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Well its that time of season again, where shall we just say that some of the Italian games are suspected to be fixed.  I remember watching a game back in the Gazza era on Channel 4 when they showed Seria A games.  AC Milan were playing an incredibly boring game when in the 85th minute an 18 yr old came on for his debut and within a minute cracked one in from 25 yards out.  He goes mental running around celebrating, as he would scoring on debut, he then turns round to celebrate with team mates and only one has congratulated him and even one has his hands on his hips.  Funnily enough the oppo who hadnt had a shot on target then went straight from the kick off, rounded the keeper and scored with hardly a challeneg going in.  Again funnily enough the draw had been heavily backed before the game.

Its now known what goes on but no proof can ever be made.  It is alleged that some members of the Mafia who own and run the clubs agree on a result in return for cash or so they call in favours in following seasons.

In recent seasons ive seen a relegation threatened team win away from home after going off at 1/3 but most results are the draws.

Last week 98% of betting on a game was gambled on a draw and the price went from 2/1 into 1/2 and the 1:1 correct score was even matched at slight odds on.

Im gonna try to update this thread and let people know as suspect games coming u.p.

1st one is this saturday.  Modena vs Piacenza - the odds on the draw at present are 5/6 best price with VC and 4/5 with laddies.

You reckon these prices are going to shorten further mate??

Surely they just pull the market before shortening anymore?

Cant see it listed on VC righ now

They tend to shorten while all lemmings lump on and then drift when people lay off.  However I couldnt say with any great confidence.

Some do, some are happy to lay at odds on

Sorry I'm confused now - I thought you were suggesting its a good bet at these prices ??

I think it is a good bet, I dont however know about the price shortening to trading purposes to which you asked about.

Gotcha :)

Blatch, you have missed the game off that was played this midweek that had a draw price of 1.63 on the off that finished 2-0.

Didnt know anything about it.

*blatch finds horses head in bed shocker*

;)

Yip, Unfortunately Snowball was on it, However he only managed to get £70ish matched.

We have been monitoring them for a few weeks now

Have I missed a thread?

Thats the prob Dave, if these games were truly bent you wouldnt be able to get a bet on. As we know, if the Italians want to fix a result they do. These other games where its clear as day that there is a 'mutual benefit from taking a draw each' are priced like that.

So taking 4/5 when its clearly a price that takes into acciount the fact that a draw suits both is following like a lemming to use Batch's phrase, coz the price has taken all that into account.


As for using phrases like lemmings following on, what exactly is taking 4/5 the draw doing??

did you see this one? http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=47260.0

ahhh i remember when ac milan used to be successful

Such a great game

http://www.elizium.nu/scripts/lemmings/

I think so, there was a thread a couple of weeks ago, plus it was in the papers up here about it.

there have been 3 so far, 2 drawing 1-1 which was the supposed plan, and 1 finishing 2-0.

Luckily Snowball was in for £500 in the 1-1 results and only managed to be £70 matched in the 2-0 game.

Good Times!

In before Scottish Dave backs Snowball online posts... ;D

Piacenza won 1-0 hopefully Snowball just lost the minimum again

He didn't get involved as was at Celtic Park then out all day Pubbing it!

How fortunate that he piled into both the 1-1 draws but only got on for minimum and totally swerved the two that went tits up.MBN

I guess there is more than a few good reason to be a Celtic fan then eh.

I think the small loss in the 2-0 game showed the vulnerablity in these bets too tho, it's a lot of outlay at terrible prices on a romoured outcome.

I have bet football for a living for over five years now and have followed these so called bent games for about twelve years since I was a trader for a big bookmaker and I don't think there is any value in betting them.  For sure there are some dodgy things that go on at the end of the Italian (and other leagues) seasonsbut they is a lot of rumour and counter rumour too.  I wouldn't want to be backing them.

Padova v Atalanta best price draw tonight 2/5

Thought Scottish Dave was back until I read the date of his post :(

I did the same.... gutted he's not back :(

£1.4m bet on the match, £1.3m on the draw...lol greened out for £60, but how on earth is this allowed (live on Betfair Vid) and are all 22 players in on this?

1-1 easy money right there...

4/9 best price Chievo V Sampdoria

400k ish matched

0 - 0 What a suprise!

Keep putting them up, seems like easy money to me.  As a footie fan though, this is just real bad for the game, blatantly rigged.  Puts me off the game knowing this type of stuff is happening.

Theres a chap on twitter who puts up about 10 for every saturday that are odds on draws.  Mostly Italian, I've just put down the shorest odds one/most famous teams, personnally I don't bet on them, but it is interesting.