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Title: Mowbray leaves Celtic !!
Post by: Scottish Dave on March 25, 2010, 02:43:55 PM
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/2907256/Boss-Mowbray-leaves-Celtic.html (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/2907256/Boss-Mowbray-leaves-Celtic.html)

Thank Fuck!

He turned Celtic into a Laughing stock this season.

Good bye Tony


Title: Re: Mowbray leaves Celtic !!
Post by: Longy on March 25, 2010, 03:00:21 PM
sigh, maybe good timing from my point of view. Think Lambert's more likely if offered to turn it down now than in a year or so time.


Title: Re: Mowbray leaves Celtic !!
Post by: Acidmouse on March 25, 2010, 03:01:31 PM
Well John Barnes has the 2nd highest winrate of the last 8 managers. Maybe the Celtic fans that complained about Ginger nut will eat humble pie and realise he didnt do a bad job.


Title: Re: Mowbray leaves Celtic !!
Post by: TightEnd on March 25, 2010, 03:02:45 PM
Yup, complain about Strachan,reap what you sow I am afraid (as fans at a number of clubs do)

He doesn't seem so bad now


Title: Re: Mowbray leaves Celtic !!
Post by: Josedinho on March 25, 2010, 04:52:10 PM
he won't be short of job offers


Title: Re: Mowbray leaves Celtic !!
Post by: Maxriddles on March 25, 2010, 05:48:27 PM
Surprised to hear this, were referees not to blame for all Celtic's defeats and most of Rangers wins? How can that be Mowbray's fault?   ;)


Title: Re: Mowbray leaves Celtic !!
Post by: TightEnd on March 25, 2010, 05:58:28 PM
Guardian online this pm

In Scottish football parlance, Wednesday night in Paisley marked Tony Mowbray's George Burley moment. As Steven Thomson slammed home a fourth St Mirren goal against Mowbray's Celtic, the manager's job finally became untenable. Just, indeed, as did that of Burley as Scotland fell to a shambolic friendly 3-0 defeat in Wales last November.

Both managers had been working an unofficial period of probation having failed to meet their key remit: Burley to take the Scots to at least a play-off berth for this summer's World Cup, Mowbray to reclaim the title from Rangers. Thirteen defeats at this stage of the season, seven of them coming in a league in which they are the only team capable of spending meaningful money, proved unacceptable.

Mowbray's response to Celtic's midweek defeat, their heaviest outside Old Firm matches since 1980, their first league defeat in Paisley since 1989 and biggest thrashing by relegation-threatened St Mirren for 51 years, was to cite a discrepancy between his preferred tactical approach and what apparently works in the SPL. Celtic finished Wednesday's defeat with six strikers on the field. Their most creative player, Aiden McGeady, appeared to be deployed at left-back.

In a none-too-subtle dig at Rangers, Mowbray claimed perhaps "negative" and "defensive" football represented his best hope of success. Such a notion is undermined by the fact Rangers have scored eight more league goals than their city rivals this season. Equally pertinently, Mowbray had similar struggles in England's top flight a year ago as his West Bromwich Albion team were relegated with a shocking goal difference of -31.

Some questioned whether guiding a team to the dizzy heights of rock bottom of the Premier League should count as qualification to take over at Celtic, a club with aspirations to European influence, when Mowbray moved north last summer. Others pointed to his appointment as the latest illustration of Scottish football's diminishing standing; Owen Coyle, a Celtic supporter, had made it clear he was unwilling to swap Burnley for Parkhead.

Mowbray could be forgiven a Champions League qualifying exit at the hands of Arsenal and even the inauspicious Europa League campaign which followed. However, falling further behind a Rangers team which hasn't been reinforced by purchases since August 2008 would always prove too much for Celtic's support to take.

His problems have been multiplied by steeply falling attendances at home games. When season ticket holders are not prepared to appear for games they have already paid for, the likelihood of them renewing for next season diminishes, leading to a commercial necessity either for management change or radical squad overhaul.

Mowbray implemented the latter himself and, in his defence, it was required because the team assembled by Gordon Strachan seemed to have run its natural course. Yet there followed little evidence that Mowbray's undoubted ability to spot and sign the quality of player necessary to succeed in Scotland could be matched by the talent to use that personnel effectively. In a city where time is not a football commodity, the inability of Celtic's new signings to hit the ground running was fatal.

If the Scottish media bore the brunt of Mowbray's frustrations, they were perfectly placed to watch the effect his struggles had on his demeanour. While insisting, rightly, that the level of scrutiny afforded to him was considerably more intense than when he was in charge of West Bromwich or Hibernian, Mowbray undermined his subsequent assertions that such attentions did not worry him with an agitated or confrontational manner. Mowbray, in truth, was subjected to no more or less criticism than Burley, Berti Vogts, Paul Le Guen or John Barnes endured during their own traumatic spells in Scottish football.

Even Celtic insiders privately shook their heads at their manager's constant references to football ideology, how he "builds teams" as if instant success is an unexpected by-product, rather than the possible bedfellow of changes in personnel. The fact some of those changes included players signed on loan, the £68,000-a-week Robbie Keane among them, suggested at least someone at Celtic was aware short-term success is necessary for the club.

Neil Lennon, who sat watching Kilmarnock play Motherwell at the same time as Celtic stumbled to a home draw with Falkirk in mid-January, was promptly promoted to a role within Mowbray's dressing room, where he would cajole players at half-time. While the manager publicly maintained Lennon had always played a part in first-team affairs, the former captain's prominent re-emergence during a run of poor form was no coincidence.

Mowbray held more than a simple football association with the club after the tragic death of his then wife, Bernadette, while he was a player there. The closeness of her family to Celtic coupled with Mowbray's bond to them, to this day, meant this was a job that mattered more than most. That it ultimately ended in failure will hurt Mowbray to a far greater extent than anyone who has watched things unravel in less than a year.


Title: Re: Mowbray leaves Celtic !!
Post by: ACE2M on March 25, 2010, 06:00:52 PM
i still like him, i won a tidy sum on him to become next manager of celtic.


Title: Re: Mowbray leaves Celtic !!
Post by: gatso on March 25, 2010, 06:06:28 PM
also from the guardian

MOWBRAY, MO' PROBLEMS

It was a cold rainy night in central Scotland so 46-year-old Tony Mowbray went out in his favourite tailored t-shirt. "Bah! It's cold and I'm getting wet!" he observed a short time later. Undeterred, he trudged on, only to be confronted by a muscle-bound mugger with a big sharp knife and an unsightly glob of drool in the corner of his mouth. "Ha! I'll repel him with my fine words and noble intentions!" thought the cunning Mr Mowbray.

Upon awaking in the ambulance a few hours later he demanded to disembark, insisting he needed neither attention nor plasters, and that he had every confidence his broken legs would soon heal themselves if he'd just keep on walking with them and falling down and trying to get up and falling down again and trying to get up and falling down again.

The medics helped him to St Mirren Park all the same, and were not at all surprised when this curious character who turned out to be a football manager fielded a team with no effective defenders, tacklers or plan for dealing with the bleeding obvious. "Cripes, we lost 4-0!" goshed Mr Mowbray. "We've conceded more goals in the league this season than Motherwell!" he realised before an angry rumble from his stomach reminded him that though he'd spent all that morning arranging the furniture in his kitchen into quite a pretty pattern, he'd again neglected to eat.

The next day – today, in fact – he was summoned for a lunch-time meeting with Queen's Celtic big cheese Peter Lawwell. "Strewth, I've been sacked!" he had cause to exclaim a couple of seconds later. Queen's Celtic, it seems, finally ran out of patience with Mr Mowbray and his crazy ways and decided to install wee Neil Lennon as interim manager for the rest of the season.

As the ex-manager stood scratching his head, Lawwell may have paused to reflect that the ultimate humiliation had come at Paisley, birthplace of Owen Coyle, the man whose rejection of the Queen's Celtic job nine months ago paved the way for this fiasco in the first place.


Title: Re: Mowbray leaves Celtic !!
Post by: TightEnd on March 25, 2010, 06:23:22 PM
Ladbrokes say Nigel Pearson if fourth favourite to take over at Celtic, 8/1. Hands off please

Neil Lennon is 9/2 favourite - no way. Paul Lambert for me.


Title: Re: Mowbray leaves Celtic !!
Post by: bobby1 on March 25, 2010, 06:29:19 PM
How bad a manager ( or arrogant) do you have to be to keep bleating on about 'sticking to footballing principles', whatever that means until you relegate one team and then lose your next job?


Title: Re: Mowbray leaves Celtic !!
Post by: Maxriddles on March 25, 2010, 06:30:16 PM
Ladbrokes say Nigel Pearson if fourth favourite to take over at Celtic, 8/1. Hands off please

Neil Lennon is 9/2 favourite - no way. Paul Lambert for me.

A lot of talk before the last OF game that Lambert has no desire to have any involvement with the OF again and sees his future outside of Scotland, most likely the Premiership. Would be a good choice though, has done a good job at Wycombe, Colchester, and Norwich.

I actually think wee GS would be not a bad move but think that's highly unlikely, if having a bet my Money would be on Mick McCarthy.


Title: Re: Mowbray leaves Celtic !!
Post by: Maxriddles on March 25, 2010, 06:44:35 PM
Ladbrokes say Nigel Pearson if fourth favourite to take over at Celtic, 8/1. Hands off please

Neil Lennon is 9/2 favourite - no way. Paul Lambert for me.

A lot of talk before the last OF game that Lambert has no desire to have any involvement with the OF again and sees his future outside of Scotland, most likely the Premiership. Would be a good choice though, has done a good job at Wycombe, Colchester, and Norwich.

I actually think wee GS would be not a bad move but think that's highly unlikely, if having a bet my Money would be on Mick McCarthy.

I now have my money on Mick McCarthy, 40/1 is well worth a speculative tenner IMO.


Title: Re: Mowbray leaves Celtic !!
Post by: Scottish Dave on March 25, 2010, 06:58:45 PM
Ladbrokes say Nigel Pearson if fourth favourite to take over at Celtic, 8/1. Hands off please

Neil Lennon is 9/2 favourite - no way. Paul Lambert for me.

A lot of talk before the last OF game that Lambert has no desire to have any involvement with the OF again and sees his future outside of Scotland, most likely the Premiership. Would be a good choice though, has done a good job at Wycombe, Colchester, and Norwich.

I actually think wee GS would be not a bad move but think that's highly unlikely, if having a bet my Money would be on Mick McCarthy.

I now have my money on Mick McCarthy, 40/1 is well worth a speculative tenner IMO.

NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

We dont want defensive football at parkhead!!

Lambert has no interest in job

WGS wont come back

Moyes, Ill crack the jokes!

Lennon, would be a nice thought but never managed before.

I do fear the worst


Foreigner Perhaps ??


Title: Re: Mowbray leaves Celtic !!
Post by: Longy on March 25, 2010, 07:00:39 PM
Lambert ruled out going back to scotland earlier in the month http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8670_6000237,00.html . Whether this proves to be true if Celtic come calling I am not so sure.

He is extremely ambitious and his managerial targets lie beyond managing Celtic, before we start with the how big of a club Celtic is. The reality is they play in a very uncompetitive 2nd/3rd tier European league and that was unappealing to Owen Coyle clearly.

He also despite the great start he has made to the job at Norwich still has bit to prove and there is deffo room for continued improvement to further his reputation at Norwich as well as being given time to do so. Another couple of years with us eventually competing at the top end of the Championship is more likely to help his CV than leaving another job after short period of time to take a bit of a poisioned chalice north of the border.

Of course Celtic are much bigger club than us, but there are quite a few reasons, if Lambert is shrewd to stay put imo. I don't expect him to be at Carrow Road in 5 years time, I am realist he is destined for bigger things.





Title: Re: Mowbray leaves Celtic !!
Post by: Scottish Dave on March 25, 2010, 07:07:07 PM
Lambert ruled out going back to scotland earlier in the month http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8670_6000237,00.html . Whether this proves to be true if Celtic come calling I am not so sure.

He is extremely ambitious and his managerial targets lie beyond managing Celtic, before we start with the how big of a club Celtic is. The reality is they play in a very uncompetitive 2nd/3rd tier European league and that was unappealing to Owen Coyle clearly.

He also despite the great start he has made to the job at Norwich still has bit to prove and there is deffo room for continued improvement to further his reputation at Norwich as well as being given time to do so. Another couple of years with us eventually competing at the top end of the Championship is more likely to help his CV than leaving another job after short period of time to take a bit of a poisioned chalice north of the border.

Of course Celtic are much bigger club than us, but there are quite a few reasons, if Lambert is shrewd to stay put imo. I don't expect him to be at Carrow Road in 5 years time, I am realist he is destined for bigger things.





Couldn't agree more

I love Paul Lambert, and really think he would ruin his blossoming career by coming here, the Celtic job is a Lose/Lose situation, as will the Rangers job be when Walter Smith leaves.

Id bite your hand off for him, but wouldn't blame him if he ran a mile when Lawwell picks up the phone, which will happen


Title: Re: Mowbray leaves Celtic !!
Post by: thetank on March 25, 2010, 08:55:40 PM
Have McGhee, we'll throw in some boiled sweets.


Title: Re: Mowbray leaves Celtic !!
Post by: Hairydude on March 25, 2010, 10:06:31 PM
Have McGhee, we'll throw in some boiled sweets.

PLEAAAASSSSEEEE PLEEEEEAAAAASSSSEEEE make this happen...I think celtic would be in even a worse position if Mcghee was there


Title: Re: Mowbray leaves Celtic !!
Post by: fatshaft on March 25, 2010, 11:34:35 PM
Have McGhee, we'll throw in some boiled sweets.
We're quite happy with McGhee tyvm.


Title: Re: Mowbray leaves Celtic !!
Post by: Longy on March 26, 2010, 11:13:42 AM
Lambert just given in an interview to SSN, pretty standard Lambert interview where he gives out a lot of complements "he loves it at Norwich" and "I always look out for Celtic results" but actually tells you nothing and doesn't committ himself to anything.



Title: Re: Mowbray leaves Celtic !!
Post by: TightEnd on March 26, 2010, 11:18:02 AM
Roy Keane?


Title: Re: Mowbray leaves Celtic !!
Post by: Scottish Dave on March 26, 2010, 02:24:38 PM
Roy Keane?

what about him?


Title: Re: Mowbray leaves Celtic !!
Post by: TightEnd on March 26, 2010, 02:25:57 PM
A possible manager?


Title: Re: Mowbray leaves Celtic !!
Post by: Micko on March 26, 2010, 02:49:48 PM
I think if they offer Lambert it which i think the board will then he'd accept it.


Title: Re: Mowbray leaves Celtic !!
Post by: Maxriddles on March 26, 2010, 05:51:36 PM
Roy Keane?

I'd be happy if he was appointed the next Celtic boss, think that probably says it all about Keane.


Title: Re: Mowbray leaves Celtic !!
Post by: Teacake on March 26, 2010, 09:06:16 PM
Only decision that could be made really, I haven't heard one person say that TM deserved more time.

Felt sorry for the guy actually he just didn't have it too manage Celtic, the job looked too big for him from fairly early on and he looked ill towards the end, the best outcome for all concerned was a parting of the ways.

Lennon until the end of the season is a sensible move, let the dust settle and start again for next season. It won't actually take much to get back on top again, Rangers are functional and difficult to beat, they also possess a mentality that Celtic haven't had this season but they aren't world beaters.

Lets not go over the Strachan debate again, his defenders on here  didn't have to watch his team week in week out. He had 4 years in charge which he felt was long enough and it was his decision to leave.


Title: Re: Mowbray leaves Celtic !!
Post by: Scottish Dave on March 27, 2010, 10:29:22 AM
Roy Keane about to get sacked if he loses!!!

FML Please NO!!!!!!!!!

Clueless manager!

If Lennon and Mjallby win the cup and win 90% of remaining game, but most importantly put some heart back in the team, ill be happy to give them the job.

Alan Thomson will be back as a coach too if they get the job.

The Team on Seville 2003 reunited!!!


Really buzzing about the future now, ill off to Celtic Park today to cheer Lenny!!!!