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Title: QQ on paired board
Post by: MC on April 19, 2010, 02:47:17 PM
$50 MTT, only read on villain is that he has reasonable stats over 150 hands, 16/13 or something like that...

Full Tilt Poker Game #20190430420: $12,500 Guarantee (154801538), Table 15 - 40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:12:34 ET - 2010/04/19
Seat 1: Vampire_k16 (4,200)
Seat 2: Fido7Dido (5,730)
Seat 3: BRAM72 (3,205)
Seat 5: pierrenl1 (3,485)
Seat 6: cro_cop1 (10,200)
Seat 7: Alik1970 (5,085)
Seat 8: jack gg black (3,615)
Seat 9: SomeoneNebo (3,845)
pierrenl1 posts the small blind of 40
cro_cop1 posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Fido7Dido [Qd Qc]
Alik1970 folds
jack gg black folds
SomeoneNebo folds
Vampire_k16 has 15 seconds left to act
Vampire_k16 calls 80
Fido7Dido has 15 seconds left to act
Fido7Dido has requested TIME
Fido7Dido raises to 296
BRAM72 folds
pierrenl1 folds
cro_cop1 calls 216
Vampire_k16 folds
*** FLOP *** [Jh 5c 2h]
cro_cop1 bets 280
Fido7Dido has 15 seconds left to act
Fido7Dido has requested TIME
Fido7Dido raises to 800
cro_cop1 calls 520
*** TURN *** [Jh 5c 2h] [Jd]
cro_cop1 has 15 seconds left to act
cro_cop1 bets 9,104, and is all in
Fido7Dido........


Title: Re: QQ on paired board
Post by: Ironside on April 19, 2010, 02:51:01 PM
i let this one go


Title: Re: QQ on paired board
Post by: Cf on April 19, 2010, 05:33:57 PM
Prob a sigh fold. He could have the flush draw I guess but meh whatever, let him have it.


Title: Re: QQ on paired board
Post by: mondatoo on April 19, 2010, 05:44:12 PM
The fact he makes this ridic overbet means he's not likely to be v good imo.Doubt I'm not folding here but then I don't think I've ever folded an overpair in my life :)

Edited my post because it was a bit ambigous when I read it back plus cos said he's not folding


Title: Re: QQ on paired board
Post by: GreekStein on April 19, 2010, 05:49:23 PM
Not folding to this spanner.


Title: Re: QQ on paired board
Post by: Rupert on April 19, 2010, 07:06:26 PM
don't think it's even a close fold


Title: Re: QQ on paired board
Post by: AlexMartin on April 19, 2010, 07:20:05 PM
Not folding to this spanner.

snap


Title: Re: QQ on paired board
Post by: GreekStein on April 20, 2010, 02:02:00 PM
don't think it's even a close fold

?? you're saying its an easy fold!?


Title: Re: QQ on paired board
Post by: Rupert on April 20, 2010, 03:38:47 PM
imo.  we are repping a strong range.


Title: Re: QQ on paired board
Post by: AlexMartin on April 20, 2010, 03:46:20 PM
imo.  we are repping a strong range.

and someone that donkbet calls on the flop in a 3b pot understands what a range is?



Title: Re: QQ on paired board
Post by: MC on April 20, 2010, 05:38:15 PM
Would it be a different decision if it was a rainbow board?


Title: Re: QQ on paired board
Post by: AlexMartin on April 20, 2010, 05:41:18 PM
Would it be a different decision if it was a rainbow board?

yes, even idiots dont peel a 3b light, donk/c the flop then turn a made hand into a bluff on the turn.


Title: Re: QQ on paired board
Post by: MC on April 20, 2010, 05:51:50 PM
Would it be a different decision if it was a rainbow board?

yes, even idiots dont peel a 3b light, donk/c the flop then turn a made hand into a bluff on the turn.

Okie dokie, I felt like I had to call largely because of the flush draw...


Title: Re: QQ on paired board
Post by: Rupert on April 20, 2010, 06:26:14 PM
id say PPs mroe likely than flush draws but Jx most likely of all!


Title: Re: QQ on paired board
Post by: Moskvich on April 20, 2010, 06:50:39 PM
Would it be a different decision if it was a rainbow board?

yes, even idiots dont peel a 3b light, donk/c the flop then turn a made hand into a bluff on the turn.

In these games I'm not sure, ridiculous as it seems. He's got it most of the time here I think.

Also I don't think he needs to know what a range is to be aware that our range is strong here. He may well only 3-bet QQ+ himself, so a lot of the time he doesn't expect us to be folding. Very villain dependent of course, but I think I probably let this go a good chunk of the time.


Title: Re: QQ on paired board
Post by: MANTIS01 on April 20, 2010, 09:58:23 PM
Villain's strat is quite haphazard so I don't know how you can pin that down to just strength. I don't know why villain would weak lead a tp hand on the flop or why he'd just ejaculate his chips in at the sight of the gin turn card. Senseless strat wide range imo. Hero can play A-K this way so villain can still figure he's got FE.


Title: Re: QQ on paired board
Post by: Rupert on April 22, 2010, 01:19:44 AM
results?


Title: Re: QQ on paired board
Post by: MC on April 23, 2010, 01:09:07 AM
results?

Jc Tc

Sighaments, wp Rupert...


Title: Re: QQ on paired board
Post by: Donko on April 23, 2010, 08:06:15 AM
Fold.


Title: Re: QQ on paired board
Post by: Murph1984 on April 23, 2010, 01:37:08 PM
Would it be a different decision if it was a rainbow board?

yes, even idiots dont peel a 3b light, donk/c the flop then turn a made hand into a bluff on the turn.

Okie dokie, I felt like I had to call largely because of the flush draw...

I think if the guy is going to donk with the flush draw then he is very likely just to ship it in once you rr on the flop.


Title: Re: QQ on paired board
Post by: MC on April 23, 2010, 01:58:01 PM
Fold.

Lolz

Easy game when you can see the cards innit?