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Title: Coventry GUKPT hands
Post by: MC on May 24, 2010, 06:32:14 PM
Hand 1.

Blinds are 500/1000 (100). Hijack who is a new player to the table and we assume a live-player donk open limps. Blatch isolates in the cutoff to 5.1k. We have 88 on the button with a ~70k stack. Blatch has ~45k, limper has ~30k.

Fold, call or 3-bet?

I think calling is a mistake because effective stacks aren't deep enough. I think it's okay to just fold here? Although we know he is capable of isolating here fairly wide, Blatch appears to have been playing good cards up to this point.

Anyway I call (oops). So does limper. Flop is K62 rainbow. It checks to us. We bet/check?

(if Blatch reads this, I said I had 99 but I liiiieddddd)


Hand 2.

2nd hand of Day Two (new starting table). 600/1200 (100), we have ~55k. We pick up 77 in the cutoff and open to 2800. The small blind, who we assume is a good young player, 3bets to 7400, with a similar stack, perhaps just having us covered.

Standard to just call here 3 bet a decent option?

Flop comes down Q35 rainbow. Villain leads for ~8.5k.

We call.

River brings the J. Villain dwells and moves all in. I obv fold, don't see a way around this, though I couldn't help thinking he might have KT.


Hand 3.

The same villain as in hand 2. We now realise villain is Toby Lewis. We've made a complete fool of ourselves by not recognising him, despite people calling him Toby, because we have never seen him without a cap before and he looks different (he was pretty bemused when I asked what his surname was, considering we've talked numerous times in the past lol).

We have ~50k at 800/1600 (200) and make it 3800 in the cutoff with AQs. The small blind flat calls playing a ~30k stack, we put him on a marginal hand having watched him make a similar call with 55 when he had way too short a stack to go set-mining.

Toby has a very similar stack to us and moves all-in from the big-blind. After playing tight since Hand #2, I've been pretty active in the last two rounds.

I feel like our hand plays well against Toby's squeeze shove range, but having only committed 3.8k to the hand, and with Toby's shove being for about 5x the pot, it feels like quite a big call to make with AQs. On the other hand, average stack is ~75k. I felt there was a good chance we're flipping at worst, and was only really sweating AK.


Title: Re: Coventry GUKPT hands
Post by: Blatch on May 24, 2010, 06:38:14 PM
Hand 1.

Blinds are 500/1000 (100). Hijack who is a new player to the table and we assume a live-player donk open limps. Blatch isolates in the cutoff to 5.1k. We have 88 on the button with a ~70k stack. Blatch has ~45k, limper has ~30k.

Fold, call or 3-bet?

I think calling is a mistake because effective stacks aren't deep enough. I think it's okay to just fold here? Although we know he is capable of isolating here fairly wide, Blatch appears to have been playing good cards up to this point.

Anyway I call (oops). Flop is Q62 rainbow. It checks to us. We bet/check?

(if Blatch reads this, I said I had 99 but I liiiieddddd)



Hand 2.

2nd hand of Day Two (new starting table). 600/1200 (100), we have ~55k. We pick up 77 in the cutoff and open to 2800. The small blind, who we assume is a good young player, 3bets to 7400, with a similar stack, perhaps just having us covered.

Standard to just call here 3 bet a decent option?

Flop comes down Q35 rainbow. Villain leads for ~8.5k.

We call.

River brings the J. Villain dwells and moves all in. I obv fold, don't see a way around this, though I couldn't help thinking he might have KT.


Hand 3.

The same villain as in hand 2. We now realise villain is Toby Lewis. We've made a complete fool of ourselves by not recognising him, despite people calling him Toby, because we have never seen him without a cap before and he looks different (he was pretty bemused when I asked what his surname was, considering we've talked numerous times in the past lol).

We have ~50k at 800/1600 (200) and make it 3800 in the cutoff with AQs. The small blind flat calls playing a ~30k stack, we put him on a marginal hand having watched him make a similar call with 55 when he had way too short a stack to go set-mining.

Toby has a very similar stack and moves all-in from the big-blind. After playing tight since Hand #2, I've been pretty active in the last two rounds.

I feel like our hand plays well against Toby's squeeze shove range, but having only committed 3.8k to the hand, and with Toby's shove being for about 5x the pot, it feels like quite a big call to make with AQs. On the other hand, average stack is ~75k. I felt there was a good chance we're flipping at worst, and was only really sweating AK.

You may want to tell them who it is that limped and also his chat when he sat down and the fact its last level of the day


Title: Re: Coventry GUKPT hands
Post by: Rupert on May 24, 2010, 06:38:31 PM
Was hoping you wouldn't post hand 3 because IMO it's a pretty straightforward call vs Toby!

Hand 1 I don't know much about Blatch but I assume he's ok, and that he realises the limper is a fish and likely to call.  It's a pretty damn big iso size, so I think folding is the line.  Flop was Kxx IIRC, i'd def check back, isn't a great deal to protect from and also it's fairly suspicious why he hasn't cbet a fairly dry board.

Hand 2 I think calling is worst option even tho we IP, hand just doesn't flop very well and gonna have to shut down a ton.  I guess since you didn't know it was Toby at the time i'd just fold pre, but if you know it's him i'd jam :D


Title: Re: Coventry GUKPT hands
Post by: Rupert on May 24, 2010, 06:39:15 PM
Oh god yeah the guy who limped was quite clearly doing his best to bust out before the end of the day so Blatch is basically never light there and probs limps behind with medium PPs.  Has to be a pretty clear fold pre I think!


Title: Re: Coventry GUKPT hands
Post by: Blatch on May 24, 2010, 06:40:10 PM
Hand 1.

Blinds are 500/1000 (100). Hijack who is a new player to the table and we assume a live-player donk open limps. Blatch isolates in the cutoff to 5.1k. We have 88 on the button with a ~70k stack. Blatch has ~45k, limper has ~30k.

Fold, call or 3-bet?

I think calling is a mistake because effective stacks aren't deep enough. I think it's okay to just fold here? Although we know he is capable of isolating here fairly wide, Blatch appears to have been playing good cards up to this point.

Anyway I call (oops). Flop is Q62 rainbow. It checks to us. We bet/check?

(if Blatch reads this, I said I had 99 but I liiiieddddd)


Hand 2.

2nd hand of Day Two (new starting table). 600/1200 (100), we have ~55k. We pick up 77 in the cutoff and open to 2800. The small blind, who we assume is a good young player, 3bets to 7400, with a similar stack, perhaps just having us covered.

Standard to just call here 3 bet a decent option?

Flop comes down Q35 rainbow. Villain leads for ~8.5k.

We call.

River brings the J. Villain dwells and moves all in. I obv fold, don't see a way around this, though I couldn't help thinking he might have KT.


Hand 3.

The same villain as in hand 2. We now realise villain is Toby Lewis. We've made a complete fool of ourselves by not recognising him, despite people calling him Toby, because we have never seen him without a cap before and he looks different (he was pretty bemused when I asked what his surname was, considering we've talked numerous times in the past lol).

We have ~50k at 800/1600 (200) and make it 3800 in the cutoff with AQs. The small blind flat calls playing a ~30k stack, we put him on a marginal hand having watched him make a similar call with 55 when he had way too short a stack to go set-mining.

Toby has a very similar stack and moves all-in from the big-blind. After playing tight since Hand #2, I've been pretty active in the last two rounds.

I feel like our hand plays well against Toby's squeeze shove range, but having only committed 3.8k to the hand, and with Toby's shove being for about 5x the pot, it feels like quite a big call to make with AQs. On the other hand, average stack is ~75k. I felt there was a good chance we're flipping at worst, and was only really sweating AK.

Best Rub ive ever heard


Title: Re: Coventry GUKPT hands
Post by: MC on May 24, 2010, 06:47:15 PM
Was hoping you wouldn't post hand 3 because IMO it's a pretty straightforward call vs Toby!

Hand 1 I don't know much about Blatch but I assume he's ok, and that he realises the limper is a fish and likely to call.  It's a pretty damn big iso size, so I think folding is the line.  Flop was Kxx IIRC, i'd def check back, isn't a great deal to protect from and also it's fairly suspicious why he hasn't cbet a fairly dry board.

Hand 2 I think calling is worst option even tho we IP, hand just doesn't flop very well and gonna have to shut down a ton.  I guess since you didn't know it was Toby at the time i'd just fold pre, but if you know it's him i'd jam :D

Yeah this all sounds about right. Sigh, if only I could play like you before asking you how I should play :).

Blatch - not sure who the guy was tbh, though I have seen him around or whatever, and I didn't hear what he said either lol. I'm observant.


Title: Re: Coventry GUKPT hands
Post by: Blatch on May 24, 2010, 06:49:16 PM
Was hoping you wouldn't post hand 3 because IMO it's a pretty straightforward call vs Toby!

Hand 1 I don't know much about Blatch but I assume he's ok, and that he realises the limper is a fish and likely to call.  It's a pretty damn big iso size, so I think folding is the line.  Flop was Kxx IIRC, i'd def check back, isn't a great deal to protect from and also it's fairly suspicious why he hasn't cbet a fairly dry board.

Hand 2 I think calling is worst option even tho we IP, hand just doesn't flop very well and gonna have to shut down a ton.  I guess since you didn't know it was Toby at the time i'd just fold pre, but if you know it's him i'd jam :D

Yeah this all sounds about right. Sigh, if only I could play like you before asking you how I should play :).

Blatch - not sure who the guy was tbh, though I have seen him around or whatever, and I didn't hear what he said either lol. I'm observant.

It was Albert Sipiano, plays very similar to Ali Mallu (if you dont know Ali im gonna slap you).

He comes to table with 15 mins of last level of day to go and announces his back his hurting and his chips and going in plenty of times.


Title: Re: Coventry GUKPT hands
Post by: MC on May 24, 2010, 06:52:24 PM
Was hoping you wouldn't post hand 3 because IMO it's a pretty straightforward call vs Toby!

Hand 1 I don't know much about Blatch but I assume he's ok, and that he realises the limper is a fish and likely to call.  It's a pretty damn big iso size, so I think folding is the line.  Flop was Kxx IIRC, i'd def check back, isn't a great deal to protect from and also it's fairly suspicious why he hasn't cbet a fairly dry board.

Hand 2 I think calling is worst option even tho we IP, hand just doesn't flop very well and gonna have to shut down a ton.  I guess since you didn't know it was Toby at the time i'd just fold pre, but if you know it's him i'd jam :D

Yeah this all sounds about right. Sigh, if only I could play like you before asking you how I should play :).

Blatch - not sure who the guy was tbh, though I have seen him around or whatever, and I didn't hear what he said either lol. I'm observant.

It was Albert Sipiano, plays very similar to Ali Mallu (if you dont know Ali im gonna slap you).

He comes to table with 15 mins of last level of day to go and announces his back his hurting and his chips and going in plenty of times.

Ali Mall-who?

(laughs to self)

Yeah obv know him, though would expect him to raise in this kind of spot. Sigh @ me not hearing what Albert said.


Title: Re: Coventry GUKPT hands
Post by: LeKnave on May 24, 2010, 07:04:10 PM
hand 2, jam
hand 3, snap


Title: Re: Coventry GUKPT hands
Post by: Blatch on May 24, 2010, 07:06:50 PM
hand 2, jam

pre or on the flop?


Title: Re: Coventry GUKPT hands
Post by: LeKnave on May 24, 2010, 07:12:37 PM

pre sorry. against most ppl in a gukpt field its a fold. but tobys gonna be light here a very big % of the time.


Title: Re: Coventry GUKPT hands
Post by: Free_Rollin on May 24, 2010, 07:18:42 PM

lol, we never jam flop, surely? obvs pre.

edit: oh, answered too late.


Title: Re: Coventry GUKPT hands
Post by: MC on May 24, 2010, 07:30:13 PM

pre sorry. against most ppl in a gukpt field its a fold. but tobys gonna be light here a very big % of the time.

We don't know it's Toby though mate...


Title: Re: Coventry GUKPT hands
Post by: Blatch on May 24, 2010, 07:39:54 PM

pre sorry. against most ppl in a gukpt field its a fold. but tobys gonna be light here a very big % of the time.

We don't know it's Toby though mate...

Well we know its Toby but not Toby mcfkin Lewis


Title: Re: Coventry GUKPT hands
Post by: MC on May 24, 2010, 07:40:24 PM

pre sorry. against most ppl in a gukpt field its a fold. but tobys gonna be light here a very big % of the time.

We don't know it's Toby though mate...

Well we know its Toby but not Toby mcfkin Lewis

lol, exactly...


Title: Re: Coventry GUKPT hands
Post by: LeKnave on May 24, 2010, 08:06:25 PM

pre sorry. against most ppl in a gukpt field its a fold. but tobys gonna be light here a very big % of the time.

We don't know it's Toby though mate...

yeah ok, but we know its a good young player.


Title: Re: Coventry GUKPT hands
Post by: Dubai on May 24, 2010, 08:12:34 PM
Hand 1 as played bet flop
Hand 2 fold pre. As played fold turn.
Hand 3 easiest call ever but assume u was cold decked since the hand is here :(


Title: Re: Coventry GUKPT hands
Post by: GreekStein on May 24, 2010, 09:41:58 PM
hand 1 - fold
hand 2 - fold pre
hand 3 - meh. I don't hate either. I know Toby's going to jam wide but can't see him jamming 32+bbs with worse than AQ, though obv some pairs we're flipping with are in his range.

We must take into account that Toby is in form and lucky.


Title: Re: Coventry GUKPT hands
Post by: MANTIS01 on May 24, 2010, 11:44:09 PM
Hand 1 - bet 8.8k on the flop. And upgrading your hand from 88 to 99 is a fairly unambitious lie imo.
Hand 2 - Fold
Hand 3 - Call after folding hand 2


Title: Re: Coventry GUKPT hands
Post by: LeKnave on May 24, 2010, 11:55:41 PM
hand 3 - meh. I don't hate either. I know Toby's going to jam wide but can't see him jamming 32+bbs with worse than AQ, though obv some pairs we're flipping with are in his range.

i read it as he has a similar stack to the small blind. ~30K @ 800/1600.  if he has like 55k i fold.


Title: Re: Coventry GUKPT hands
Post by: MC on May 24, 2010, 11:59:14 PM
hand 3 - meh. I don't hate either. I know Toby's going to jam wide but can't see him jamming 32+bbs with worse than AQ, though obv some pairs we're flipping with are in his range.

i read it as he has a similar stack to the small blind. ~30K @ 800/1600.  if he has like 55k i fold.

Yeah sorry for being unclear, he has a similar stack to us, ~55k


Title: Re: Coventry GUKPT hands
Post by: AlexMartin on May 25, 2010, 08:52:54 PM
calling in hand 2 without a plan looks to be the worst play. AQS vs a lewis squeeze when we have 1/2 average chips. dont slowroll the poor guy imo.

hand 1 just fold pre.



Title: Re: Coventry GUKPT hands
Post by: GreekStein on May 25, 2010, 10:00:19 PM
AQS vs a lewis squeeze when we have 1/2 average chips. dont slowroll the poor guy imo.

Alex against an MC open (James is tightish) and a call what are you squeezing for over 30bbs?


Title: Re: Coventry GUKPT hands
Post by: celtic on May 25, 2010, 10:09:30 PM
Who is Toby Lewis?


Title: Re: Coventry GUKPT hands
Post by: 810ofclubs on May 25, 2010, 11:41:53 PM
Flop comes down Q35 rainbow. Villain leads for ~8.5k.

I think the flop was Q33ss i bet 9.3k and you called. Turn was either a 10 or a J non spade. I bet a commiting amount and u quickly folded.

This sound right?


Title: Re: Coventry GUKPT hands
Post by: Skgv on May 26, 2010, 12:44:57 AM
Flop comes down Q35 rainbow. Villain leads for ~8.5k.

I think the flop was Q33ss i bet 9.3k and you called. Turn was either a 10 or a J non spade. I bet a commiting amount and u quickly folded.

This sound right?
Smart arse........................


Title: Re: Coventry GUKPT hands
Post by: Rupert on May 26, 2010, 12:50:57 AM
can't remember exact flop was QxxJ tho and you def jammed the turn cos all i could think was toby fkin lewis what a g


Title: Re: Coventry GUKPT hands
Post by: MC on May 26, 2010, 01:00:46 AM
Flop comes down Q35 rainbow. Villain leads for ~8.5k.

I think the flop was Q33ss i bet 9.3k and you called. Turn was either a 10 or a J non spade. I bet a commiting amount and u quickly folded.

This sound right?

lol, I didn't think the board was paired or of suit tbh, but you could be right. As aforementioned, by skills of observance aren't all that great!Turn was def a red Jack, and you def said "I'm all-in" on the turn...


Title: Re: Coventry GUKPT hands
Post by: AlexMartin on May 26, 2010, 05:12:36 AM
AQS vs a lewis squeeze when we have 1/2 average chips. dont slowroll the poor guy imo.

Alex against an MC open (James is tightish) and a call what are you squeezing for over 30bbs?

meh, looks like we pickup over 20% of our stacksize uncalled and even though hes tight hes gonna be pretty wide from co w antes. Pretty certain u can shove a very wide range here profitably.


Title: Re: Coventry GUKPT hands
Post by: NigDawG on May 26, 2010, 11:03:20 PM
i might high 5 the dealer before i snap toby off with the AQss

also, 4bet jam the 77 vs "good young"


Title: Re: Coventry GUKPT hands
Post by: 810ofclubs on May 27, 2010, 05:45:26 PM
i might high 5 the dealer before i snap toby off with the AQss

also, 4bet jam the 77 vs "good young"


loving good young btw  ;)


Title: Re: Coventry GUKPT hands
Post by: Skgv on May 28, 2010, 02:24:56 PM
i might high 5 the dealer before i snap toby off with the AQss

also, 4bet jam the 77 vs "good young"


loving good young btw  ;)
Gay


Title: Re: Coventry GUKPT hands
Post by: 810ofclubs on May 28, 2010, 02:57:51 PM
i might high 5 the dealer before i snap toby off with the AQss

also, 4bet jam the 77 vs "good young"


loving good young btw  ;)
Gay

pipe down chara :)


Title: Re: Coventry GUKPT hands
Post by: Skgv on May 29, 2010, 10:57:06 AM
i might high 5 the dealer before i snap toby off with the AQss

also, 4bet jam the 77 vs "good young"

Hehe

loving good young btw  ;)
Gay

pipe down chara :)