Title: Poker Player Sues Rabbi Post by: TightEnd on May 11, 2010, 10:13:17 AM in today's press
Andrew Feldman had already lost £700,000 playing poker, before he turned to Simon Nissim to make investments on his behalf, a court heard. Mr Nissim offered to place spread bets for Mr Feldman on the Dow Jones index and give him any winnings. Mr Feldman, 22, agreed to cover any losses and ended up with a bill for £140,000. Now he is asking deputy High Court judge Richard Snowden QC to set aside a statutory demand for the money served on him by the 34-year-old rabbi. Jonathan Lewis, representing Mr Feldman at the High Court in London, said the two used to be friends and his client ''looked up to and placed trust'' in the rabbi. He said the two had agreed or understood that all wins would go to Mr Feldman and he would indemnify Mr Nissim for all losses. But while Mr Nissim placed bets for Mr Feldman during two weeks in October 2008, he also placed a ''considerable number of spread bets on his own behalf using the same spread betting account'', said Mr Lewis. Mr Feldman had argued that he did not accept that all the bets had been placed on his behalf and that he had never authorised the ''huge volume'' of bets. He said he had agreed to four or five bets a session but Mr Nissim had placed 77 bets in a four-hour period which he had never instructed him to do. Richard Ritchie, representing Mr Nissim who now works in New York and was not in court, said it was Mr Feldman's decision to try to win back his poker losses by spread betting and had told Mr Nissim he was prepared to lose up to £200,000. Mr Feldman was told after each session that he had lost but told Mr Nissim to carry on, said Mr Ritchie. ''This was obviously because this was not his money that was at risk. Now that the account has come to an end and it is time to pay up, Mr Feldman is refusing to do so on the basis that Mr Nissim has somehow cheated him. That is absurd. Why would he wish to cheat Mr Feldman?'' He said Mr Feldman was now claiming he was ignorant about what was going on and did not stay in close contact with Mr Nissim. ''A person who has just lost a fortune at poker and is seeking desperately to recover the situation would not take this totally detached attitude.'' Mr Feldman, speaking after the judge had reserved his ruling to a later date, said he met the rabbi through a Jewish charity in Hendon, north London. He said the Mr Nissim approached him when he heard about his losses and offered to place the spread bets for him. Mr Feldman, who lives in Bushey, Herts, said his losses at poker were never as high as had been said in court and he had never been in debt through gambling. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/wirecopy/7693382/Gambler-left-with-140000-bill-after-rabbi-invested-his-money.html Title: Re: Spread too thin? Post by: Doobs on May 11, 2010, 10:37:43 AM Is this a thinly disccguised appeal for character witnesses? ;popcorn;
Title: Re: Spread too thin? Post by: kinboshi on May 11, 2010, 11:45:23 AM Oy vey!
Title: Re: Spread too thin? Post by: boldie on May 11, 2010, 12:10:46 PM He should have gone to this guy;
http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/b-j-curley-wolverhampton-a-w-agapanthus-savaronola-jeu-de-roseau-lands-huge-punt-at-towcester/714692/top/ Title: Re: Spread too thin? Post by: kinboshi on May 11, 2010, 12:25:49 PM He should have gone to this guy; http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=3314 FYP Title: Re: Spread too thin? Post by: boldie on May 11, 2010, 12:31:05 PM He should have gone to this guy; http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=3314 FYP lol...if he had he'd nto be in court now ...just sitting around the attic praying that the flight to Malaga won't be cancelled :) Title: Re: Spread too thin? Post by: cia260895 on May 11, 2010, 12:42:11 PM He should have gone to this guy; http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=3314 FYP lol...if he had he'd nto be in court now ...just sitting around the attic praying that the flight to Malaga won't be cancelled :) ;hattip; Title: Poker Player Sues Rabbi Post by: GreekStein on May 14, 2010, 01:36:33 PM http://www.telegraph.co.uk/wirecopy/7693382/Gambler-left-with-140000-bill-after-rabbi-invested-his-money.html
I lol'd Title: Re: Poker Player Sues Rabbi Post by: byronkincaid on May 14, 2010, 01:38:29 PM welcome to last week! :)
Title: Re: Poker Player Sues Rabbi Post by: GreekStein on May 14, 2010, 01:39:25 PM where was it posted byron?
Title: Re: Poker Player Sues Rabbi Post by: redsimon on May 14, 2010, 01:39:52 PM http://www.telegraph.co.uk/wirecopy/7693382/Gambler-left-with-140000-bill-after-rabbi-invested-his-money.html I lol'd last week fyp Title: Re: Spread too thin? Post by: redsimon on May 14, 2010, 01:40:20 PM BUMP
Title: Re: Poker Player Sues Rabbi Post by: Laxie on May 14, 2010, 01:40:48 PM Can't remember where (that's gatso's job) but was deffo posted lately.
Title: Re: Poker Player Sues Rabbi Post by: Girgy85 on May 14, 2010, 01:41:34 PM here mate.... http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=47947.0
Title: Re: Poker Player Sues Rabbi Post by: TightEnd on June 10, 2010, 03:48:23 PM he UK High Court today ordered poker pro Andrew Feldman to pay Simon Nissim £136,000 which the rabbi lost spread betting on behalf of Feldman according to Independent.co.uk.
He also ordered Feldman, who had taken the case to have a statutory demand for the money set aside, to pay £20,000 costs in the case. Nissim argued that Feldman had agreed to indemnify him against any loses incurred as a result of the spread betting agreement but Feldman counter argued that Nissim placed too many bets (up to 77 in one session) and had acted outside the scope of their initial arrangement. The judge ruled that, “The undisputed facts provide more than sufficient grounds upon which to conclude that Mr Feldman agreed to indemnify Mr Nissim and acknowledged that the amounts claimed by Mr Nissim fell within the scope of the agreed indemnity.” “Mr Feldman suggests that if the net result had been a positive one (on spread betting), Mr Nissim would have claimed the bets for himself; but that because net losses were made, Mr Nissim ‘had retrospectively sought to allocate to me bets that he in fact made on his own behalf’.” He dismissed this suggestion as “inherently unlikely” and awarded in favour of Nissim who now works in New York. Title: Re: Poker Player Sues Rabbi Post by: Karabiner on June 10, 2010, 06:19:24 PM Just in case any of you do not fully undrstand the title "rabbi", it is roughly the equivalent of a doctorate in religeous studies.
It should not be assumed that a rabbi is the leader of a community, just that he is qualified to do so. Title: Re: Poker Player Sues Rabbi Post by: paulhouk03 on June 11, 2010, 12:59:50 AM Losing 700k bum hunting
Lol Title: Re: Poker Player Sues Rabbi Post by: Moskvich on June 11, 2010, 02:01:59 AM Quote “Mr Feldman suggests that if the net result had been a positive one (on spread betting), Mr Nissim would have claimed the bets for himself; but that because net losses were made, Mr Nissim ‘had retrospectively sought to allocate to me bets that he in fact made on his own behalf’.” He dismissed this suggestion as “inherently unlikely” It does seem inherently unlikely that this is "inherently" unlikely. |