 1 time in a thousand. A fair portion of those nuts (A, 2, 4 and 2, 4, 6combos) are far from beatable by the river as well.

I agree with Bam. If you hit a set you probably only get major action from a bigger set. If you're lucky you end up in a 50 50 against a big draw.

Just lay down pre or 3 bet pre with the aim of outplaying oppo in a HU pot down the streets.

This hand is a perfect example of why not to play 3355. You flop a set and end up having to play it passive hoping for the cheapest possible showdown. Even when the river brings a flush so there's something out there you could beat you still have to lay it down. You might as well have held 2 7 9 K rainbow because all you were ever going to do was end up bluffing and hoping that your oppo passed.

Challenge is on imo.

Next blonde bash me and Toby vs you and Pieman.

3 heats.

One drinking where you old men will prob win.

One contest of youngness. Think Me and Toby combined are younger than each of you so that's a lock.

1-1 settle with a PLO battle.

Can we have a "who's shagged the most strippers" tie breaker please?

pass pre flop.

For as many dimes as you want greeky, please can you and toby keep calling with 3355 though?

I would raise the flop

Only with video evidence.

I muck this hand pre-flop nine times out of ten, and the one time that I do play it I usually wish that I had mucked.

Deffo this. Although Cos plays the hand fine here. People never 3-barrel bluff <PLO200 imo generally.

^^^^^ lets do this greeky, gl all that fold 3355 pre wp gg gn

lol at this, sigh at no vid evidence

Who said there's no video evidence?

They let me sit in the corner once :)

I didn't say that I would always fold it. I definitely wouldn't call it and risk being 3 or 4 way.

Fold sometimes and raise sometimes depending on who's opened.

im just starting to play the plo25 games on tilt, how many buyins would you say is needed? Im just four tabling at the mo, any tips for guys that play this limit? Any advice on playing decent rundown hands oop against reg/multitablers who button raise? How tight are u guys opening utg etc? thanks