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Title: End game situation Post by: TightEnd on March 24, 2010, 03:13:47 AM 4 Left small live MTT
Standard payout structure which in this case is 350/280/180/130 blinds 3000-6000 no antes, 190000 in play. Some initial talk of a deal UTG 50k passes Button 32k shoves. SB 58k passes Hero 50k. Don't want to deal, would rather win it outright. Looks at Ac 4c and calls the shove Button is a fella called John Miller, who has hit GUKPT final tables. Has shown a few shoves when uncalled from 6 handed down. Shown 44, 55, KQ. A few other occasions not shown. Generally pretty solid from a night's play with him Not interested in result, but as I am rusty I would welcome comments on shoving/calling ranges here Thank you Title: Re: End game situation Post by: EvilPie on March 24, 2010, 03:21:11 AM Looks like a fold to me.
You're probably ahead but not by much. Probs calling KQ+ A9+ 66+ I prefer to pass this then shove one of next two hands when it gets to me unopened. Title: Re: End game situation Post by: thetank on March 24, 2010, 03:40:20 AM Call every day
Title: Re: End game situation Post by: maldini32 on March 24, 2010, 03:47:03 AM snap plz
Title: Re: End game situation Post by: thetank on March 24, 2010, 03:59:22 AM Snapping is better than nit rolling.
Folks tighten up their range a little when it comes to shoving into your blind if you make this kind of call quickly. Even a tiny tightening from them makes you money long term with these kind of blinds. Title: Re: End game situation Post by: thetank on March 24, 2010, 04:29:49 AM da math on the 37%/30%/19%/14% payout.
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii177/tigmong/tightywiz01.jpg) The point at which we make money from a call looks to be if BTN is shoving 28% ish or looser (which is almost anyace/anypair/any2broadway sorta range) From Tighty's read of BTN being pretty solid, I'd say he's shoving that and then some. Title: Re: End game situation Post by: LeKnave on March 24, 2010, 04:45:22 AM neverever fold here
Title: Re: End game situation Post by: GreekStein on March 24, 2010, 07:55:21 AM get it inski
Title: Re: End game situation Post by: BulldozerD on March 24, 2010, 09:20:31 AM this is a much easier call than the A3 hand discussed elsewhere, his range is wiiiiiiide and the blinds are huge
Title: Re: End game situation Post by: gatso on March 24, 2010, 09:28:16 AM snappity snap. the only thing that might slow me down is if I'm only peeping at the corners and get confused for a moment when I think I have 2 green aces
Standard payout structure which in this case is 350/280/180/130 [ ] standard that's a horrid structure Title: Re: End game situation Post by: outragous76 on March 24, 2010, 10:45:27 AM this is a much easier call than the A3 hand discussed elsewhere, his range is wiiiiiiide and the blinds are huge :dontask: Title: Re: End game situation Post by: BulldozerD on March 24, 2010, 10:51:21 AM this is a much easier call than the A3 hand discussed elsewhere, his range is wiiiiiiide and the blinds are huge :dontask: initial thoughts off top of my head you are in the money you have him covered you close the action he has 6bbs and it is 4 handed - blinds come round much quicker don't agree that villain could have "ATC" in previous hand - although his range is wide Title: Re: End game situation Post by: outragous76 on March 24, 2010, 11:50:47 AM this is a much easier call than the A3 hand discussed elsewhere, his range is wiiiiiiide and the blinds are huge :dontask: initial thoughts off top of my head you are in the money you have him covered you close the action he has 6bbs and it is 4 handed - blinds come round much quicker don't agree that villain could have "ATC" in previous hand - although his range is wide I cba to start this up again - but you merely confirmed everything i thought on the last thread by saying it here, your only valid point here being that you close the action Title: Re: End game situation Post by: Eck on March 24, 2010, 12:01:50 PM would hate it but probaly folding v this opponent would expect to be in very bad shape v his range.
Title: Re: End game situation Post by: Cf on March 24, 2010, 12:05:17 PM Snap call. If we're even thinking about folding this hand it makes shoving into our blind so so profitable.
Title: Re: End game situation Post by: BulldozerD on March 24, 2010, 12:13:06 PM this is a much easier call than the A3 hand discussed elsewhere, his range is wiiiiiiide and the blinds are huge :dontask: initial thoughts off top of my head you are in the money you have him covered you close the action he has 6bbs and it is 4 handed - blinds come round much quicker don't agree that villain could have "ATC" in previous hand - although his range is wide I cba to start this up again - but you merely confirmed everything i thought on the last thread by saying it here, your only valid point here being that you close the action meh i wasn't having a go but was just expecting someone to point out that i would happily call with A4s but want to fold A3. Happy to agree to disagree on the A3o hand Title: Re: End game situation Post by: MC on March 24, 2010, 05:41:53 PM how can we fold, we have the A4 of green!
Always a call for me.... Title: Re: End game situation Post by: nirvana on March 24, 2010, 06:16:32 PM Would call most people in this spot - however, the player mentioned is one I'd think twice, maybe three times about. May well pass and consider an open shove a hand or two later, with a slightly smaller stack, as more value than calling here
Title: Re: End game situation Post by: Moskvich on March 24, 2010, 07:15:25 PM Wondering if people are using the word 'solid' to mean different things in this thread..?
I think this should almost always be a call but can fairly easily imagine spots where it could be a pass. Title: Re: End game situation Post by: outragous76 on March 24, 2010, 07:25:04 PM fwiw i have played a tonne with John/derek on-line and he is shoving very wide in this spot (he is riverasusual on ipoker)
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