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Title: did i play this real bad or just a little bad ? Post by: Ironside on April 14, 2010, 09:06:40 PM and i take it its a muct call once i lead out on flop
PokerStars Game #42667168784: Tournament #306010513, $3.00+$0.30 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2010/04/14 20:53:13 WET [2010/04/14 15:53:13 ET] Table '306010513 566' 9-max Seat #7 is the button Seat 1: GeorginoAA (11570 in chips) Seat 2: nicholas6868 (12300 in chips) Seat 3: SFGiants2009 (22167 in chips) Seat 4: Meister--65 (8235 in chips) Seat 5: scarface407 (10036 in chips) Seat 6: juju33400 (15080 in chips) Seat 7: thiagowander (9400 in chips) Seat 8: Alpha Persei (16185 in chips) Seat 9: Ironside (11650 in chips) GeorginoAA: posts the ante 50 nicholas6868: posts the ante 50 SFGiants2009: posts the ante 50 Meister--65: posts the ante 50 scarface407: posts the ante 50 juju33400: posts the ante 50 thiagowander: posts the ante 50 Alpha Persei: posts the ante 50 Ironside: posts the ante 50 Alpha Persei: posts small blind 200 Ironside: posts big blind 400 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Ironside [Kd Ac] GeorginoAA: raises 1200 to 1600 nicholas6868: folds SFGiants2009: folds Meister--65: folds scarface407: folds juju33400: folds thiagowander: folds Alpha Persei: folds Ironside: raises 2400 to 4000 GeorginoAA: calls 2400 *** FLOP *** [Ts Ks Qh] Ironside: bets 4000 GeorginoAA: raises 3520 to 7520 and is all-in Title: Re: did i play this real bad or just a little bad ? Post by: George2Loose on April 14, 2010, 09:09:34 PM No and Yes
Title: Re: did i play this real bad or just a little bad ? Post by: BulldozerD on April 14, 2010, 09:31:13 PM not folding or even considering it with stack sizes
Title: Re: did i play this real bad or just a little bad ? Post by: GreekStein on April 14, 2010, 09:32:03 PM JAM PRE??
Title: Re: did i play this real bad or just a little bad ? Post by: Ironside on April 14, 2010, 09:34:08 PM my problem is am i supposed to shove the flop ?
Title: Re: did i play this real bad or just a little bad ? Post by: Ironside on April 14, 2010, 09:35:00 PM Title: Re: did i play this real bad or just a little bad ? Post by: outragous76 on April 14, 2010, 09:38:53 PM i think jamming pre is too much (>10x is bet) the min raise is just horrible the rest is std Title: Re: did i play this real bad or just a little bad ? Post by: Ironside on April 14, 2010, 09:42:34 PM i think jamming pre is too much (>10x is bet) the min raise is just horrible the rest is std what min raise? Title: Re: did i play this real bad or just a little bad ? Post by: pleno1 on April 14, 2010, 09:43:11 PM raise enough pre so we can jam flop.
Title: Re: did i play this real bad or just a little bad ? Post by: GreekStein on April 14, 2010, 09:45:42 PM There is 200 (SB) + 400 (BB) + 450 (antes) + 1600 (raise) which is 2650, so we're adding over 20% to our stack if he folds.
He's 4x'd under the gun so already we know he's a f donk. If we 3-bet he'll prob peel (that's how donkos roll) and then it could become a problem when he peels. 25bbs is an awkward stack size to reraise with. Happy to ship after a 4x open. Against a normal raise (2.2-2.5x) I 3-bet. Title: Re: did i play this real bad or just a little bad ? Post by: outragous76 on April 14, 2010, 09:49:02 PM i think jamming pre is too much (>10x is bet) the min raise is just horrible the rest is std what min raise? sigh totally mis read it all jam pre is fine Title: Re: did i play this real bad or just a little bad ? Post by: Ironside on April 14, 2010, 09:58:49 PM AK again here any views?
PokerStars Game #42669944946: Tournament #306010533, $20+$2 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2010/04/14 21:46:19 WET [2010/04/14 16:46:19 ET] Table '306010533 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button Seat 1: ali1010 (19700 in chips) Seat 2: dmytro1 (33330 in chips) Seat 3: scottdand (23828 in chips) Seat 4: PokeRMamiaS (14090 in chips) Seat 5: Ironside (10007 in chips) Seat 6: mobbdeep112 (9036 in chips) Seat 7: GrGregmaster (5675 in chips) Seat 9: iloveyorkies (12862 in chips) ali1010: posts the ante 50 dmytro1: posts the ante 50 scottdand: posts the ante 50 PokeRMamiaS: posts the ante 50 Ironside: posts the ante 50 mobbdeep112: posts the ante 50 GrGregmaster: posts the ante 50 iloveyorkies: posts the ante 50 PokeRMamiaS: posts small blind 200 Ironside: posts big blind 400 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Ironside [Ks Ac] iloveyorkies said, "trully" mobbdeep112: folds iloveyorkies said, "truly" GrGregmaster: folds iloveyorkies: folds ali1010: folds dmytro1: folds scottdand: folds PokeRMamiaS: calls 200 Ironside: raises 800 to 1200 PokeRMamiaS: calls 800 *** FLOP *** [7d Td Kh] PokeRMamiaS: checks Ironside: bets 1200 PokeRMamiaS: raises 2400 to 3600 Ironside: raises 5157 to 8757 and is all-in Title: Re: did i play this real bad or just a little bad ? Post by: BulldozerD on April 14, 2010, 10:00:42 PM mbn to keep flopping tptk
Title: Re: did i play this real bad or just a little bad ? Post by: GreekStein on April 14, 2010, 10:00:56 PM AK again here any views? PokerStars Game #42669944946: Tournament #306010533, $20+$2 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2010/04/14 21:46:19 WET [2010/04/14 16:46:19 ET] Table '306010533 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button Seat 1: ali1010 (19700 in chips) Seat 2: dmytro1 (33330 in chips) Seat 3: scottdand (23828 in chips) Seat 4: PokeRMamiaS (14090 in chips) Seat 5: Ironside (10007 in chips) Seat 6: mobbdeep112 (9036 in chips) Seat 7: GrGregmaster (5675 in chips) Seat 9: iloveyorkies (12862 in chips) ali1010: posts the ante 50 dmytro1: posts the ante 50 scottdand: posts the ante 50 PokeRMamiaS: posts the ante 50 Ironside: posts the ante 50 mobbdeep112: posts the ante 50 GrGregmaster: posts the ante 50 iloveyorkies: posts the ante 50 PokeRMamiaS: posts small blind 200 Ironside: posts big blind 400 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Ironside [Ks Ac] iloveyorkies said, "trully" mobbdeep112: folds iloveyorkies said, "truly" GrGregmaster: folds iloveyorkies: folds ali1010: folds dmytro1: folds scottdand: folds PokeRMamiaS: calls 200 Ironside: raises 800 to 1200 PokeRMamiaS: calls 800 *** FLOP *** [7d Td Kh] PokeRMamiaS: checks Ironside: bets 1200 PokeRMamiaS: raises 2400 to 3600 Ironside: raises 5157 to 8757 and is all-in like ur line in this one iron. dont like the first hand. Title: Re: did i play this real bad or just a little bad ? Post by: outragous76 on April 14, 2010, 10:01:14 PM fine
Title: Re: did i play this real bad or just a little bad ? Post by: marcin123 on April 14, 2010, 11:07:31 PM hand 1 raise more pre to jam flop...
hand 2 standard... Title: Re: did i play this real bad or just a little bad ? Post by: Doobs on April 15, 2010, 12:38:34 AM I think both are fine, but I'd probably just jam pre in the first one
Title: Re: did i play this real bad or just a little bad ? Post by: AlexMartin on April 16, 2010, 02:23:46 AM both are pretty good m8. nothing to see here.
Title: Re: did i play this real bad or just a little bad ? Post by: Nico29 on April 16, 2010, 10:26:55 AM First hand def jam, 2nd hand totally standard wp.
Title: Re: did i play this real bad or just a little bad ? Post by: GreekStein on April 16, 2010, 01:14:42 PM both are pretty good m8. nothing to see here. ?? hate first hand. Title: Re: did i play this real bad or just a little bad ? Post by: Shawrie85 on April 16, 2010, 04:11:07 PM Nice lines
Title: Re: did i play this real bad or just a little bad ? Post by: byronkincaid on April 17, 2010, 09:30:10 PM In a tournament situation, most of the players have never seen me before, so I'll generally give them credit for the hand they're representing with the re-raise. However, if my opponent has raised a lot on the Button and I then re-raise and he raises back, I will call if I have previously folded to him in a situation like that. Sure, this may be the time when he really has a hand, but I've got to send a message to not only my opponent, but the others at the table; you can't move me off my hand just by coming back at me. This is a good point to talk about "gambling" as it relates to NLHE tournaments. You all have undoubtedly heard others say, "Sometimes you just have to gamble" and I agree. But there's gambling and there's gambling. Raising in early position with A-8s and calling a re-raise is gambling. I'd only do that if I were short-stacked and desperate.
Title: Re: did i play this real bad or just a little bad ? Post by: booder on April 17, 2010, 09:41:05 PM In a tournament situation, most of the players have never seen me before, so I'll generally give them credit for the hand they're representing with the re-raise. However, if my opponent has raised a lot on the Button and I then re-raise and he raises back, I will call if I have previously folded to him in a situation like that. Sure, this may be the time when he really has a hand, but I've got to send a message to not only my opponent, but the others at the table; you can't move me off my hand just by coming back at me. This is a good point to talk about "gambling" as it relates to NLHE tournaments. You all have undoubtedly heard others say, "Sometimes you just have to gamble" and I agree. But there's gambling and there's gambling. Raising in early position with A-8s and calling a re-raise is gambling. I'd only do that if I were short-stacked and desperate. http://www.gamemasteronline.com/Archive/PokerSchool/PokerSchool-Lesson-18.shtml |