Title: Frustrating! Post by: George2Loose on April 02, 2010, 05:31:15 PM OK is there basically nothing I can do here? Should I check/fold? Call pre? For some reason I keep getting shoved on and burning up half my stack:
Full Tilt Poker Game #19759618349: $17,500 KO Guarantee (150953989), Table 11 - 40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 12:18:59 ET - 2010/04/02 Seat 1: Furmules (9,765) Seat 2: threete (4,961) Seat 3: George2Loose (5,790) Seat 4: TUCCI007 (9,930) Seat 5: Alex2107 (3,610) Seat 6: Oxide101 (19,800) Seat 7: BNTP4 (6,915) Seat 8: rh300487 (2,705) Seat 9: basouli (3,500) George2Loose posts the small blind of 40 TUCCI007 posts the big blind of 80 The button is in seat #2 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to George2Loose [Ad Kd] Alex2107 folds Dealerluv (Observer): HO Oxide101 has been disconnected Oxide101 has 15 seconds left to act Oxide101 has reconnected Oxide101 has 15 seconds left to act Oxide101 folds BNTP4 calls 80 rh300487 has 15 seconds left to act rh300487 folds Dealerluv (Observer): HEY OXIDE Dealerluv (Observer): SIR basouli folds Furmules folds threete raises to 340 George2Loose raises to 920 TUCCI007 folds BNTP4 folds threete calls 580 *** FLOP *** [4c 3s Qh] George2Loose bets 1,160 threete has 15 seconds left to act threete raises to 4,041, and is all in George2Loose folds Uncalled bet of 2,881 returned to threete threete mucks threete wins the pot (4,320) The blinds are now 50/100 *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 4,320 | Rake 0 Board: [4c 3s Qh] Seat 1: Furmules didn't bet (folded) Seat 2: threete (button) collected (4,320), mucked Seat 3: George2Loose (small blind) folded on the Flop Seat 4: TUCCI007 (big blind) folded before the Flop Seat 5: Alex2107 didn't bet (folded) Seat 6: Oxide101 didn't bet (folded) Seat 7: BNTP4 folded before the Flop Seat 8: rh300487 didn't bet (folded) Seat 9: basouli didn't bet (folded) Title: Re: Frustrating! Post by: thetank on April 02, 2010, 05:46:26 PM Line is fine imo. 3 chances to win; opponent pre flop fold, opponent fold to our c-bet or we can even occasionaly connect with a flop.
Calling pre is ok too, if we think opponent is raising wide enough that we are happy to check call post when limper folds and it's heads up but we miss. Title: Re: Frustrating! Post by: George2Loose on April 02, 2010, 05:53:02 PM Just seems I keep getting shoved on in this spot. Spose they all put me on ace king and own my soul
Title: Re: Frustrating! Post by: thetank on April 02, 2010, 05:58:03 PM Maybe it's the c bet size? I'm way more likely to shove on someone betting 58% than someone betting 65%-75% ish.
Title: Re: Frustrating! Post by: George2Loose on April 02, 2010, 06:14:06 PM Maybe it's the c bet size? I'm way more likely to shove on someone betting 58% than someone betting 65%-75% ish. Yeh was thinking this myself. Although I would probably size it the same to induce so spose I need to generally up my c bet size Title: Re: Frustrating! Post by: George2Loose on April 02, 2010, 06:15:12 PM Owning me now:
Full Tilt Poker Game #19760478235: $17,500 KO Guarantee (150953989), Table 11 - 100/200 - No Limit Hold'em - 13:02:54 ET - 2010/04/02 Seat 1: chil ivey (10,821) Seat 2: threete (9,042) Seat 3: George2Loose (9,300) Seat 4: TUCCI007 (4,410) Seat 5: Alex2107 (7,525) Seat 6: Oxide101 (28,129) Seat 7: BNTP4 (4,895) Seat 8: rh300487 (2,250) Seat 9: basouli (2,550) basouli posts the small blind of 100 chil ivey posts the big blind of 200 The button is in seat #8 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to George2Loose [Ac Kh] threete calls 200 George2Loose has 15 seconds left to act George2Loose raises to 800 TUCCI007 folds Alex2107 folds Oxide101 folds BNTP4 has 15 seconds left to act BNTP4 folds rh300487 folds basouli folds chil ivey folds threete calls 600 *** FLOP *** [6d Qs 9s] threete bets 700 George2Loose folds Uncalled bet of 700 returned to threete threete mucks threete wins the pot (1,900) *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 1,900 | Rake 0 Board: [6d Qs 9s] Seat 1: chil ivey (big blind) folded before the Flop Seat 2: threete collected (1,900), mucked Seat 3: George2Loose folded on the Flop Seat 4: TUCCI007 didn't bet (folded) Seat 5: Alex2107 didn't bet (folded) Seat 6: Oxide101 didn't bet (folded) Seat 7: BNTP4 didn't bet (folded) Seat 8: rh300487 (button) didn't bet (folded) Seat 9: basouli (small blind) folded before the Flop Title: Re: Frustrating! Post by: thetank on April 02, 2010, 06:32:27 PM meh, w/out reads I'd probs snap the small donk bet there.
with reads I'd probs snap the small donk bet too as my reads are generally shit. :) Title: Re: Frustrating! Post by: George2Loose on April 02, 2010, 06:34:08 PM meh, w/out reads I'd probs snap the small donk bet there. with reads I'd probs snap the small donk bet too as my reads are generally shit. :) meh guy didnt like folding and was pretty aggro. Waited till I flopped a set of queens when he had middle pair instead :D Title: Re: Frustrating! Post by: thetank on April 02, 2010, 06:37:35 PM good stuff
AK high might be good were my thoughts. IP we could get a cheap showdown. Usually I'd fire on turn if he checks but against described opponent I'd check behind and snap on river. Title: Re: Frustrating! Post by: outragous76 on April 02, 2010, 06:43:43 PM dont c bet the flop when you have to fold to the shove - ie with shallow stacks
poker gods will reward you with a K on the turn Title: Re: Frustrating! Post by: thetank on April 02, 2010, 06:49:40 PM dont c bet the flop when you have to fold to the shove - ie with shallow stacks poker gods will reward you with a K on the turn call or fold in hand 1 after you check OOP and villain bets? Title: Re: Frustrating! Post by: George2Loose on April 02, 2010, 07:08:28 PM dont c bet the flop when you have to fold to the shove - ie with shallow stacks poker gods will reward you with a K on the turn call or fold in hand 1 after you check OOP and villain bets? Yeh I don't really like checking when 4 betting. Fear not I donked off my stack in true George2loose style Title: Re: Frustrating! Post by: EvilPie on April 02, 2010, 07:38:44 PM Just seems I keep getting shoved on in this spot. Spose they all put me on ace king and own my soul Ha ha. I always think this when I have to lay AK down. I think we need to be more positive and spose they had da nuts and we actually made the correct laydown. Title: Re: Frustrating! Post by: AlexMartin on April 03, 2010, 07:07:41 AM 3b smaller hand 1
Title: Re: Frustrating! Post by: david3103 on April 03, 2010, 09:59:44 AM Why such big raises pre?
I know Hand 1 is a reraise but Hand 2 you've only got 1 limper and I'd expect you to be making 2.4-2.5x plus a small bit for the limper, not 4x I'm not criticising the bet, just looking for clarity - the bets here don't match the pattern you were playing in that Friday Night tourney you posted on APAT |