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The fact that I'm posting this at 6pm suggests this didn't go well but I'm sure we can look past the results oriented part of this :)

DTD £100 f/o. 10k chips, 30 min clockl.

level 5 - 100/200-25

Villain (young aggro player, playing 15-20k) raises to 550.
Hero (playing 12k) calls on button with  Jd Td
Both blinds (passive) call

Flop:  Qd Jc 4d

Checks to hero who bets 1350
SB raises to 4000 (playing about 20k )
BB ships it in for about 12k
Hero.... argh?

I was all ready to ship it in against the SB but should the BBs involvement make me a bit more wary here?

fold.

Prob up against a set/2 pair and a draw.

No point in playing this hand if you don't go with this flop

30min clock


this hand

this pot size

[ ] folding

call it.

IMO should only be getting it in if you are the one jamming, not calling off, obv you have no fold equity now as they have jammed.

Also in a 3 way all in your are more than likely drawn dead lol could be against a set/2 pair and KQdd/Axdd

sorry midread board KQdd obv not possible, but you know what i mean

it's likely you're drawing dead here. pls fold

Pretty much what I said above. Surprised Dr Horneris and Dr Martin want to get it in here.

meh you could fold.

Its an insane price though as you have an open ended backdoor straight flush/royal flush draw along with a backdoor quads draw and a backdoor full house draw.

This was pretty much my thought process, mainly the 30 min clock aspect and still ~180 runners to go. One thing not mentioned also is that the blinds had now hit 150/300-25 as the hand started. I reckon you need to get your stack going quickly in this thing and the chance to be up to 35-40k seemed quite appealing in this comp as opposed to being left with 10k. I think if I have more chips I prob fold. Also, if the comp has a longer clock I prob fold as i'm not gonna be pressured by the blinds quite so soon as I would be in this comp.

We're playing a 4 way pot with reads though. We called to play a pot in position against someone with a wide range, yes we've binked a flop but if there are two passive players who want to start shovelling money in then we still have to assess our hand against their range and against described villains I think we are crushed and i'd fold here.

3 bet pre against aggro opener when you're on the button with a hand like this.

This probably gets the pot heads up then you're never going anywhere you hit this flop.

2 other players both showing a lot of interest means you're often drawing dead if it ends up 3 way all in.

Got to fold as played.

The effect of the blinds going up and the structure of donkaments is majorly overrated by a lot of people imo. Much better concentrating on what is the correct play for each hand than wafty notions of having to get hold of chips.

Esp live when there are tons of donks who take pleasure in playing straight up, so many chances to win easy chips if we just fold this imo.

The world is not enough.

A+ response

;applause; ;applause;

sigh muck em Charles

Checking the flop is an option as well. Since you have the fd to go with it you don't have to be that scared of being outdrawn, and by checking you add deceptiveness and have pot control.