Title: deepstack tournament- just unlucky? Post by: OESFD on March 07, 2010, 03:35:42 AM hi all, I know it's just unlucky but wanted opinions on whether pre-flop I played this wrong..
playing £55 f/o, 45 min clock, deepstack (10k starting stack) student tourny at g casino. 68 runners, 2 day event. down to last 30. I've just moved tables and played 3 hands, winning 2 (pf raise) and folding one to a cb re-raise. table mostly TAG's. Blinds 200/400 (25), level 6. UTG+1 raises to 1300 UTG+ 2 calls me: Ts Th sb: call bb: call I call because at this stage I'm not prepared to call the all in if UTG+1/2 decides to push. bad play? raise to 4k? anyway flops comes: Ahrt Td 5d happy days, goes check check, I bet 2300 (thoughts on size) sb fold, bb thinks for a minute then ships (50BB!+). Fold, fold, insta (all in) call from me (I have around 16k)..he has Jd Qd and hits 6d on turn. I know its unlucky but a) should I have re-popped pf b) bet size on flop? c) his ship is bad play on his part right? any thoughts would be greatly appreciated Title: Re: deepstack tournament- just unlucky? Post by: pleno1 on March 07, 2010, 03:40:35 AM your stack?
your position? Title: Re: deepstack tournament- just unlucky? Post by: OESFD on March 07, 2010, 03:45:38 AM i have 16-17k, middle position, i've got average(ish) chipstack
Title: Re: deepstack tournament- just unlucky? Post by: the rage on March 07, 2010, 12:22:32 PM personally, i would have bet a bit more on the flop, but it didn't make any differrence because they were all going in anyway. just unlucky imo.
Title: Re: deepstack tournament- just unlucky? Post by: Longy on March 07, 2010, 12:29:07 PM I would just ship preflop, there is already about 3.5k in the middle after the raise and the flat. Meaning any 3bet commits us to the hand anyway. This is all assuming utg+1 isn't an uber nit.
Title: Re: deepstack tournament- just unlucky? Post by: thetank on March 07, 2010, 01:32:20 PM His flop ship >> your flop bet.
5 handed + reasonably wet board should not mean we bet a third of the pot. The only advantage is that it under reps your hand which is great if your opponent happens to be thinking above level 1 but not beyond level 2. However, if he's thinking above level 0 but not beyond level 1 then we're overrepping our hand. Betting is cool, but bet for a decent amount. 6.5k in the middle, I'd be looking to get in 4-6K. His flop ship is fine given that there's a bunch of wonga in the pot and it makes all hands except set and AT fold. If called he's massively behind nothing. As said above though, hand plays out exactly the same whatever you bet on flop. (3 betting pre ftw!!) Title: Re: deepstack tournament- just unlucky? Post by: Moskvich on March 07, 2010, 06:11:49 PM Quote However, if he's thinking above level 0 but not beyond level 1 then we're overrepping our hand. Is it possible to rep anything to someone who's thinking at Level 1 - that's what Level 1 means innit? How can we overrep a set of 10s in any case? Title: Re: deepstack tournament- just unlucky? Post by: thetank on March 07, 2010, 06:22:35 PM That sentence was meant to be somewhat incredulous, the point being we should play abc against 4 students which on the flop here means a decent sized bet.
Title: Re: deepstack tournament- just unlucky? Post by: Moskvich on March 07, 2010, 07:20:51 PM Ah, ok, yep.
Title: Re: deepstack tournament- just unlucky? Post by: piestack on March 07, 2010, 08:07:49 PM i would bet more on flop (4.5k i guess) so you can shove turn for < psb when called
Title: Re: deepstack tournament- just unlucky? Post by: doubleup on March 07, 2010, 08:47:47 PM I would just ship preflop, there is already about 3.5k in the middle after the raise and the flat. Meaning any 3bet commits us to the hand anyway. This is all assuming utg+1 isn't an uber nit. 40bbs? 4x thepot? bit extreme surely Title: Re: deepstack tournament- just unlucky? Post by: George2Loose on March 07, 2010, 09:08:54 PM I'd 3 bet pre and fold to a 4 bet if villian who's opened re raises. Cooler as played
Title: Re: deepstack tournament- just unlucky? Post by: Longy on March 07, 2010, 09:13:10 PM I'd 3 bet pre and fold to a 4 bet if villian who's opened re raises. Cooler as played 3bet/folding is really bad, as you are getting 2 to 1 ish and you are 2 to 1 against ak, jj+. Title: Re: deepstack tournament- just unlucky? Post by: Simon Galloway on March 07, 2010, 10:42:52 PM I have to smile at a 2 day deepstack event where over half the field have done their niags by level 6.....
Title: Re: deepstack tournament- just unlucky? Post by: OESFD on March 08, 2010, 12:43:58 AM cheers for the replies guys, the tourny was titled WaSop: Warwick Series of Poker!
Title: Re: deepstack tournament- just unlucky? Post by: AlexMartin on March 08, 2010, 04:11:33 PM I'd 3 bet pre and fold to a 4 bet if villian who's opened re raises. Cooler as played 3bet/folding is really bad, as you are getting 2 to 1 ish and you are 2 to 1 against ak, jj+. pretty sure u got levelled longy. gg m8 :) |