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After a wierd day of unsually strange play i had 27k at one stage due to a lucky double up courtesy of Chris Brammer,My table image was quite bad really an i tryed to tighten up but just couldnt manged it! The villlian was baktual mohhamed who was playig a passive limping check call statergy an was hitting like machine! In my final hand my chip stack had dwindled down to 18.5k wt blinds at 200 400.Once again he limped in early to mid postion an i found   4d 5d an made it 1300 to go. i was seating to his left an only he called wt a stack of 35k. Flop was  9d 6d 5h an he did his usual check an i made it 1500 to go, he had only check raised once today where he floped toppair an a flush draw but wt this board was unlikely same sort of hand,alas he riased to 4500 where i thought 4 a sec an decided he had 910 or ace 9 suited an thought i could win pot here or gamble 2 hit my flush draw as the way he was playing throughout the day he would never raise wt just a flush draw. so i pushed an he insta called! He flipped over  7c 8c putting me behind but with still almost 40% chance of winng the hand obv i did not hit wt  Qs 6h completing the board wt anither exit at leats this time i wasnt drawing dead. Once again the ? i ask is did i need to go to war with a player in form an with my game being a bit loose today was my statergy to accumalate chips early than my usual patient stlye wrong in the way i played this hand ? Thoughts please from my dear friends ?

The fact he's 'in form' or 'running good' shouldn't really be a consideration on how you play.  Or do you mean he's playing very well at the moment?

It's certainly not the worst hand to get your money in first, and you are going to be in with a decent shout against virtually any hand other than 7d 8d

basically everyhand he played he won as was hitting everyflop or river so hard to say whether u call it playing well if u r a card rack! But i guess the point im trying to make dont u sometimes have to avoid players in form for a while till there lucky streak ends !

I don't know why you're raising this pre when you know he's gonna call, especially when you don't have a good image for bluffing on later streets. Someone round the back can still pounce on this situation pre as well. Can you really make money with this hand in this spot? seems like frustration to me.

I agree.

I've played few times with this player and he's a pretty solid player but he also believes that if you are in form you should at least see the flop.

If the guy's getting lucky he'll prob make poor maths calls cos his confidence of hitting/being good is high, so you can't shake him off a hand so easily, so you shouldn't raise a hand that's highly likely you're gonna have to bluff with. So not so much about the lucky streak but how that lucky streak is affecting the way villain plays imo.

Pete it's probably best in future not to type the result of the hand as it effects people comments on the hand.

I don't mind the raise pre to iso and c-bet any flop. The fact that he limp calls with 78 tells me how bad he is and you're gonna win the hand on a lot of flops.

If he's as tight as you say he is I am probably not looking to get it in when he check/raises the flop as he's repping bigger flush draws/sets/straights.

Well you didnt raise 5d4d to fold it when you hit a flop like this did you?

Thanks george wasnt sure i should post his hand! Hes not a bad player hes quite intelligent but his stlye was limp call , an to say he was defintely not tight but ok to be polite liked to call alot wt all sorts of hands in or out of postion. Agree maybe impatience set in but all day long i was trying to isolate wt no success hense why i say with a ? should we be avoiding players in form ? Think just once agian similar to my ukipt exit my hand was chosen against wrong opp!

Pete ar eyou serious about this "avoiding players in form" comment?

lol ! no wasnt 100% serious just know when i get check raised flop forgot to really read what hands he could have here ! so maybe i should of taken more time but i think im happy wt my hand to gamble with ? what u think ?

Pete you know being 'in form / lucky etc' shouldn't be a consideration

I should have put more thought into my reply but as Mantis said going against someone inform/lucky, you need to know how the hand is going to play out and if the villain is going to call no matter what then a bluff wont work.

dont iso an unpredictable player with a hand that rarely flops good with stacks this shallow.

all this waffle about form, i dunno what to say about that.

Ignore this kid, iso'ing here is fine.

Yep, iso'ing is fine because we are deep enough, our image is solid enough, and villain folds often enough. Oh wait, none of that is true.

lolllllll

i was waiting for someone to write that.


hes alive!

Problem with trying to iso this type of player is if the flop comes say K 8 2 rainbow and you have obv missed totally but he has a little piece with  8c 9c its difficult to shake him off.

You have obv raised with the intention of taking it down on the flop vs the range of shit hes limp calling with. In this situation hes almost certainly gonna peel your flop bet and what you gonna do on the turn. Yove pretty much got the dream flop which you happy to get the lot in with, but in most situations it gonna be dependant on you firing multiple barrels to get him off 2nd 3rd or maybe 4th pair. When your relativley shallow your pretty much gonna be putting your tourny life on a mindless shove and hope that he hasnt caught enough to call your bet.

Maybe if you have some kind of tell on the guy to gague his strength etc it becomes easier but its still a guessing game unless your gonna give up after one barrell which against this opponent will rarely be enough and is a spew.