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Title: Did a flat call and lost my monies. $3/$6 nlh
Post by: Mitch on March 16, 2010, 05:02:54 PM
Ok im pretty sure i sholuld just be passing this when i get jammed on by the BB.... Obv im only getting the right price if he has 2 pair or is running some kind of move which is v.unlikely in this spot IMO with this player. Pretty much a set or flush here. Bubbling a EPT steps and couple of S&G's had me in gamble mode


Just interested how people play this once i have flatted pre and got into this spot in a 4 way pot once the flop after original raiser leads...

PokerStars Game #41245972167:  Hold'em No Limit ($3/$6 USD) - 2010/03/16 12:10:24 ET
Table 'Spartacus IV' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: Sparsi ($613.20 in chips)
Seat 2: Mishustik ($1299.25 in chips)
Seat 3: sirkingmitch ($633 in chips)
Seat 4: reDZill4 ($651 in chips)
Seat 6: maza98 ($300 in chips)
Seat 7: Kelisitaan ($606 in chips)
Seat 8: badbluff77 ($137.40 in chips)
Seat 9: thenutspt ($642 in chips)
badbluff77: posts small blind $3
thenutspt: posts big blind $6
ct112: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sirkingmitch [Ac Ahrt]
Sparsi: raises $15 to $21
Mishustik: folds
sirkingmitch: calls $21
reDZill4: calls $21
maza98: folds
Kelisitaan: folds
badbluff77: folds
thenutspt: calls $15
*** FLOP *** [6c Jc 7c]
thenutspt: checks
Sparsi: bets $64
sirkingmitch: raises $111 to $175
reDZill4: folds
thenutspt: raises $446 to $621 and is all-in
Sparsi: folds
sirkingmitch: calls $437 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($9) returned to thenutspt
*** TURN *** [6c Jc 7c] [5s]
*** RIVER *** [6c Jc 7c 5s] [2h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
thenutspt: shows [Kc 9c] (a flush, King high)
sirkingmitch: mucks hand
thenutspt collected $1372 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1375 | Rake $3
Board [6c Jc 7c 5s 2h]
Seat 1: Sparsi folded on the Flop
Seat 2: Mishustik folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: sirkingmitch mucked [Ac  Ahrt]
Seat 4: reDZill4 folded on the Flop
Seat 6: maza98 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Kelisitaan (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: badbluff77 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: thenutspt (big blind) showed [Kc 9c] and won ($1372) with a flush, King high


Title: Re: Did a flat call and lost my monies. $3/$6 nlh
Post by: George2Loose on March 16, 2010, 05:50:36 PM
Any reason why you took this line pre Mitch?


Title: Re: Did a flat call and lost my monies. $3/$6 nlh
Post by: Ironside on March 16, 2010, 05:51:43 PM
unless stacks were a hell of alot deeper i am never folding this hand on flop


Title: Re: Did a flat call and lost my monies. $3/$6 nlh
Post by: Mitch on March 16, 2010, 05:58:21 PM
Any reason why you took this line pre Mitch?

Just trying to induce a squeeze really, although tbh i wasnt really concentrating on the game as much as i should have been (one of the TV on, browsing FB, on the phone kinda sessions) and i thought this hand had came up on another table which was far more active. This table was a bit more passive and was more likely to pick up more flat callers once i had called from early position rather than a squeeze, so ideally i wouldnt have flatted here.


Title: Re: Did a flat call and lost my monies. $3/$6 nlh
Post by: titaniumbean on March 16, 2010, 06:00:32 PM
Cawl and hit a club?


Title: Re: Did a flat call and lost my monies. $3/$6 nlh
Post by: Mitch on March 16, 2010, 06:07:11 PM
Cawl and hit a club?

I dont run like that anymore.....ah the good old days  ;sark;

Flat the flop. Then, depending what happens, you may end up folding or shoving depending on your read. As played, guess you gotta call.

Ok, i flat and then BB makes it ~$250. What you doing then if A) original raiser shoves  B) he passes


Title: Re: Did a flat call and lost my monies. $3/$6 nlh
Post by: AlexMartin on March 16, 2010, 07:42:52 PM
unless stacks were a hell of alot deeper i am never folding this hand on flop

its 4way to the flop in a single raised pot. If someone else wants to play for stacks here we will usually be up against a made flush or a set/ very rarely some KcX hand. We have the nfd blocked. mitch, play 6max m8, your game will be more suited imo.

as played i gues u have to get it in, but personally i think raising will let him play his entire range close to perfectly unless u have some maniacal image.



Title: Re: Did a flat call and lost my monies. $3/$6 nlh
Post by: GreekStein on March 16, 2010, 07:52:29 PM
Definitely what Alexei Martino just said in terms of playing 6 max. You are 100x more suited to 6 max than gay full ring


Title: Re: Did a flat call and lost my monies. $3/$6 nlh
Post by: George2Loose on March 16, 2010, 08:07:32 PM
I also read somewhere the 2/4 and 3/6 is probably the toughest to beat on stars. You don't get as many fish as you get at 5/10 or 50/1 1/2. Just a load of cash sharks. Anyone who plays cash confirm/deny this?


Title: Re: Did a flat call and lost my monies. $3/$6 nlh
Post by: marcro on March 16, 2010, 08:14:58 PM
I also read somewhere the 2/4 and 3/6 is probably the toughest to beat on stars. You don't get as many fish as you get at 5/10 or 50/1 1/2. Just a load of cash sharks. Anyone who plays cash confirm/deny this?

I have not heard this but have seen many cases on PTR where people are winners at 5/10 but losers at 2/4.


Title: Re: Did a flat call and lost my monies. $3/$6 nlh
Post by: Mitch on March 17, 2010, 12:22:21 AM
I also read somewhere the 2/4 and 3/6 is probably the toughest to beat on stars. You don't get as many fish as you get at 5/10 or 50/1 1/2. Just a load of cash sharks. Anyone who plays cash confirm/deny this?

Yeah not too many people making too many mistakes, im just being lazy because i get on with the software on stars. Not using HUD either which is obv important at those levels.

Think im gonna give 6max a go for a bit or give a few other sites a blast.


Title: Re: Did a flat call and lost my monies. $3/$6 nlh
Post by: AlexMartin on March 17, 2010, 03:53:28 AM
I also read somewhere the 2/4 and 3/6 is probably the toughest to beat on stars. You don't get as many fish as you get at 5/10 or 50/1 1/2. Just a load of cash sharks. Anyone who plays cash confirm/deny this?

Yeah not too many people making too many mistakes, im just being lazy because i get on with the software on stars. Not using HUD either which is obv important at those levels.

Think im gonna give 6max a go for a bit or give a few other sites a blast.

you'll be the fish then.........

srsly, unless ur playing in a very small player pool, not using a hud is killing ur winrate/exacerrbating your lossrate to a ridic extent.