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I started a thread on here at the start of last season about a referee getting the opportunity to change his decision after a red card was appealed then standing by his decision when almost all of Scotland thought he was wrong. Same again here after Dougie McDonald decided to stand by his decision to red card Scott Brown in Sunday's old firm game. Celtic are fully justified in complaining about this one, don't think there were many people expecting the red card to stand after appeal.
Both Brown and Lafferty warranted a yellow from the incident but nothing else, mind you I'd have no complaints if Lafferty got a retrospective red with a very very very long ban!!

No surprise from me, the corrption goes on in Scotland.

tbh I am surprised you are surprised. The SFA were never going to overturn that decision.

PS Just for the avoidance of doubt, can I point out I complain about Scottish referees when Celtic are winning too  :)

is Lafferty the biggest fanny in the world?

Probably not but he sure comes close!!

He'd be a cinch for biggest wankers XI.

Shocking decision not to overturn though, but if it's the same ref again (which I hadn't realised) then says a lot about him.

Surely this is where Hugh Dallas should be getting involved, taking the guy aside, and asking him to look at his style, and questioning why he still stands by both decisions? If the answers are not satisfactory, and it's hard to see how they could be, then he should be demoted shouldn't he?

Dallas is an ex-ref, they are never going to question one of his own!

Its filth in scotland, and always will be.

An interesting piece in the Racing Post today.

In the last 13 years of Old Firm games Celtic have had 134 yellow cards against them, Rangers 135. Celtic red cards were 11 and Rangers 10.

Dallas was in the meeting with him when he reviewed it, Dallas is part of the problem.

I honestly thought Rangers would get a few ropey decisions against them today as the League is over but it seems not

http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=33ju1ba&s=6

Answers on a postcard for what the ref gives here

A. a penalty to St Mirren and a Red Card for the statesman of Scottish Football
B. a free kick and Red Card to the above
C. a free kick and not even a word to the defender who stops a goal scoring oppurtunity
D. a penalty to Rangers

Have you got a link for the article? All it really says is that they've had almost the same amount of cards not whether they were warranted or not eg Brown shouldn't have been off at the weekend and Bougherra should.

lol

Weir has been doing that all season and getting away with it.

It should be B, was probably C but would have been D if there was anything to play for.

Yeah would be very interesting to see when these Red cards happened, seem to remember a few Rangers Reds against us when we were a couple of goals ahead and Celtic Reds when the games were tight.

I dont I'm afraid, was by Kevin  Pullein if you can find it online.

Good post .Celtic getting a bit boring now.

At leasst one Rangers fan ain't scared to tell it like it is.

St Mirren manager after todays game...

Gus MacPherson

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...en/8553720.stm

"We watch games, we go to games and we see clips on the BBC and we see a different set of rules getting applied. None more so than when we're coming here (to Ibrox).

I wasn't at the game yesterday and other than the goals I have only seen the clip posted. I have not yet looked at a paper today either so don't actually know the answer.

I am guessing the answer is C and to be honest I'd be disappointed if it was anything other, I would maybe take a yellow without moaning too much right enough. I would say the same if it was a Celtic defender making the same challenge on a Rangers forward. This is a centre half and a centre forward engaged in a physical contest, this sort of thing goes on all the time, a red for this would be a complete joke in my opinion.

You are correct it was C but you clearly don't even know the rules of Football.

This was given offside today

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Farce.

Lovin the homemade Sky graphic though  :D

loving the Hunline on 1690 lol

I was totally bemused when thisss decision was made today, Standard with SPL tho

Yeah, I may know next to feck all about what the rule book says but I did play centre half for a number of years though and would be proper seething if I'd got a red for that!!

And I thought Celtic fans would have you believe the real hunline number is 0141 616 6000.

Seriously though, it is a little more classy to moan about a decision when you are 2-0 up with 4 mins to go in a meaningless end of season game so well done on that front.

If you don;t know thew rules, then you don;t know the rules, playing centre half makes no differnce to that. In today's game, that is a sending off.

LOL rules shmools ... he isn't the last defender, there were 2, yes TWO covering defenders.

never in a million years is that a red card !

No such rule - 'denying a clear goalscoring opportunity' which is what that was.

I don't think Kev said it was a rule. He's pointing out that if there were 2 covering defenders it wasn't a clear goalscoring opportunity.

I don't agree that there were but the fact that "last man" or "last defender" aren't mentioned in the rule book it doesn't mean you just discard them.

Ever heard of the word paranoid?

I don't agree there were covering defenders either, especially as he's hauled down during the act of shooting, surely if he's shooting, with an unobstructed view of the goal, then it's a goalscoring opportunity?

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I don't think everybodyt is against us.

I KNOW everyone is, that's not paranoia.

I'm not a Celtic fan, so why you'd post that after my last post I have no idea?

I didn't post it in response to anyone's post to be honest Mr Shaft, more at the subject in general ;)

Exactly

I do laugh at the number of guys who don't even have a basic grasp of the rules. Just because you don't like a rule doesn't mean its not a rule!

He wasn't even booked btw.

I think its certainly worth discussing although I can understand why outsiders would consider it paranoia or boring but its been going on for so long up here its just accepted. Lets just say its a cultural thing in Scotland.

There was a huge fuss created a couple of years ago when we were awarded a debatable free kick 30 yards out against St Mirren ffs nevermind red cards or penaly kicks or goals disallowed for next to nothing.

Steph, I am only taking the piss ... discuss away obv, but expect some plum to poke his nose in somewhere along the way ;)

Just be thankfull that Cos doesn't read this board much, he would obviously know someone who knows someone that's sister's uncles boyfriends next door neighbours nephew had offered a bung to a ref ;)

Have you ever heard of "The each way stealing  Money Thread"?

Dougie Mac gives Rangers another 2 pens today that are a total joke.

The paranoia continues  ::)

Not sure what happened to my previous post, but as someone else said today in relation to the Rangers game "It's like watching Robert Mugabe win an election."

lol missed this the first time round

It was on KDS, very funny I thought  :D

Have I missed some handbags earlier? I hate it when that happens! I know Snowballs been banned/coolered but thats it.

He text me askin me to PM Tighty to find out why, and for how long, but Tighty hasn't replied to me yet.

From experience, you usually get a reason and a length of ban mention why you try to log in, but Snowball had nothing.

Well you would know!

Hence the From experience part lol

Also did anyone watch the Man City game today, Gareth Barry head butt was so much worse than Scott Brown's.

1 Guess what colour the card was he was shown.......thats right, Yellow!

The proof is in the Pudding guys.

Sigh!! When I saw this thread bumped I assumed it would be someone questioning how the Dundee Utd goalie wasn't red carded!!

and why would that have happened. ?

When even a Hun journalist starts to question this particular ref, you have top wonder...http://timesonline.typepad.com/thegame/2010/03/scottish-referee-in-danger-of-looking-biased-towards-rangers-.html

He's got a point - if it was a penalty the keeper should have walked. MacDonald got nothing right in it at all

And Fatshaft, while Speirs admits to being a Rangers fan as a kid, he's far from being a press poodle like the rest of them, he regularly asks some of the awkward questions about Rangers - which has led to some vitriolic attacks from the rest of the pack.