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Whilst most on here have been basking in the glory of titles or promotion at Chelsea, Man U, Newcastle, Norwich and Leeds there is a massive battle going on to stay in the Championship between 4 sides.  With Plymouth and Peterborough already relegated there is 1 place to be filled between Sheffield Weds, Crystal Palace, Watford and Scunthorpe.

19 Scunthorpe 43 -21 50
20 Watford 43 -13 48
21 Crystal Palace 44 -3 47
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22 Sheff Wed 44 -19 46

Relegation odds:

Sheff Wed 4/6
C Palace 13/8
Watford 7/1
Scunthorpe 66/1

Remaining fixture:
Tonight
QPR v Watford
Scunthorpe v Reading

Saturday
Cardiff v Sheff Wed
Doncaster v Scunthorpe
Watford v Reading

Monday
C Palace v WBA

Last day
Coventry v Watford
Scunthorpe v N Forest
Sheff Wed v C Palace


I know there are a few Sheffield boys on here, but not sure about any from Watford or Scunny, but lets keep this thread going until relegation is sorted with some friendly banter and decent opinions.

For me personally I see it going to a last game shoot out between Wednesday and Palace (already have my ticket) as I don’t think either of those teams will win their next match.
Watford are certainly not safe though and defeat tonight will see their odds drop significantly in my opinion.

Whatever happens it is going to be a nervous couple of weeks  ;scarymoment;

Palace down IMO! Gonna hinge on last game IMO!

I think we (Wednesday) are down. We won't beat Cardiff so best case scenario we go into the final day knowing a win will keep us up and i think we'll only draw. I'll probably go to the game. 2 seasons ago we needed to win to stay up and we did it but i don't feel as confident this time around. That was Dion Dublin's last game. It was a great atmosphere and one of my favourite football days actually.

Are Palace going to be out of administration by the start of next season?

Sheff Wed v C Palace what a huge game

Having seen all of these 1 or 2 times this season live I can safely say Wednesday are the worst of the remaining 4 but last game at home in front of a big crowd I fancy them to beat a young Palace team

I think Palace might go.

Please let it be Watford

Good luck Eagles and Owls

Good luck Watford

I hope Wednesday go down, apologies to Josedinho.

Many Wednesday supporting friends of mine seem to care more about Leeds losing than their own team winning all season, when we are usually not bothered about them in any way.

They have their wish now though, i hope they go down.

Also because its another Yorkshire derby for us next year in League One.

Im a Sheff Utd fan that has Weds as my 2nd team so not got the vitriol in me that'rivals' are supposed to have.

I fear for Weds and the fixtures look to have fallen badly for them. Palace play at home to a West Brom team that could be on its hols already as they are up and have nowt to play for now. Weds have to go to Cardiff who need to win to have a chance of getting above Forest for 3rd place which should be an advantage but even if Cardiff do rest some players I think Weds are so bad they will struggle to get anything there anyway.

I was in Sheffield on Sunday and the comms and radio analyst were all talking about the last game decider against Palace but the way I see it Weds could be down this weekend as a point for Watford will be enough given their better goal difference if Weds do get beaten at Cardiff.  Its not a big price that Watford get a point either tonight or Saturday and Weds lose at Cardiff meaning a Forest win next Monday all but relegates Weds.

I cant bet it coz I want them to stay up but 4/6 seems a decent price given the poor form they are in.

You "support" Peterborough

lol at your promotion confidence...

Last nights matches saw Scunthorpe score 2 late goals to secure a draw and their safety with a draw against Reading, and Watford lose 1-0 at QPR.
So it is now a 3 horse 'race' for the final spot.
Bet365 are the only bookies with odds for the relegation spot and strangely go 15/2 on Watford despite their defeat last night and they are only 13/2 on Betfair!!!

20 Watford 44 -14 48
21 Crystal Palace 44 -3 47
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22 Sheff Wed 44 -19 46

Relegation odds:

Sheff Wed 4/6
C Palace 13/8
Watford 15/2

Tighty, our team is not that young - our expected strongest line up would only include 1 player under the age of 26, and that would be if Clyne played in place of Butterfield.  6 of the starting line up are in their 30's!!

BS;DR

What does that mean?

think it means bullshit, don't read.

i think we will get a result at cardiff. up the owls

lol,I hope it does mean that. Prob one of the most pointless post on here.

Hopefully they will get something at Cardiff, will just be good to get a chance at home in the last game but I got a bad feeling that this weekends fixtures have fallen badly. Do you still get to the games? Ive seen 5 or 6 earlier in the season and they looked ok in a few of those so its disappointing to be in this position now.

been to like 8 away games this year but hillsborough only once or twice including sunday. Johnson is our only player who can create something but has a touch like a pinball flipper.

Last game I saw was the Plymouth home game and they seemed certain to climb away from trouble there. Whenever I see Esajas play he looks one of the most skillfull players and has some pace but his end product is usually awful. He seems to have fallen out of favour at the mo tho.

Maybe a glimmer of hope for the Owls tonight. West Brom manager says he wants the team to break their record seasonal points total so should pick a strong and motivated team tonight.

I know Palace's need is greater than WBA's, but still a little surprised they're faves

BOING BOING

cmon now, one win to stay up.

Still think we're going down but nice to have it to play for

You'll beat them Saturday.

Danns suspended for Sunday now?

cmon wednesday one time

my one time has officially been sent to wednesday. they can make better use of it than I can

Watched Sky sports news last night and they were saying unless buyer found soon for palace they cannot offord past the next month. If palace win at weekend and stay up then fold next month will Wed stay up? or one more go up from div 1?

Precedent is an extra team stays up

Live on BBC1 too...

Is that tue mate?

Yep, announced this morning...  Even as a complete neutral looking forward to these two...

Weds V Palace 1pm - BBC1
Blackpool V B City 1pm - Sky sports

Interested in hearing what other people would do in this situation - not a huge amount of money so not overly concerned, more interested in other peoples views.

I managed to trade Palace to get relegated on Betfair so currently have a book of
Sheff Wed relegated - +£65
Palace relegated - +£2.70

What would people do here:
1) Lay off to equal win on both sides (about £38)
2) Leave it and be even happier when my team stay up  ;)
3) Lay off to have all profit on Palace getting relegated (about £90)

Option 3

3 is win win, I'm happy and you've got cash

LOL - I used to like you Gatso

Option 3.

Then you are either extatic if Palace stay up, or absolutely devastated but 90 sheets richer if they dont.

Struggling to buy tickets for this. It's a good job we don't sell out often.
The website isn't coping and i love it when the phone rings a few times and then disconnects

This is the best option, but I'd consider doing something about that £2.70 of potential dirty money. What you gonna do with that, buy a consoliatory grande vanilla latte from Starbucks?

That, or use it to put a bid in to buy the club

At least the coffee would be fairly traded.  ;D

WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Finally got through. "selling like hot cakes" i was told.

GL to both sets of fans in this one, im on the fence but if your forcing me to pick Matt il take CP to drop so the mighty whites can have an extra derby at Elland Rd next season!

Thats quite a far derby that mate! Since when have palace been in Yorkshire?

We are going up............................and you know it boy!

I feel sick.

Come on Wednesday.

this... got them as part of my accumulator...

Just realised this is live on the BBC, fantastic news.

Would rather watch this than Liverpool v Chelsea, why? because the emotion will be 100% full on as it is a massive deal this one.  Loads at stake.

Was gonna watch Blackpool v Bristol City, seeing as we will most likely play them in the Playoffs, but this is a must see IMO.

FWIW, I think Palace will hang on for a draw.

Good luck both, you will need it I feel.

plz run good one time.

let's gogogo wednesday

Feeling it a bit for both teams. Have been there, at Stoke (whose fans treated us appallingly on the day, and will get theirs some day lol) and we went down.

Whoever loses, there are brighter times ahead.

Really hope Palace stay up. Obv wouldn't be in this mess if it wasn't for the points deduction

2 birds of prey,1 meal = palace stay up IMO

norrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr palace are winning...

1st goal in 19 games

1-1

norrr. so sick that the goal that keeps palace up is scored by ambrose

congrats anyway matt, flushy and others

anyone see the CP player who had his shirt ripped off and that guy in the hat trying to punch him in the back of the head??

rd kd, diff cl.

Pretty gutted but we were poor

A sickener, but it has to be said there is very little quality (on today's evidence) in the Wednesday team at all. Ambrose was different class today, at times

Lets hope Irvine shakes things up in the Summer, and you can have a good run at the top two straight away next year. Leicester and Norwich have shown it can be done

gg RJT

It was very hit and hope and really i'm surprised we scored 2. Can't really grumble at not winning. At one point we had 5 players playing as strikers and they must have all been less than 10m apart. Will be interesting to see who goes. Jeffers is a cert and Clarke probably would have gone if we'd stayed up but he actually may do well in League One and has done before. Pretty sure Grant will be sold.

Ambrose was brilliant. Must be nice to be able to afford a player like him.....oh wait

There's always another season

Unreal, also the Palace player was trying to shake off the attentions of the steward too, then Dougie Freedman (I think) calls a halt to the BBC interview to protect the players.

Just so relieved that is all over and we are still in the CCC.
Those last 8 minutes were the longest i have ever known at a football match, it seemed like wave after wave of attack, free kicks, corners, long throws, dont think i could have taken much more.
Absolutely tremendous support from Palace, so loud throughout and didnt stop singing.  Wednesday were loud when they scored for a few minutes but apart from that was quite surprised how little they got behind their team.
2 down sides - the idiot steward that was popping everyones ballons pre kick off, including confiscating a full bag of balloons from a kid who must have been about 10 - he didnt have as much luck 10 minutes before kick off when it was packed and everyone just keep knocking them away from him.
And also the crowd trouble, the biggest disapointment for me was that we couldnt celebrate with the players.  I partly blame the police for letting the handful of palace supporters onto the pitch in the first place, but the reaction of the wednesday fans was totally out of order - especially towards Clint Hill.  I mean 50 blokes or more chasing a footballer that had spent time consoling your players down the tunnel - WTF!!!
As we left the ground thousands of wednesday fans had come round to the palace end and it was taking police on horses to keep them back.  Quite a scary experience when you have your 11 year old son with you.  Jackets zipped up, scarfs tucked away, made the walk to the car, passing scuffles, arrests and 1 bloke who saw a car with a palace sticker in the back and told his mate to throw a brick through the window!!!
Just glad to get out of there and on the way home.

Now the real battle starts to get someone to buy the club so we will still be here next season.

had to delete my posts.

What was out of order was palace fans running onto the pitch to rub it in our faces, everyone of them deserved to me put on their arses.

Thats bollocks mate - they ran on the pitch to celebrate with the players - not one of them was 'rubbing it in' to your supporters.
At no point during the game did we sing anything towards your fans taking the piss for you going down.

lol they ran on to celebrate with the team, not to rub it in your faces, clown

Away fans running onto the pitch = inciting trouble IMO!! Especially in Sheffield!

there was certainly a bit of both. I hate any fans who go onto the pitch, they have no right to be there.

Away fans on the pitch are almost always going to incite trouble.

On a sort of sidenote will Darren Ambrose stay at Palace he's had an outstanding season.

A lot depends on whether a takeover happens in the next couple of weeks.  If not then players are going to have to be sold and Ambrose will be one of those likely to move on.  He has 1 year left on his contract as far as i know and there is no reason to believe he would want to move unless he is told he has to.

His goals return for a midfielder has been exceptional but he would be about 5th on the list of players i would hate to be sold.

Speroni, Danns are likely ones, and ill take a potshot... Clyne?

The reaction of a few of the wednesday fans was pathetic. No space for that in football, and no excuse for that
Having said that, the palace fans should have known better than to invade the pitch away from home when the opposition had been sent down and the police/stewards should have seen it all coming when it became likely that palace would win - no one should have been able to get past them. The fact that it happened again at Luton the next day shows that it is not a problem isolated to any particular club, but is due to the fact that anytime you get 20/30/40000 people in one place there will always be plenty of pricks. The police need to be more prepared and organised in order to stop this BS.

I was also pissed off with the wednesday fans who invaded the pitch in order to dance around and boot balls into the net - WTF was that about? If they don't care they shouldn't be there and especially shouldn't be anywhere near the pitch.

Wednesday til I die - so so gutted.

Support wise Wednesday were pretty poor but i'd put this down to nerves and the fact that we knew we were down. Thought we were okay after Palace's 2nd went in though when everybody knew we weren't going to do it. From where i was sat Palace were very loud to begin with and after both goals but pretty quiet between the equaliser and their 2nd goal and almost silent after Wednesday's 2nd.
All teams have fans who are idiots. Running on to an oppositions pitch isn't the brightest move at the best of times but when they've been relegated is just stupid. All the players were infront of the fans anyway so if they wanted to join the fans they could have. There wasn't much need to run accross the pitch.
Pretty much saw it like this -
Away fans/idiots invade pitch
Home fans/idiots invade pitch to clear away fans off it
fans/idiots clash - not arsed who gets hit to be honest, if you entered the pitch then whichever side you're on you should expect trouble
Palace players leave the field - Clint Hill stays
Away fans/idiots flee the pitch - Clint Hill left on the pitch with Home fans/idiots
[ ] He runs off
[X] He acts hard
It doesn't look good when it's just Hill on his own but if all we have is 50 idiots i'd take that. Two wrongs don't make a right but if no Palace fans go on to the pitch then no Wednesday fans do either.

Speroni is a bloody legend!

No 1 without any shadow of a doubt is Speroni
2nd - neil danns
3rd - Clyne
Then Paddy McCarthy and Darren Ambrose - McCarthy has been immense since he came back into the team after injury for the last few matches.  Ambrose has had one of those seasons - I'm not 100% sure he will do it again next season.

Whoever goes, those players have shown in the last 3 months that they are all commited to the football club, so will not begrudge any of them moving to bigger clubs and or to secure their own futures.

Football (Offences) Act 1991
1991 CHAPTER 19
An Act to make further provision with respect to disorderly conduct by persons attending football matches; and for connected purposes.

[27th June 1991]

4.Going onto the playing area .It is an offence for a person at a designated football match to go onto the playing area, or any area adjacent to the playing area to which spectators are not generally admitted, without lawful authority or lawful excuse (which shall be for him to prove).

Sheffield Wednesday have announced that any fans identified in the recent trouble will be banned from the ground for life and will never watch Sheffield Wednesday again.

So far 23000 have turned themselves in.