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Title: Sachin
Post by: TheChipPrince on February 24, 2010, 12:47:20 PM
Awesome.  Just broke the WR for 1 day innings, not against some 2nd rate nation either.

Currently 199 n.o.


Title: Re: Sachin
Post by: TheChipPrince on February 24, 2010, 12:58:13 PM
Finished 200 n.o.

Could be some chase with SA needing 401...


Title: Re: Sachin
Post by: henrik777 on February 24, 2010, 01:02:06 PM
The best player in the last 20 years.

Sandy


Title: Re: Sachin
Post by: TightEnd on February 24, 2010, 01:07:05 PM
Wonderful stuff.

2nd all time for me, to Bradman. Not that one ever saw Bradman, but the record speaks for itself


Title: Re: Sachin
Post by: TheChipPrince on February 24, 2010, 01:08:39 PM
Wonderful stuff.

2nd all time for me, to Bradman. Not that one ever saw Bradman, but the record speaks for itself

More daunting for a bowler to see him strolling out?  Or a batsmen seeing Warne handing his cap to the umpire?


Title: Re: Sachin
Post by: sweet potata! on February 24, 2010, 01:10:53 PM
Wonderful stuff.

2nd all time for me, to Bradman. Not that one ever saw Bradman, but the record speaks for itself

Has to have the sickest stats ever, its really incred how good this guy must have been.


Title: Re: Sachin
Post by: TightEnd on February 24, 2010, 01:13:21 PM
Wonderful stuff.

2nd all time for me, to Bradman. Not that one ever saw Bradman, but the record speaks for itself

More daunting for a bowler to see him strolling out?  Or a batsmen seeing Warne handing his cap to the umpire?


Tendulkar I think

Been incredibly lucky last 15 years...Tendulkar, Warne, Lara...at the very minimum ( maybe for example add McGrath, Ponting, Walsh, Muralitharan etc) three all time greats


Title: Re: Sachin
Post by: GreekStein on February 24, 2010, 01:20:02 PM
Wonderful stuff.

2nd all time for me, to Bradman. Not that one ever saw Bradman, but the record speaks for itself

More daunting for a bowler to see him strolling out?  Or a batsmen seeing Warne handing his cap to the umpire?


Tendulkar I think

Been incredibly lucky last 15 years...Tendulkar, Warne, Lara...at the very minimum ( maybe for example add McGrath, Ponting, Walsh, Muralitharan etc) three all time greats

Warne edges it for me.


Title: Re: Sachin
Post by: henrik777 on February 24, 2010, 01:29:57 PM
Wonderful stuff.

2nd all time for me, to Bradman. Not that one ever saw Bradman, but the record speaks for itself

More daunting for a bowler to see him strolling out?  Or a batsmen seeing Warne handing his cap to the umpire?


Tendulkar I think

Been incredibly lucky last 15 years...Tendulkar, Warne, Lara...at the very minimum ( maybe for example add McGrath, Ponting, Walsh, Muralitharan etc) three all time greats

Walsh was part of a pair who had no back up so was going to get lots of wickets. Richard Hadlee had stats better they they would be if he played in a good team much the same as Murali. Malcolm Marshall was the best quickie i've seen but he played with too many good bowlers to take the volume of wickets these guys did. This does back up Warne and McGrath as greats but not Murali.

Tendulkar is way ahead of Lara given his odi record on top of the test stats. IMO. Ponting is not too far behind.

Sandy


Title: Re: Sachin
Post by: Woodsey on February 24, 2010, 02:38:38 PM
As much as it pains me to say it I think Ponting is on a par with Tendulkar, but they are obviously both exceptional players. We've been pretty blessed with all time greats in recent years.


Title: Re: Sachin
Post by: Woodsey on February 24, 2010, 02:41:13 PM
In fact I've just checked their averages and they are identical which confirms it for me.


Title: Re: Sachin
Post by: 77dave on February 24, 2010, 03:19:48 PM
In fact I've just checked their averages and they are identical which confirms it for me.

Plus Ponting is one of the few who has been able to maintain his stats while captaining his country

Lara, Tendulkar and others all tried and failed


Title: Re: Sachin
Post by: The Baron on February 24, 2010, 11:13:52 PM
I think Lara to an extent is a victim of being in such a bad side at times.

Tendulkar is still the best batsman I've ever seen though.


Title: Re: Sachin
Post by: AndrewT on February 24, 2010, 11:38:02 PM
In fact I've just checked their averages and they are identical which confirms it for me.

Averages aren't everything.

Over the past ten years batsmen have been on top, meaning plenty of players have averages over 45 and even 50. Batting's been easier.

Michael Atherton's average was only 37.69. Ricky Ponting didn't have to play most of his Test career facing Ambrose, Walsh, McGrath, Donald, Pollock, Wasim, Waqar, plus Warne, Murali and Kumble.


Title: Re: Sachin
Post by: Girgy85 on February 24, 2010, 11:50:46 PM
In fact I've just checked their averages and they are identical which confirms it for me.

Averages aren't everything.

Over the past ten years batsmen have been on top, meaning plenty of players have averages over 45 and even 50. Batting's been easier.

Michael Atherton's average was only 37.69. Ricky Ponting didn't have to play most of his Test career facing Ambrose, Walsh, McGrath, Donald, Pollock, Wasim, Waqar, plus Warne, Murali and Kumble.

Michael Atherton was Dump!!


Title: Re: Sachin
Post by: GreekStein on February 24, 2010, 11:53:36 PM
In fact I've just checked their averages and they are identical which confirms it for me.

Averages aren't everything.

Over the past ten years batsmen have been on top, meaning plenty of players have averages over 45 and even 50. Batting's been easier.

Michael Atherton's average was only 37.69. Ricky Ponting didn't have to play most of his Test career facing Ambrose, Walsh, McGrath, Donald, Pollock, Wasim, Waqar, plus Warne, Murali and Kumble.

Michael Atherton was Dump!!

i wouldn't say that but i wouldnt put him in the same bracket as the other players that have been mentioned.


Title: Re: Sachin
Post by: Longy on February 25, 2010, 08:12:40 AM
In fact I've just checked their averages and they are identical which confirms it for me.

Averages aren't everything.

Over the past ten years batsmen have been on top, meaning plenty of players have averages over 45 and even 50. Batting's been easier.

Michael Atherton's average was only 37.69. Ricky Ponting didn't have to play most of his Test career facing Ambrose, Walsh, McGrath, Donald, Pollock, Wasim, Waqar, plus Warne, Murali and Kumble.

I understand your point but comparing Ponting to Atherton is well just lol. Ponting deffo has played a lot against Pollock, Murali and Kumble. His test debut was in 95' which is only 4 or 5 years after Lara and Sachin the 3 are deffo comparable.

For me I would have the 4 best batsman of the last 20 years as Sachin, Lara, Ponting, Kallis and then the rest in that order. If I wanted someone to save a test match for me, you could almost reverse that order but with Ponting first (throw Steve Waugh in as well).