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Your thoughts on this would be appreciated:

3rd hand of the day last Saturday, blinds are 25/50

folded to me in mid position with  Ts Th, I raise to 125. I get called by the player to my left and then 3bet to 350 by the small blind. I call as does the guy on my left.

flop comes

 9c Td 4c

sb checks I bet 400 other guy folds and sb calls

Turn:

 8d

sb bets 1500

what do I do?

BTW we both started the hand with 10,000

Raise to 4200 snap a jam

just my view but you should be betting more on flop atleast 800

as played i call the 1500 if the board doesnt pair ditch on river

Please explain...

err, ok. what do you think he 3b with pre?

agree with iron on your flop bet though del, too small

An initial glance made me think the same as Iron - but then thinking about the 3b pre made me change it.

Very small chance he's playing a flush draw this way
Small chance he's playing the straight this way
Much larger chance he plays an over pair or a lower set this way

3x pre

Flop fine

Turn raise to 3500 and look to get it in

Never folding unless the river comes as a nightmare

Not much you can do here Del, just a nasty cooler.

I agree with betting slightly larger on the flop to make it more costly for him to call with his draw.

400 into 1100?

oh yeah - forgot about 3rd player - ok make it 700-800 then

sill never folding

some really weird lines by APAT villains in these threads - 3bet pre c/c flop, lead turn - hmm.

bet slightly bigger on flop and now i would raise but not sure what the hell he has but i am not folding top set in a 3bet pot to anyone. Is he really gonna 3bet pre from the sb with JQ

make it 3.8k and don't fold.

these villains have been so weird that he prob has AA and wants to mask the  strength of his hand after 3 betting pre he check/calls to "make it look like AK", then re-ups the aggro on the turn!

never folding this hand.

150 pre

800ish on the flop (please tell me 400 was a typo there...)

4kish on the turn, call a shove

lol com iron

sorry thought it was the calling station not 3b that stayed

still lol

150 pre a bit nit picky surely???

Perhaps, but it extends to the next few levels too where I'd rather 3x than 2.5x.

Ok, I'll explain the 400 flop bet.

The guy on my left (who folded) I know, likes to muck about when deep and I thought woul re-raise any sign if weakness. I thought the small bet would encourage him enough. It didn't.

It seems the consencus is to re-raise and call a shove.

It seems I thought the same as everyone else regarding the sb's 3bet

I shoved thinking I would get a call from a smaller set or overpair, or maybe a suited AK.

He tanked and nearly folded his  6s 7s!!

Thanks for all your opinions.

would you of posted if he ha AA?

Pretty certain he plays  Ad Ac  8d 8h  Ac Kc the same. He turned up with  6s 7s? What a lagtard.

But if he had AA Delboy wouldn't have to question whether he got his analysis wrong

The fact he tanked 6-7 put me on tilt

I don't like the shove,your actually giving them hands a chance to get away since your never bluffing here so early on whereas if you raise you may induce a shove by overpairs since it's a drawy board a people can't fold aces.Tough cooler anyway unlucky.

i doubt this. shocked if he ever has an overpair here. more likely just to have  Ad Qd or  Ad Kd and i guess some villains might show up with 88 or 99

i make it 4k/snap a jam

rofl at results tho

all of this

Christ! The discussion now gets interesting after I give the result!

Would I have posted if he had AA? Well yes, I thought it was an interesting hand following the analysis of other APAT hands this week, and the assumptions that are made (including by me) about APAT players.

I hate results orientated pha posts but can't see much of it on this one,what you refferring to ?

Obv Pleno just thought it was a bad beat whinge

the results are surprising and im sure make up a small % of his range...

they therefore require little discussion, just plenty of lols